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[quote="LUPISCUS"]if some ppl are gona farm all the decent rare stuff.. Still think we shud have some kind of mintons to collect on all maps...rare...but collect enuf and trade in for some of this hard to get stuff... more collectibles while general hunting would spice things up a bit[/quote]

[quote="MANCHU"]Jac you need to let it go constantly harping on about china. If you’re that bothered make a char to log at each boss and compete with them. You’re like a broken record! If china are still selling then find proof and submit it to Isylver and let him deal with it and for the love of god stop posting your drivel![/quote]

[quote="PROWLER"]Errrrr, no? I have competed with them – they bring 3 characters and prevent me from attacking (GDG). There is stuff in game that “you” and “me” could never hope to attain by our own industry or by legitimate trade – because China camp it and sell it for cash. There are many more examples of bosses being camped by China for sale for cash such as; Berserk Demented Warthog Which drops a “soul” required for rather exceptionally nice stuff available from Onzu. Such items exist in game with ridiculous upgrades (how many broke while attempts were made?) and can only have been “bought” from China because no one else has the opportunity to collect the “souls” required. Those same such items can only be bought for cash from China. Some of us want to have a chance at obtaining the “souls” to achieve those rewards. It’s the same with the other bosses that drop souls – farmed for cash for Onzo’s accessories. Proof? That old record? You know they had a char banned already for selling? You know they admitted selling on this forum? You know people who were "buyers" have been banned? Have you ever seen China offer anything for trade on the forum? Have you ever seen China offer anything for trade in a shout? Have you ever seen China do a trade in town? (Expect offer barr for failers) This isn’t HM Justice court of the United Kingdom, you don’t need exemplary proof. In any event, what possible reason do you have to defend China’s actions and refuse to consider improvements offered by other players? Any game that enables/allows one person (China is one person) to dominate a top end aspect clearly disadvantages the main stream player base. [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]i vote... mintons.. collectible.... to trade in for these elusive items!![/quote]

[quote="FRINGE"]I made a suggestion to fin ages ago about having every player required todo the boxes to gain an entry ticket to the dungeon, that way no1 could just sit at the entrance and go in.[/quote]

[quote="XAVIER"]can someone explain to me why they cant do the same as china do? Im confused are they doing something that we cant?... Regarding gdg in D4? They do the boxes so u can enter. What stops u going to the entrance and doing the boss? [/quote]

[quote="PROWLER"][quote="XAVIER"] Regarding gdg in D4? They do the boxes so u can enter. What stops u going to the entrance and doing the boss? [/quote] Do it more than once, they log 3 chars there to stop you killing it. [/quote]

[quote="SOMCHAI"]+1 To Jacs posts. These are perfectly legitimate concerns and should be heard, no surprise that the comments in this thread which are sympathetic to 'China' were made by the very players who purchased drops from them.[/quote]

[quote="FOXOSAURUS"][quote="FRINGE"]I made a suggestion to fin ages ago about having every player required todo the boxes to gain an entry ticket to the dungeon, that way no1 could just sit at the entrance and go in.[/quote] Thats one way. Or maybe - and to also deal with the toxic raro camping - Just warp everyone out of D3/D4 every T6, any character logging off in either floor is auto warped to D2 (unfortunate for people DCing or logging alts but there you are). Least it would be a race then. If people then really want the raro or grand dg every 4 hours, they have to at least run for it. Rather than logging chars there. I'd still suggest toxic raro is moved to a random box each spawn anyway though. Med gems make up what might be a days hunting 'ordinarily'. As a "easter egg".[/quote]

[quote="X"]Good discussion folks, keep it up. Changes are clearly needed here. Players should be able to complete their quests. Revisions to loot tables and quest objectives is a good place to start.[/quote]

[quote="XAVIER"][quote="XAVIER"]can someone explain to me why they cant do the same as china do? Im confused are they doing something that we cant?... Regarding gdg in D4? They do the boxes so u can enter. What stops u going to the entrance and doing the boss? [/quote] See Above^^[/quote]

[quote="XAVIER"][quote="PROWLER"][quote="XAVIER"] Regarding gdg in D4? They do the boxes so u can enter. What stops u going to the entrance and doing the boss? [/quote] Do it more than once, they log 3 chars there to stop you killing it. [/quote] Ill re-ask.... what stops you logging 3 chars to kill it? Yall hate china yet they only 1s that turn up lol. [/quote]

[quote="PROWLER"][quote="XAVIER"] Ill re-ask.... what stops you logging 3 chars to kill it? [/quote] Most of us work and earn our living from paid employment. We don't have the time to make so many characters. It is clear that the one Chinese person is logged on-line for every waking second of their day and are clearly and manifestly making a living from it. They can, therefore, make as many characters as they want since this is their "paid employment" Selling for cash is against the rules.[/quote]

[quote="POISON"][quote="FRINGE"]I made a suggestion to fin ages ago about having every player required todo the boxes to gain an entry ticket to the dungeon, that way no1 could just sit at the entrance and go in.[/quote] I'd love it cause to be honest, I haven't a clue where the boxes are to enter D4 [/quote]

[quote="XAVIER"][quote="XAVIER"]can someone explain to me why they cant do the same as china do? Im confused are they doing something that we cant?... Regarding gdg in D4? They do the boxes so u can enter. What stops u going to the entrance and doing the boss? [/quote] ^^[/quote]