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PATHOLOGIST	Could you do a small tweak with the hwan brothers. Just make them have a 100% guarantee that they drop something. I don't mind if its an untag item from their drop file, or maybe even a nice wad of 20k barr. But after being almost killed in 1 hit by Medim, Every. Single. Hit. and getting nothing at all after 600 +100s is a bit dire. I understand they spawn often, and they CAN drop something of use, but at least to drop something after killing it wouldn't hurt :) Maybe this is a stretch too far, but would you consider lowering some of the 520int brothers dmg a bit? They nearly 1 hit anyone no matter how much int (md) you have. PM Reply Quote [quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Could you do a small tweak with the hwan brothers. Just make them have a 100% guarantee that they drop something. I don't mind if its an untag item from their drop file, or maybe even a nice wad of 20k barr. But after being almost killed in 1 hit by Medim, Every. Single. Hit. and getting nothing at all after 600 +100s is a bit dire. I understand they spawn often, and they CAN drop something of use, but at least to drop something after killing it wouldn't hurt :) Maybe this is a stretch too far, but would you consider lowering some of the 520int brothers dmg a bit? They nearly 1 hit anyone no matter how much int (md) you have.[/quote]	#1 2014/06/27 03:23:05
GRAVIJA	I brought this up ages ago. And the fact that every archer just cliffs them, I personally think they should spawn INSIDE the hwan castle. PM Reply Quote [quote="GRAVIJA"]I brought this up ages ago. And the fact that every archer just cliffs them, I personally think they should spawn INSIDE the hwan castle.[/quote]	#2 2014/06/27 05:52:34
HURRICANE	"PATHOLOGIST"Could you do a small tweak with the hwan brothers. Just make them have a 100% guarantee that they drop something. I don't mind if its an untag item from their drop file, or maybe even a nice wad of 20k barr. But after being almost killed in 1 hit by Medim, Every. Single. Hit. and getting nothing at all after 600 +100s is a bit dire. I understand they spawn often, and they CAN drop something of use, but at least to drop something after killing it wouldn't hurt :) Maybe this is a stretch too far, but would you consider lowering some of the 520int brothers dmg a bit? They nearly 1 hit anyone no matter how much int (md) you have. In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something everytime.. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesnt PM Reply Quote [quote="HURRICANE"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Could you do a small tweak with the hwan brothers. Just make them have a 100% guarantee that they drop something. I don't mind if its an untag item from their drop file, or maybe even a nice wad of 20k barr. But after being almost killed in 1 hit by Medim, Every. Single. Hit. and getting nothing at all after 600 +100s is a bit dire. I understand they spawn often, and they CAN drop something of use, but at least to drop something after killing it wouldn't hurt :) Maybe this is a stretch too far, but would you consider lowering some of the 520int brothers dmg a bit? They nearly 1 hit anyone no matter how much int (md) you have.[/quote] In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something everytime.. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesnt [/quote]	#3 2014/06/27 06:35:57
S0RCERER	"HURRICANE"In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something everytime.. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesnt Don't be comparing apples to pears. The (high-int) Hwan brothers can 2 hit every single person ingame and unfortunately more often than not will drop absolutely nothing or enough barr to buy 1 or 2 potions. This isn't the case for archers - heck a level 50 can cliff it for about 15minutes, though even they would make a loss when they come to repair their bow (lol). P.S. Huss, stop wasting barr on them! PM Reply Quote [quote="S0RCERER"][quote="HURRICANE"]In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something everytime.. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesnt[/quote] Don't be comparing apples to pears. The (high-int) Hwan brothers can 2 hit every single person ingame and unfortunately more often than not will drop absolutely nothing or enough barr to buy 1 or 2 potions. This isn't the case for archers - heck a level 50 can cliff it for about 15minutes, though even they would make a loss when they come to repair their bow (lol). P.S. Huss, stop wasting barr on them![/quote]	#4 2014/06/27 08:52:57
GHOSTLORD	"S0RCERER" "HURRICANE"In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something everytime.. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesnt Don't be comparing apples to pears. The (high-int) Hwan brothers can 2 hit every single person ingame and unfortunately more often than not will drop absolutely nothing or enough barr to buy 1 or 2 potions. This isn't the case for archers - heck a level 50 can cliff it for about 15minutes, though even they would make a loss when they come to repair their bow (lol). P.S. Huss, stop wasting barr on them! In that case I'd like to point out that he could change shironim to Gorshak. Anyway my stance on these bosses: They could do with a change in drops/rates since they are still on ESoma stuff. However other bosses like Gorshak and Shironim have a higher priority. Putting them in the hwan castle would be fun but if all 6/7 of them spawn it'd be a bit crowded, no? PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="S0RCERER"][quote="HURRICANE"]In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something everytime.. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesnt[/quote] Don't be comparing apples to pears. The (high-int) Hwan brothers can 2 hit every single person ingame and unfortunately more often than not will drop absolutely nothing or enough barr to buy 1 or 2 potions. This isn't the case for archers - heck a level 50 can cliff it for about 15minutes, though even they would make a loss when they come to repair their bow (lol). P.S. Huss, stop wasting barr on them![/quote] In that case I'd like to point out that he could change shironim to Gorshak. Anyway my stance on these bosses: They could do with a change in drops/rates since they are still on ESoma stuff. However other bosses like Gorshak and Shironim have a higher priority. Putting them in the hwan castle would be fun but if all 6/7 of them spawn it'd be a bit crowded, no?[/quote]	#5 2014/06/27 09:44:32
AZAZYEL	Higher priority in which way? Due changes? Or? Thanks PM Reply Quote [quote="AZAZYEL"]Higher priority in which way? Due changes? Or? Thanks[/quote]	#6 2014/06/27 10:23:20
HURRICANE	"GHOSTLORD" "S0RCERER" "HURRICANE"In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something everytime.. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesnt Don't be comparing apples to pears. The (high-int) Hwan brothers can 2 hit every single person ingame and unfortunately more often than not will drop absolutely nothing or enough barr to buy 1 or 2 potions. This isn't the case for archers - heck a level 50 can cliff it for about 15minutes, though even they would make a loss when they come to repair their bow (lol). P.S. Huss, stop wasting barr on them! In that case I'd like to point out that he could change shironim to Gorshak. Anyway my stance on these bosses: They could do with a change in drops/rates since they are still on ESoma stuff. However other bosses like Gorshak and Shironim have a higher priority. Putting them in the hwan castle would be fun but if all 6/7 of them spawn it'd be a bit crowded, no? Shironim drops are just fine as they are :) PM Reply Quote [quote="HURRICANE"][quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="S0RCERER"][quote="HURRICANE"]In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something everytime.. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesnt[/quote] Don't be comparing apples to pears. The (high-int) Hwan brothers can 2 hit every single person ingame and unfortunately more often than not will drop absolutely nothing or enough barr to buy 1 or 2 potions. This isn't the case for archers - heck a level 50 can cliff it for about 15minutes, though even they would make a loss when they come to repair their bow (lol). P.S. Huss, stop wasting barr on them![/quote] In that case I'd like to point out that he could change shironim to Gorshak. Anyway my stance on these bosses: They could do with a change in drops/rates since they are still on ESoma stuff. However other bosses like Gorshak and Shironim have a higher priority. Putting them in the hwan castle would be fun but if all 6/7 of them spawn it'd be a bit crowded, no?[/quote] Shironim drops are just fine as they are :) [/quote]	#7 2014/06/27 10:24:17
GHOSTLORD	"AZAZYEL"Higher priority in which way? Due changes? Or? Thanks Higher priority as in it should be done before the other. o.o Hwan brothers drop erm, stuff. Gorshak & friends drops good stuff. :P And yeh Shiro is a bad example his drops are decent if you forget the helms (which don't have a negative impact on other drop rates). PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="AZAZYEL"]Higher priority in which way? Due changes? Or? Thanks[/quote] Higher priority as in it should be done before the other. o.o Hwan brothers drop erm, stuff. Gorshak & friends drops good stuff. :P And yeh Shiro is a bad example his drops are decent if you forget the helms (which don't have a negative impact on other drop rates).[/quote]	#8 2014/06/27 10:28:28
S0RCERER	"GHOSTLORD"In that case I'd like to point out that he could change shironim to Gorshak. Anyway my stance on these bosses: They could do with a change in drops/rates since they are still on ESoma stuff. However other bosses like Gorshak and Shironim have a higher priority. Putting them in the hwan castle would be fun but if all 6/7 of them spawn it'd be a bit crowded, no? Could change shironim to Gorshak if you want, would just mean nobody would kill it anymore. No idea why there's always resistance to make changes to things that are so obviously in need of change. (especially when such changes are SO EASY and QUICK to implement). PM Reply Quote [quote="S0RCERER"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]In that case I'd like to point out that he could change shironim to Gorshak. Anyway my stance on these bosses: They could do with a change in drops/rates since they are still on ESoma stuff. However other bosses like Gorshak and Shironim have a higher priority. Putting them in the hwan castle would be fun but if all 6/7 of them spawn it'd be a bit crowded, no?[/quote] Could change shironim to Gorshak if you want, would just mean nobody would kill it anymore. No idea why there's always resistance to make changes to things that are so obviously in need of change. (especially when such changes are SO EASY and QUICK to implement).[/quote]	#9 2014/06/27 10:28:51
GHOSTLORD	"S0RCERER" "GHOSTLORD"In that case I'd like to point out that he could change shironim to Gorshak. Anyway my stance on these bosses: They could do with a change in drops/rates since they are still on ESoma stuff. However other bosses like Gorshak and Shironim have a higher priority. Putting them in the hwan castle would be fun but if all 6/7 of them spawn it'd be a bit crowded, no? Could change shironim to Gorshak if you want, would just mean nobody would kill it anymore. No idea why there's always resistance to make changes to things that are so obviously in need of change. (especially when such changes are SO EASY and QUICK to implement). No no, we're not changing gorshak to be shiro or any other way around. Forgive my unclarity but there's things being build to upgrade Gorshak (ie he needs to change targets more often). There's some more stuff but really I don't want to get into too much detail - mostly because I don't have them. PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="S0RCERER"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]In that case I'd like to point out that he could change shironim to Gorshak. Anyway my stance on these bosses: They could do with a change in drops/rates since they are still on ESoma stuff. However other bosses like Gorshak and Shironim have a higher priority. Putting them in the hwan castle would be fun but if all 6/7 of them spawn it'd be a bit crowded, no?[/quote] Could change shironim to Gorshak if you want, would just mean nobody would kill it anymore. No idea why there's always resistance to make changes to things that are so obviously in need of change. (especially when such changes are SO EASY and QUICK to implement).[/quote] No no, we're not changing gorshak to be shiro or any other way around. Forgive my unclarity but there's things being build to upgrade Gorshak (ie he needs to change targets more often). There's some more stuff but really I don't want to get into too much detail - mostly because I don't have them.[/quote]	#10 2014/06/27 10:31:13
PATHOLOGIST	"HURRICANE"In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something every time. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesn't All bosses should reward you for killing them, none should leave you with no loot. I've not been to a gorshak fight, but I'm sure even he doesn't hit for 600dmg per hit. "S0RCERER"P.S. Huss, stop wasting barr on them! Used a bit more because of resi scrolls :/ I think nearly 300k Oh, you can't cliff them any more either. How much dmg per hit do all of the new bosses do? I'm sure the hwan brothers are the hardest hitting thing in this game. The very least they could do is drop something :/ PM Reply Quote [quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="HURRICANE"]In that case he will have to change shironim to drop something every time. Cant see it happening tbh. Sometimes it drops sometimes it doesn't [/quote] All bosses should reward you for killing them, none should leave you with no loot. I've not been to a gorshak fight, but I'm sure even he doesn't hit for [b]600dmg per hit. [/b] [quote="S0RCERER"]P.S. Huss, stop wasting barr on them![/quote] Used a bit more because of resi scrolls :/ I think nearly 300k Oh, you can't cliff them any more either. How much dmg per hit do all of the new bosses do? I'm sure the hwan brothers are the hardest hitting thing in this game. The very least they could do is drop something :/[/quote]	#11 2014/06/27 11:27:53
AZAZYEL	"S0RCERER" No idea why there's always resistance to make changes to things that are so obviously in need of change. (especially when such changes are SO EASY and QUICK to implement). +1 The changes that are required are so small that would make a huge difference take an age to get done, if they get done at all.. Things are broken for so long before they are even looked at "Its a free server be greatful" - Yeah we are greatful, whether thats telling a GM or making a donation it doesn't matter. As s0rc said, the changes are so easy and quick its a shame it takes so much venting positive or negative for someone to take notice. - often it turns into negative venting because of frustration. PM Reply Quote [quote="AZAZYEL"][quote="S0RCERER"] No idea why there's always resistance to make changes to things that are so obviously in need of change. (especially when such changes are SO EASY and QUICK to implement).[/quote] +1 The changes that are required are so small that would make a huge difference take an age to get done, if they get done at all.. Things are broken for so long before they are even looked at "Its a free server be greatful" - Yeah we are greatful, whether thats telling a GM or making a donation it doesn't matter. As s0rc said, the changes are so easy and quick its a shame it takes so much venting positive or negative for someone to take notice. - often it turns into negative venting because of frustration.[/quote]	#12 2014/06/27 11:42:29
YOSHIMITSU	"AZAZYEL" "S0RCERER" No idea why there's always resistance to make changes to things that are so obviously in need of change. (especially when such changes are SO EASY and QUICK to implement). +1 The changes that are required are so small that would make a huge difference take an age to get done, if they get done at all.. Things are broken for so long before they are even looked at "Its a free server be greatful" - Yeah we are greatful, whether thats telling a GM or making a donation it doesn't matter. As s0rc said, the changes are so easy and quick its a shame it takes so much venting positive or negative for someone to take notice. - often it turns into negative venting because of frustration. +2, I myself and I know a lot of other people would rather see 5 small content updates rather than 1 bigger one PM Reply Quote [quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="AZAZYEL"][quote="S0RCERER"] No idea why there's always resistance to make changes to things that are so obviously in need of change. (especially when such changes are SO EASY and QUICK to implement).[/quote] +1 The changes that are required are so small that would make a huge difference take an age to get done, if they get done at all.. Things are broken for so long before they are even looked at "Its a free server be greatful" - Yeah we are greatful, whether thats telling a GM or making a donation it doesn't matter. As s0rc said, the changes are so easy and quick its a shame it takes so much venting positive or negative for someone to take notice. - often it turns into negative venting because of frustration.[/quote] +2, I myself and I know a lot of other people would rather see 5 small content updates rather than 1 bigger one[/quote]	#13 2014/06/27 11:48:50
ISYLVER [Staff]	Wrong forum. Regardless, I've increased the drop rate by 250% in the next reboot. Let's see how you get on with that. Also barr drop range increased too. PM Reply Quote [quote="ISYLVER"]Wrong forum. Regardless, I've increased the drop rate by 250% in the next reboot. Let's see how you get on with that. Also barr drop range increased too.[/quote]	#14 2014/06/29 10:21:11
EVIL_JR	thankyou!! PM Reply Quote [quote="EVIL_JR"]thankyou!![/quote]	#15 2014/06/29 20:32:00

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