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Oh I trade all my weaps with papa yeah, apart from swords and staffs. I sell my swords to Maly and my staffs generally go to whoever needs them.

Regardless of who I trade with that doesn’t affect you directly. I want to trade Nega weaps for the ones I need like spear, so if papa is one of the people who has spears to sell ofc I’ll trade with him.

You have a mage Lupi, why not come to Nega and try get the kill? We all know what time it spawns and where it is, I’m not the highest str char who attends and I certainly don’t have the fastest weap but I attend as often as I can on the 5pm and 9pm slot which does me fine.

think ur missing my point.. i don't want to attend nega several times a day every 4 hours competing with ppl with already op gear .. gl to all that do it and the same ppl that get most of the kills.. but it doesn't tick any boxes for me, being forced to do 1 boss to further gear advancement. That's the way its been for a while.
Dios mentioned hordes and new ways of gaining valour.. so maybe things will change.
Made this point several times now.. sorry for repetition.
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But there is no need to have a go at players like myself who aren’t doing anything wrong.

If you wanted an -M weap enough you’d attend nega.

not having a go at any1....how many times does it need saying ..its the way things are ..being forced to do nega to improve gear im talking about.. competing with ppl with +6 m tag spears and wotever else.... and quite often, mr paypal players.
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dont turn up. dont get drop. how can u not get that. ive had kill on this 190 str char. if u attend often enough you will get the drop at some point.

i do nega runs almost every time. im 76 away from my 2nd epic wep.

enjoy the fun Fringe. I must be missing it all.
Thought this before, but now im sure...someone tries to make a sensible point, and u get dikheads trying to argue and close the point down talking nonsense or pretending not to understand. Seriously... no wonder not many comment on forums

its a grind, aye.

no wonder not many comment on forums

shh

I think the point lupi is trying to get at is, all items should be dropped from mobs that can be hunted 24/7 (farming mobs) and fall under the random drop classification like mystical blue gem etc.

Bosses should always drop the best items and best way to gain these top items but they should also be dropped by the rest of the mobs too. Not everyone can make it for bosses due to there timer there on. There should always be 2 ways to acquire specific drop items.

All Nega weaps are available raven, it’s only the -M which aren’t.



But with the BMG quest available and now 100% +2 success rate everyone can make any weapons they want -M.

If people choose not to go to bosses then this is on them, not the system. I think Nega should still be the only way to obtain an -M weap without the BMG method, as that’s the reward for going. But these are still a rare drop!

Regarding Nega tier weapons, you can get them from nega, from elder mags and from some quests, which gives you a few ways gaining them.

I agree the M-tags should be solely from the top boss, but what I was referring to was the nega tear etc it’s a powerful addition to the list of items that can enhance your character greatly. This could do with looking into for another way for your casual player to gain them, quests, valour, pos etc could be used to obtain it?

Oh yeah, sorry I didn’t realise you meant tears.

Yeah it would be nice to have a new way to obtain them, I agree.

This is nonsense...
It is well balanced, all mages have killed it with a Nega stave, most melee chars kill it with 2nd and 3rd tier weapons. I have no complaints about tongskie killing Nega with a +7 SB. So neither should anyone else.
Plenty of melee chars have killed Nega, its fine how it is.

just make it 100% hit for everyone and max damage of 10

Deamond, what you paying me?