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[quote="MANTICORE"]well i have recently found out that die purpose and farming minos for a bow net me nice start and recently upgraded it to help me lvl faster [/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="MELENECK"][quote="BRAINSTORM"]hsoma always get favoured dsoma on the other hand gets nout as per[/quote] Yeah man not like Dsoma recently got a whole fucking crafting system or anything. So ungrateful lol[/quote] And the drops for mats are so rare, it's hardly used. I would doubt anyone is being ungrateful for what they have, moreso they'd like that the new content was actually accessible with a reasonable time frame. I can go hunt Darian, killing them in 3 hits and get 2 torn cloth every 30mins~1 hour. Then, to guess at random a recipe, which requires probably 20 torn cloth along with 20 of 3 other mats (with similar rarity) is it any wonder nobody has found the recipes to the other craft items? Again, it's not a question of being grateful, it's a question of "Why introduce content if it requires unreasonable amounts of time for the reward". It was initially addressed, after a while of constructive criticism that without having a material restock vendor, nobody would ever make use of the crafting system unless you had limitless amounts of barr - this was rectified. The drop of other mats isn't even solvable through barr, it's whether you have limitless amounts of time to 'waste' on experimenting for a recipe that is redundant when the new bosses drop the items with much higher frequency. I can spend a couple of months farming mats to finally find a recipe for one of the new accessories, only to have, in that same period of time, about 10 of them drop from one of the new bosses.[/quote]

[quote="ARROW"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Personally I think mob drops are fine. The problem is you need to do Shiro probably 50+ times before you get anything good. Most people just don't bother after that. [/quote] Of course you think drops are fine, you got the 1 in a million odds-intense knux early on in the server and haven't had to worry about a wep since. As for Shiro your looking more at 150 times for an epic tag wep[/quote]

[quote="MONSTER"]Was thinking that too arrow lol, wasnt it literaly since week two or something hes had it, incredible luck doesnt mean drops are perfect, i know most of it is rng, but when its that low chance its also much more todo with a tad of luck. A prime example is 187 training an ALT archer to like lvl 80+ on minotaurs and still not even getting a decent epic bow ( not sure if he even had an epic bow drop ) [/quote]

[quote="KRACKEN"]same. also how can u say hsoma has it harder have you played hsoma, ive had a fuck tonne of epics an intense on there drops are very high i get full invents. on dsoma on the other hand ive not had a single weapon drop of use to me, you just have good luck jar.[/quote]

[quote="ADATH"]Look at human soma emporium and say items are rare or hard to get lol[/quote]

[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Ok. Point me to a human mob that drops top-end items (not including bosses) very frequently; there is none (LB don't drop "top-end" items). All these Epic/Intense Apus Bows/Raptor Knuckles/The Ripper etc. that you see are equivalent to our 93 skill weapons. Unlike HSoma, there seems to be a much higher number of items in circulation, which results in a larger number of "crap" weapons., and then there's the fact that our population is much smaller. I'll admit I've had some good luck, but if I was a GM I would have removed all 121 skill weapons from GLM/Conti AB etc. before the server started and made them Shiro exclusive drops (so DSoma and HSoma weapon attainment difficulty is equivalent). Devils have it easy. And they always have (that's one reason why I play Devil).[/quote]

[quote="MONSTER"]I dont see many epic/intense 93 skill weapons either, not really a good comparison, as for there drop rates too, probaly even worse than dsoma's 121 skill tier weps[/quote]

[quote="TYRONE"][quote="MONSTER"]I dont see many epic/intense 93 skill weapons either, not really a good comparison, as for there drop rates too, probaly even worse than dsoma's 121 skill tier weps[/quote] Do you see that many Intense Apus Bows or Raptor Knuckles? ... no. So it's actually a very good comparison. I applaud JARAGOONDOO for being a Devil that actually speaks sense.[/quote]

[quote="MONSTER"]For the player base difference also its not a good comparison, but whatever, jarag is the only dev that thinks this.. says it all Oh and also Lb weps drop way more often than any of our 93/121 weps, spoke to some high humans about this, and now that we have upgrades aswell its pretty daft comparison[/quote]

[quote="HOHOHO"]Add Devil's endgame weapons to Dionaea/Tir and Gorshak with a decent % on tags dropping =o simplez[/quote]

[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Umm... ok, so why are you comparing LB drops to our 121 skill drops? They are a different tier of weapons. When I hunted Conti GLM I was getting 4-5 Knuckle drops every hunt (1 hunt lasting less than an hour); Conti AB have a bit less drop rates. Honestly there's no point arguing this. iSylver has already stated his stance on weapon drops (which is similar to mine). What I would like to see: - More ways to get Invul (add to WBM, bosses etc.) - Better drops rates on rare mats (like S0rc mentioned above); I only got 120 Kharil Wood hunting there for almost 15 levels (not nearly enough to help discover any new crafting items) - Make bosses drop a minimum of a certain tag (like bosses can only drop [Rare] and higher)[/quote]

[quote="MONSTER"]Thats knuckles, no other wep can get that kinda of drop rates hunting a specific monster, even minotaurs for bows isnt that good lol, maybe you had it easy, other weps didnt, heck my staffs didnt even drop from a monster i hunted till drazil druids where introduced which certainly wont net u a staff an hour lol, which still are a unused mob as they are too bad compared to str mobs[/quote]

[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="MONSTER"]Thats knuckles, no other wep can get that kinda of drop rates hunting a specific monster, even minotaurs for bows isnt that good lol, maybe you had it easy, other weps didnt, heck my staffs didnt even drop from a monster i hunted till drazil druids where introduced which certainly wont net u a staff an hour lol, which still are a unused mob as they are too bad compared to str mobs[/quote] And yet there is an equivalent amount of intense/epic bows, swords, spears and axes in game (probably; this is just my subjective opinion as I know of several intense weapons in the game, but only 1 intense knuckle: mine). Not gonna lie though, DSoma mages do have it pretty bad, tbh.[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="MONSTER"] even minotaurs for bows isnt that good lol[/quote] Can agree there, having hunted there for bows myself in the past the drop rate isn't that good at all untagged bows barely drop.[/quote]