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[quote="TYPHIN"]the only issue i see with giving unlimited mats at NPC is the barr economy and tbf what barr economy? +1 to unlimited mats Also can we just get bones in shop also? the 80-100 from drifting vendor makes this conversation look like a joke whereas the base ingredient for potions in dsoma was redefined as bone material while leo horns are still limited to pot crafting? dsoma had a conversion system prior to this whereby u spent barr plus the base pot ingredient and u had as many bones as you could convert which was essentially unlimited if not inconvenient[/quote]

[quote="RENOWN"]Completely against the idea of unlimited mats. There needs to be a limit on the materials to gain the skill. That’s like me saying I have a 2000 dura bow, at 3am I can’t get an SR, therefore can’t hunt.. so give me unlimited dura. I do however agree the quantity needs increasing [/quote]

[quote="DEVONNE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]Why are you against unlimited mats in abias foxtrck?[/quote] Why are you for it? You do know right that if this happens all cooking/potions crafting will be done around Momo/Aesol right thanks to roaming stations? You do know soon after someone just like you is going to ask for every other craft to have a roaming station to even the playing field right? You do get that once every craft has a roaming station crafting is going to be done by bot right? I mean it's already happening right now but that will flat out intensify it. Every year that passes this server gets more hollowed out thanks to changes that simply cut portions out of the game in the name of making it easier for people whose joy comes from structured end game events. The point of Soma once upon a time was the journey, now it's solely about an end game that was never that good in the first place.[/quote]

[quote="FRINGE"]remove roaming pot and cook? you still need to put the effort in to buy mats etc its 2020 not 2002[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Cooking already has unlimited mats if you make bread. Nobody is asking for roaming stations for armour, weapon, accessories crafting. Reason I’m for unlimited mats is simple, I know most players detest crafting but on hsoma crafting is a necessity if your wanting special repairs and possibly to do upgrading. By making mats unlimited would allow players to spend what little time they may have to play soma to actually enjoy there time in game and not waste it hanging around on the hope of getting a few hundred mats now and then.[/quote]

[quote="TEMEROSO"]Its not really a necessity, I have 2 people using my SR guy and he can only SR twice a soma day. If everyone had sr there would be no trades for SR.... There is many ways to get mats, I don't like the idea of endless mats as it kills a massive aspect of the game.[/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]halve the time lapse in between restock of mats would = x2 mats seems decent. Decrease bones necessary for armour and wep crafts.. ive done 30k bones for 2 epics and 5-6 rare stingers in the past... and collecting 30k bones is no mean feat. Shak weps now craftable, but with several ppl that camp the drifting vendor, his 80 or 100 are almost impossible to get... 60 min hunt at boars or trolls bags u maybe 6-12 bones per hour...similar doing whelp/mags..... when u consider u need 48 for 1 stinger attempt, many of which fail even at 200 skill, the whole bone/ craft thing and enthusiasm soon fades. Can go to the farm ofc, but bagging yerself 1k alt gems is 3 hours hard work approx. for approx. 22 stinger attempts ish,, of which 15 may succeed and maybe 1 hard or rare out of those if you're lucky. Tho, been asking for more bones for about 4 years now..so maybe time to give up. Whilst in moan - mode.. new ways to gain valour.. while the new ways are inventive, if u have the time to attend the 4 hourly spawn.. or wish to attend competing with our Asian friends and a few others. Apart from CTF, which, to those that attend have generally 'took in turn' to run a flag every 10-15 mins as we all queue for 'our turn' to return it.. how is that gona work now I wonder. Anyway.. the new methods of gaining valour seem to be good ideas as ''icing on the cake'' as top ups for a few xtra valour/scrolls. However, the main prob is... is that there is no 'cake' , as in mainstream/ normal way of playing gains you no valour. Just seems as tho the usual nega attendees are gona get more valour/scrolls and hence more nega weps from the quartermaster than they were getting before. So, it's attend nega or get no valour basically. Some may be cool with that, but being 'forced' into it doesn't seem quite the right direction to go. And further lining the pockets with xtra weps for a few, similarly, seems a bit off. ( catalogue owners rubbing their hands with glee) imo [/quote]

[quote="FOXTRCK"]Be under no illusion, theres a center piece 'cake' your referring too, Lupi, thats on its way.[/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]most cooks bake the cake, then add the icing, but not moaning..waiting in anticipation. ty fox x[/quote]

[quote="FRINGE"]all mag materials should drop from blg upwards not just bones tbh would certainly brighten up the long hunts for 1 ep etc the drop rates on the mats are terrible even at the best of times[/quote]

[quote="RENOWN"]Lupi... I think the point is the get more people involved.. [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]I see the point clearly, and it's an honourable, well-meaning and intentioned point from the gm's , but for many reasons , it's not a point that tickles my fancy. Bring on the cake please. Just icing, for the few that eat it, will make them even fatter.[/quote]

[quote="THE_D0N"]I agree to a point. With most of this Think a increase would help as human side u not ally share 6k between 3-4 ppl. For access craft I think .... If you put orc Infront and make copper a tad more expensive. Would encourage normal crafter's to buy the orc instead of going for the copper restricting the access crafters. Or make things farmable in the farm or make a larger 1 with other mobs to drop. Before my 200 access I went to the farm between restocks and between the 5-10 soma time I got 2k. That's not even 2 runs in 50 minutes of mob killin with 2 people 1 kill 1 collect.[/quote]

[quote="HOGAN"]I offer up SR for free and most of the time no one even wants it. I don't see any negative to unlimited mats or at least x3 each restock? It doesn't hurt anything. I also think make bones (tiger claws) available from an abias npc restock. [/quote]

[quote="CAPRICORN"][quote="DEVONNE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]Why are you against unlimited mats in abias foxtrck?[/quote] Why are you for it? You do know right that if this happens all cooking/potions crafting will be done around Momo/Aesol right thanks to roaming stations? You do know soon after someone just like you is going to ask for every other craft to have a roaming station to even the playing field right? You do get that once every craft has a roaming station crafting is going to be done by bot right? I mean it's already happening right now but that will flat out intensify it. Every year that passes this server gets more hollowed out thanks to changes that simply cut portions out of the game in the name of making it easier for people whose joy comes from structured end game events. The point of Soma once upon a time was the journey, now it's solely about an end game that was never that good in the first place.[/quote] All that needs to be said, close the thread. "Every year that passes this server gets more hollowed out thanks to changes that simply cut portions out of the game in the name of making it easier for people whose joy comes from structured end game events." [/quote]