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GEMSTOREZ |
Quick question aimed at many a guilty person:
Is it really pvp though if the other person just dies to carry on, what do you actually get out of it other than annoying other people to the point they dont want to log in (as proven by this thread) |
#31 2020/05/05 11:34:05 |
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FREQUENCY |
Ive always seen it as if the person doesnt fight back its not pvp and boring, if its vk/val or allies i continue to kill as its what was done to me by those 2 guilds.
I leave all players of neutral/non pvp guilds. I like a good fight however tongs method of killing anyone levelling because k/d is life (his words) is detremental to the game.
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[quote="FREQUENCY"]Ive always seen it as if the person doesnt fight back its not pvp and boring, if its vk/val or allies i continue to kill as its what was done to me by those 2 guilds.
I leave all players of neutral/non pvp guilds. I like a good fight however tongs method of killing anyone levelling because k/d is life (his words) is detremental to the game.[/quote]
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#32 2020/05/05 13:10:39 |
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DAENAERYS |
"FREQUENCY"Ive always seen it as if the person doesnt fight back its not pvp and boring, if its vk/val or allies i continue to kill as its what was done to me by those 2 guilds. +1 unless specific targets, pointless killing noobs ...let the competition grow
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[quote="DAENAERYS"][quote="FREQUENCY"]Ive always seen it as if the person doesnt fight back its not pvp and boring, if its vk/val or allies i continue to kill as its what was done to me by those 2 guilds.
I leave all players of neutral/non pvp guilds. I like a good fight however tongs method of killing anyone levelling because k/d is life (his words) is detremental to the game.[/quote]
+1 unless specific targets, pointless killing noobs ...let the competition grow[/quote]
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#33 2020/05/05 14:36:29 |
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MERLIN |
It doesn't grow though does it, as soon as a guild starts rising they get stomped and forced into one of the '2 sides'
Last time a remember a 3 way gvw was outlawz/dl/vk before they merged Cant even think of last time dsoma had more than 2 sides |
#34 2020/05/05 15:24:23 |
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HENDRIX |
"MERLIN"It doesn't grow though does it, as soon as a guild starts rising they get stomped and forced into one of the '2 sides' This is exactly my issue with soma atm... sick and tired of this 2 horse race being forced to choose a side or get harassed. A third big guild with no allegiance to either side would help make soma thrive again. *Edit* Bring back test server No_mercy breaking away from the VK alliance, have korea and china go thier own separate way, have FT and KL break away from DL and have an all out war at gvw. Even if it's just for gvw and not pk would make gvw actually worth turning up too.
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[quote="HENDRIX"][quote="MERLIN"]It doesn't grow though does it, as soon as a guild starts rising they get stomped and forced into one of the '2 sides'
Last time a remember a 3 way gvw was outlawz/dl/vk before they merged
Cant even think of last time dsoma had more than 2 sides [/quote]
This is exactly my issue with soma atm... sick and tired of this 2 horse race being forced to choose a side or get harassed. A third big guild with no allegiance to either side would help make soma thrive again.
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Bring back test server No_mercy breaking away from the VK alliance, have korea and china go thier own separate way, have FT and KL break away from DL and have an all out war at gvw. Even if it's just for gvw and not pk would make gvw actually worth turning up too.[/quote]
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#35 2020/05/05 15:30:19 |
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RAVENSOUL |
To get a third side in the mix requires stubbornness and a tight knit group....
You would also need to be prepared to be threatened off the server, hounded off the server and constantly being accused of being on one of the other 2 big sides, a no win situation it would seem.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]To get a third side in the mix requires stubbornness and a tight knit group....
You would also need to be prepared to be threatened off the server, hounded off the server and constantly being accused of being on one of the other 2 big sides, a no win situation it would seem. [/quote]
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#36 2020/05/05 16:43:05 |
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OPENTHEDOOR |
3 sides would never work, never has and never will.
At some stage during the fight you need to pick a target and that naturally will upset a group of players. If a and b stone and kill players from c at the same time ect Same with guild village the guild tanking always get upset if two other guilds regardless of anything else try and attack them. Your also asking some people to bury a 5 year plus rivalry.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]3 sides would never work, never has and never will.
At some stage during the fight you need to pick a target and that naturally will upset a group of players. If a and b stone and kill players from c at the same time ect
Same with guild village the guild tanking always get upset if two other guilds regardless of anything else try and attack them.
Your also asking some people to bury a 5 year plus rivalry.[/quote]
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#37 2020/05/05 16:50:42 |
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WINIFRED |
I am also considering leaving even after healing to 100 int, high level character who cannot pk players their own level or players with gear are just passing +5-+8 items onto their noobs to pk lower levels without any gear, so it isn't fun or fair.
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#38 2020/05/05 17:05:15 |
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HENDRIX |
"WINIFRED"I am also considering leaving even after healing to 100 int, high level character who cannot pk players their own level or players with gear are just passing +5-+8 items onto their noobs to pk lower levels without any gear, so it isn't fun or fair. There is always gonna be that complete tool that genuinely ruins it for others however that's why the imunity was introduced. Just take 2 deaths and carry on hunting
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[quote="HENDRIX"][quote="WINIFRED"]I am also considering leaving even after healing to 100 int, high level character who cannot pk players their own level or players with gear are just passing +5-+8 items onto their noobs to pk lower levels without any gear, so it isn't fun or fair.[/quote]
There is always gonna be that complete tool that genuinely ruins it for others however that's why the imunity was introduced. Just take 2 deaths and carry on hunting[/quote]
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#39 2020/05/05 17:14:59 |
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COOLHAND |
I'm DLs lowest level character, and able to be pked by capped chars. So over half the server tries to kill me on a regular basis.
PKing has always been a big part of the game, and it has been nerfed over the years so that now literally nothing happens when you die. If you carry Res scrolls - You don't lose stats, drops items, lose experience or Barr. Then there's all the immunity rules.... This is actually just an ego problem, you feel embarrassed that you died or that it's unfair. Nothing can fix that apart from changing your state of mind to stop caring about getting killed...because it doesn't matter, it's just a game. I suffer from the same ego problems, possibly even worse because I keep my KD visible on the armoury out of respect for the way that it's meant to be. I hate dying MORE THAN ANYONE, so I just tp. Change your ego, or the way you play. DON'T CHANGE THE GAME
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[quote="COOLHAND"]I'm DLs lowest level character, and able to be pked by capped chars. So over half the server tries to kill me on a regular basis.
PKing has always been a big part of the game, and it has been nerfed over the years so that now literally nothing happens when you die.
If you carry Res scrolls - You don't lose stats, drops items, lose experience or Barr.
Then there's all the immunity rules....
This is actually just an ego problem, you feel embarrassed that you died or that it's unfair. Nothing can fix that apart from changing your state of mind to stop caring about getting killed...because it doesn't matter, it's just a game.
I suffer from the same ego problems, possibly even worse because I keep my KD visible on the armoury out of respect for the way that it's meant to be.
I hate dying MORE THAN ANYONE, so I just tp.
Change your ego, or the way you play.
DON'T CHANGE THE GAME[/quote]
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#40 2020/05/06 06:06:03 |
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NIXHER |
"COOLHAND"I'm DLs lowest level character, and able to be pked by capped chars. So over half the server tries to kill me on a regular basis. It is an ego problem, but not for the one getting pk'd. Killing lower levels is an ego boost for some people because the game is all they have, they measure themselves on the KD they have on soma. If they need to kill someone 20 levels below them on a 20 year old game and screech about it in world shout and pm the player, then let them, they need it to feel good, they need it to feel big. Remember not everyone has a nice life like us when they log off of soma, some people face poverty, illness, depression, weakness or other troubles. Die twice, smile and laugh, then carry on, if you're remotely high lvl enough then have a pop back, have a laugh, its a PVP game at the end of the day, if you moan about PVP you've chosen the wrong game.
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[quote="NIXHER"][quote="COOLHAND"]I'm DLs lowest level character, and able to be pked by capped chars. So over half the server tries to kill me on a regular basis.
PKing has always been a big part of the game, and it has been nerfed over the years so that now literally nothing happens when you die.
If you carry Res scrolls - You don't lose stats, drops items, lose experience or Barr.
Then there's all the immunity rules....
This is actually just an ego problem, you feel embarrassed that you died or that it's unfair. Nothing can fix that apart from changing your state of mind to stop caring about getting killed...because it doesn't matter, it's just a game.
I suffer from the same ego problems, possibly even worse because I keep my KD visible on the armoury out of respect for the way that it's meant to be.
I hate dying MORE THAN ANYONE, so I just tp.
Change your ego, or the way you play.
DON'T CHANGE THE GAME[/quote]
It is an ego problem, but not for the one getting pk'd.
Killing lower levels is an ego boost for some people because the game is all they have, they measure themselves on the KD they have on soma. If they need to kill someone 20 levels below them on a 20 year old game and screech about it in world shout and pm the player, then let them, they need it to feel good, they need it to feel big.
Remember not everyone has a nice life like us when they log off of soma, some people face poverty, illness, depression, weakness or other troubles.
Die twice, smile and laugh, then carry on, if you're remotely high lvl enough then have a pop back, have a laugh, its a PVP game at the end of the day, if you moan about PVP you've chosen the wrong game.[/quote]
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#41 2020/05/06 08:18:00 |
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"RAMZO""OPENTHEDOOR"The only immunity bug I know for sure about is if you attend GVW and attack players it counts as hitting a player so you don’t get 1 hour immunity and that’s on the list and with Fin. think another 'bug' is when you are healing yourself when getting attacked you activate pk mode and dont get immunity. Can debate if this is intentional or not ... Back on topic ... i couldnt care less if someone comes for 2 pks when i wanna hunt in peace. I even go in peace mode to let myself get killed to carry on hunting while watching tele. Real pvp happens in group versus group
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[quote="AGUILAR"][quote="RAMZO"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]The only immunity bug I know for sure about is if you attend GVW and attack players it counts as hitting a player so you don’t get 1 hour immunity and that’s on the list and with Fin.
The same applies if you are messing around hitting guild mates in town/arena and duels. . [/quote]
Yup. If you hit a player (regardless if it's a duel, or arena, or GVW or WotW) then you won't get immunity for an hour.
It's a bug that most of us have discovered the hard way :P[/quote]
think another 'bug' is when you are healing yourself when getting attacked you activate pk mode and dont get immunity. Can debate if this is intentional or not ...
Back on topic ... i couldnt care less if someone comes for 2 pks when i wanna hunt in peace. I even go in peace mode to let myself get killed to carry on hunting while watching tele.
Real pvp happens in group versus group
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#42 2020/05/06 08:27:01 |
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SOMCHAI |
I also just go onto peace mode when im being pk'd to display no resistance. I often wonder how players such as Tongskie/ Nevergiveup get satisfaction from this killing of lower leveled players, not once but over and over.
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#43 2020/05/06 12:16:11 |
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NIXHER |
"SOMCHAI"I also just go onto peace mode when im being pk'd to display no resistance. I often wonder how players such as Tongskie get satisfaction from this killing of lower leveled players, not once but over and over. Loads, but remember, they need it more than you need 50k, laugh and move on =]
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[quote="NIXHER"][quote="SOMCHAI"]I also just go onto peace mode when im being pk'd to display no resistance. I often wonder how players such as Tongskie get satisfaction from this killing of lower leveled players, not once but over and over.[/quote]
Loads, but remember, they need it more than you need 50k, laugh and move on =][/quote]
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#44 2020/05/06 12:17:10 |
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TIBI |
"SOMCHAI"I also just go onto peace mode when im being pk'd to display no resistance. I often wonder how players such as Tongskie/ Nevergiveup get satisfaction from this killing of lower leveled players, not once but over and over. It's because people want to have the best kill death rates ingame - knowing full well they can never beat some of the original players from back in 2013/14/15 in terms of pvp skill and such....
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[quote="TIBI"][quote="SOMCHAI"]I also just go onto peace mode when im being pk'd to display no resistance. I often wonder how players such as Tongskie/ Nevergiveup get satisfaction from this killing of lower leveled players, not once but over and over.[/quote]
It's because people want to have the best kill death rates ingame - knowing full well they can never beat some of the original players from back in 2013/14/15 in terms of pvp skill and such.... [/quote]
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#45 2020/05/06 12:39:46 |
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