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Deamond have you forgot about the % system at wotw?
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[quote="LINKDX"]Deamond have you forgot about the % system at wotw?[/quote]
"SOMCHAI"Are Dsoma mages not the most challenging to level? genuine question.


the dsoma mage leveling route is a weird one its the slowest class to lvl if you go the normal route this route is broken and when i mean broken not working as it should.
The way they cap is by locking their int at 115 and use a tank so they can aoe enslaved beasts till cap.

Also on the dev archer video u left out the part the % system/build/and md gear prob epic/intense part with oes
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[quote="SYONIDE"][quote="SOMCHAI"]Are Dsoma mages not the most challenging to level? genuine question.[/quote] the dsoma mage leveling route is a weird one its the slowest class to lvl if you go the normal route this route is broken and when i mean broken not working as it should. The way they cap is by locking their int at 115 and use a tank so they can aoe enslaved beasts till cap. Also on the dev archer video u left out the part the % system/build/and md gear prob epic/intense part with oes[/quote]
deamond talking like he tanked him for an hour

zombie pants would have helped
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[quote="JPOT"]deamond talking like he tanked him for an hour zombie pants would have helped[/quote]
The only true way to see how unbalanced or balanced for RvR is for 100% each race, as it stands this % system will not give you a true account of balance.

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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The only true way to see how unbalanced or balanced for RvR is for 100% each race, as it stands this % system will not give you a true account of balance. [/quote]
i completely disagree with this thread, being a devil that's been @ 3 of the last 4 Wotw

Human melle do roughly 100 a hit

chars like gentry yeoey khardasian? fully rip through me with their bows

i have maxed con but my dex is like 121, they never miss and i cannot cast.

I also had shakira standing in peace tanking me 1v1 in melle gear whilst i was full MA /proc

mages are squishy but 1 v1 with humans should be able to outpot

can i ask where the fight was? map % etc will have effected it
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[quote="MAGEY"]i completely disagree with this thread, being a devil that's been @ 3 of the last 4 Wotw Human melle do roughly 100 a hit chars like gentry yeoey khardasian? fully rip through me with their bows i have maxed con but my dex is like 121, they never miss and i cannot cast. I also had shakira standing in peace tanking me 1v1 in melle gear whilst i was full MA /proc mages are squishy but 1 v1 with humans should be able to outpot can i ask where the fight was? map % etc will have effected it[/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"The only true way to see how unbalanced or balanced for RvR is for 100% each race, as it stands this % system will not give you a true account of balance.



it doesnt work humans die so easy on dev 100% its not even funny they put it once and it was a massacre so they changed it back
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[quote="SYONIDE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]The only true way to see how unbalanced or balanced for RvR is for 100% each race, as it stands this % system will not give you a true account of balance. [/quote] it doesnt work humans die so easy on dev 100% its not even funny they put it once and it was a massacre so they changed it back[/quote]
RVR needs a dramatic rebalance to reflect the numbers involved in todays' game - there needs to eb a significant closing of the gap
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[quote="MICKYC"]RVR needs a dramatic rebalance to reflect the numbers involved in todays' game - there needs to eb a significant closing of the gap[/quote]
I remember back in esoma tanking tears, charun, Ooga, jet, oz and others many times at wotw but that was when level cap was 100 and bag weight from crafting hadn’t been nerfed like on here then you take the numbers and the % system then it was fine. At moment at every cap increase it creates more unbalance for one race but it’s a hard thing to find a true balance due to the fact at any given wotw etc humans jump onto there devils or devils jump onto there humans and you don’t get a true account of the true numbers to use as a starting point to address the race situation to make it more enjoyable, more fun or more balanced.

Yes devils are meant to be much more stronger than humans but only if all equations have been taking into account and addressed correctly will you get balance for a greater balance in battles.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I remember back in esoma tanking tears, charun, Ooga, jet, oz and others many times at wotw but that was when level cap was 100 and bag weight from crafting hadn’t been nerfed like on here then you take the numbers and the % system then it was fine. At moment at every cap increase it creates more unbalance for one race but it’s a hard thing to find a true balance due to the fact at any given wotw etc humans jump onto there devils or devils jump onto there humans and you don’t get a true account of the true numbers to use as a starting point to address the race situation to make it more enjoyable, more fun or more balanced. Yes devils are meant to be much more stronger than humans but only if all equations have been taking into account and addressed correctly will you get balance for a greater balance in battles.[/quote]
Talrasha has maxed out con, nerf mage defence you'll completely ruin devil vs devil pvp. You're delusional kid stay mad.
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[quote="ZYZZ"]Talrasha has maxed out con, nerf mage defence you'll completely ruin devil vs devil pvp. You're delusional kid stay mad.[/quote]
"DEAMOND"Oh yes my bad guys it's all my fault.. LOL

Majority of comments are from DL who own OP dev characters protecting their chars....

1:24 speaks for itself, as you can see others have the same gripe... And this isn't even a dev mage....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAowVsd1UeM&feature=youtu.be


I understand that devs are supposed to be stronger but none of you can sit there and honestly justify a devil outpotting 10+ humans for over 10 seconds, if you think this is fair and balanced you are deluded..

My suggestion is not to nerf dev chars outside of wotw purely within. ...

I am sure i will obtain more footage tonight which will specifically show dev mage chars tanking 20+ humans easily.


You realise that Meg has spent the last year buying OE's, and that devil's can respec all their stats to wis, get a clue.
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[quote="SOLID_SNAKE"][quote="DEAMOND"]Oh yes my bad guys it's all my fault.. LOL Majority of comments are from DL who own OP dev characters protecting their chars.... 1:24 speaks for itself, as you can see others have the same gripe... And this isn't even a dev mage.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAowVsd1UeM&feature=youtu.be I understand that devs are supposed to be stronger but none of you can sit there and honestly justify a devil outpotting 10+ humans for over 10 seconds, if you think this is fair and balanced you are deluded.. My suggestion is not to nerf dev chars outside of wotw purely within. ... I am sure i will obtain more footage tonight which will specifically show dev mage chars tanking 20+ humans easily.[/quote] You realise that Meg has spent the last year buying OE's, and that devil's can respec all their stats to wis, get a clue. [/quote]
Lol
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[quote="MEPH"]Lol[/quote]
Capped dsoma mage has 210con (equivalent to 210 str)
You should destroy a naked mage
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[quote="MERLIN"]Capped dsoma mage has 210con (equivalent to 210 str) You should destroy a naked mage[/quote]
A naked human mage has 250 more hp and 15 more def naked than a dsoma mage, better just nerf everything thats not u
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[quote="MEPH"]A naked human mage has 250 more hp and 15 more def naked than a dsoma mage, better just nerf everything thats not u[/quote]
"MERLIN"Capped dsoma mage has 210con (equivalent to 210 str)
You should destroy a naked mage


Exactly.

If you have pretty good gear and cannot kill a naked mage without needing zombie pants then something's not right...

I have 1296 BW with high crafting skill do indulge me how much BW a capped dev has?
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[quote="DEAMOND"][quote="MERLIN"]Capped dsoma mage has 210con (equivalent to 210 str) You should destroy a naked mage[/quote] Exactly. If you have pretty good gear and cannot kill a naked mage without needing zombie pants then something's not right... I have 1296 BW with high crafting skill do indulge me how much BW a capped dev has?[/quote]
Get better gear scrub

(:
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[quote="ZYZZ"]Get better gear scrub (:[/quote]

 

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