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[quote="MERLIN"]Cant be attacking nobody would use it over 5th so would have to be a non hit based thing, or acc or something[/quote]

[quote="FRINGE"]its a defensive constant aura if did the way i suggested so would make 5th hurt that tad more[/quote]

[quote="WHOOSH"]Well Merlin nobody is sword on Dsoma because they may do good damage one hit every 10/15 seconds if they can get anyone to stand still long enough. Other than that they miss loads, get hit just as much, take big damage and deal not a great deal with normal hits, wis is fairly low so they’re just all round a horrendous class nowadays - have been for years. 2nd sword is worse than pointless, it’s actually a slap in the face and would be better off deleted than kept in its current state tbh.[/quote]

[quote="SAL3M"][quote="WHOOSH"]Well Merlin nobody is sword on Dsoma because they may do good damage one hit every 10/15 seconds if they can get anyone to stand still long enough. Other than that they miss loads, get hit just as much, take big damage and deal not a great deal with normal hits, wis is fairly low so they’re just all round a horrendous class nowadays - have been for years. 2nd sword is worse than pointless, it’s actually a slap in the face and would be better off deleted than kept in its current state tbh.[/quote] I agree that sword is a dead class on d soma. The problem is that the game is very polarised, you’re either super tank, super dex or useless i.e there is no class balance. Sword as the ‘middle class’ naturally gets screwed the hardest. The splitting attk and df into two stats (str & con) as opposed to both being encapsulated within str just exacerbates the problem. 2nd sword does not remotely help with hunting on d soma - the only time it would be used is hunting mobs that barely hit/hurt you naked to save about 5 hp pots... maybe. 2nd sword being changed to somewhere between 5-10% accu aura may help but realistically I think there has to be a fundamental rethink of point allocation.[/quote]

[quote="WHOOSH"]I totally agree with all of that. I also still find it really frustrating how people think because of 5th sword being an OP (but not crazy OP) aura, all the sword class’ problems on Dsoma are totally disregarded with a comment such as: ‘FiFTh iS Op tHo’.[/quote]

[quote="CYA"]5th was OP on esoma but got a big nerf on the test server[/quote]

[quote="MERLIN"]That was my argument for many years, dex being one stat while splitting str/con heavily nerfed all non dex chars Nuk can nearly bridge the gap but everyone does too much damage (also stated a long time ago) so range can just feather and hit and stand a good chance of killing still without taking hits One of the reason I thought a cooldown on feathers was good Other thing would be either remove click lock from melee or add it to mages, not sure why mages have never been given it, it's a massive disadvantage when people are popping feathers all the time But I digress;p Back to original point, I would love to make a sword char but they are so poor on dsoma atm there is little point[/quote]

[quote="ESKI"]I’ve just started a swordie, what makes them so bad? ;([/quote]

[quote="SAL3M"][quote="ESKI"]I’ve just started a swordie, what makes them so bad? ;([/quote] I don’t mean this to come across snide but just read up the thread and myself and others have stated several of the problems with the class. Also i’m pretty sure 5th sword was 150% on e soma and it definitely is now so if it was nerfed it must’ve been rebuffed... unless i’m wrong about e soma.[/quote]

[quote="ALBION"][quote="SAL3M"][quote="ESKI"]I’ve just started a swordie, what makes them so bad? ;([/quote] I don’t mean this to come across snide but just read up the thread and myself and others have stated several of the problems with the class. Also i’m pretty sure 5th sword was 150% on e soma and it definitely is now so if it was nerfed it must’ve been rebuffed... unless i’m wrong about e soma.[/quote] It was 150% on esoma. I thought it was nerfed to 125% on here though. [/quote]

[quote="SAL3M"]Nah it is guaranteed 150% here too (can only speak to d soma mind). I’ve heard a couple of people claim that it is was nerfed to 125% so it may be that it was nerfed and rebuffed.[/quote]

[quote="ESKI"]Let’s have 2nd sword 5% acc then xx[/quote]

[quote="KAZOKU"]5% accucy would do nothing for sword lvling, it has enough dex for mobs I perfer fringe idea of a dmg booster, that would also help 5ths dmg As for dsoma sword, id just like the new shadow sword being 1hander, then sword can use sheild which would help with sword feeling squishy (And all new weaps being 1hander if both aint going to be added)[/quote]

[quote="HURIBOKO"]The 150 you are referring to is the skill required to learn it[/quote]

[quote="SAL3M"][quote="HURIBOKO"]The 150 you are referring to is the skill required to learn it[/quote] No it isn’t. It does 150% of your base damage (at least on d soma) which can easily be shown by hitting the dummy normally vs with 5th.[/quote]