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AFRO |
Just an idea, not perfect but be good to have some feedback and any amends to it.
Remove feathers and replace it with random teleport scrolls...might solve more problems with pvp esp for spears, sword and knux. The idea behind it, if your stuck and need to teleport out you should be able to (RT should work whilst you are grey). Any archer/mage that want to engage in fighting can do so and if they feel like they need to run they can and if they need to use a scroll to escape from getting stoned or whatever then RT/TT should be the only option. People will then think twice as to when to use it and you'll prob see more PVP happening. We can also have the following skills to improve pvp / replace feathers. Shoulder dash (melee skill) - Charge at your target pushing them back, inflicting damage when hit by obstacles. - CD 4seconds Rage (melee skill) - Player enters a enraged state of mind where each weapon swing hits harder - duration 10seconds - CD 40seconds Repulse (mage skill) - Pushes away mobs and people surrounding you.- CD 4seconds Teleport (mage skill) - Spell that moves you to a location pointed on your cursor (similar to feathers but not random location) - CD 2seconds Flinch should also be improved so that if target is flinched then they have to walk for 1-2 seconds before being able to run again - removal of feather is key for this to work effectively - mages can use their target teleport to escape it first time and random teleport to escape second round. Last improvement I can think of but probably not necessary is to avoid the spam of stoning a single target, once a target is stoned they should be immune from getting stoned again for30 ish seconds.
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[quote="AFRO"]Just an idea, not perfect but be good to have some feedback and any amends to it.
Remove feathers and replace it with random teleport scrolls...might solve more problems with pvp esp for spears, sword and knux.
The idea behind it, if your stuck and need to teleport out you should be able to (RT should work whilst you are grey).
Any archer/mage that want to engage in fighting can do so and if they feel like they need to run they can and if they need to use a scroll to escape from getting stoned or whatever then RT/TT should be the only option.
People will then think twice as to when to use it and you'll prob see more PVP happening.
We can also have the following skills to improve pvp / replace feathers.
Shoulder dash (melee skill) - Charge at your target pushing them back, inflicting damage when hit by obstacles. - CD 4seconds
Rage (melee skill) - Player enters a enraged state of mind where each weapon swing hits harder - duration 10seconds - CD 40seconds
Repulse (mage skill) - Pushes away mobs and people surrounding you.- CD 4seconds
Teleport (mage skill) - Spell that moves you to a location pointed on your cursor (similar to feathers but not random location) - CD 2seconds
Flinch should also be improved so that if target is flinched then they have to walk for 1-2 seconds before being able to run again - removal of feather is key for this to work effectively - mages can use their target teleport to escape it first time and random teleport to escape second round.
Last improvement I can think of but probably not necessary is to avoid the spam of stoning a single target, once a target is stoned they should be immune from getting stoned again for30 ish seconds.[/quote]
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#1 2020/06/30 16:43:01 |
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MERLIN |
Would repulse and shoulder dash have cooldowns also?
I've always liked the thought of instant cast style skills with cool downs Though I think a 2s cooldown on mage to could be too quick, unless they were range limited it just plays into massive res, tp out precast, tp back, bang But yeah I like all those :D
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[quote="MERLIN"]Would repulse and shoulder dash have cooldowns also?
I've always liked the thought of instant cast style skills with cool downs
Though I think a 2s cooldown on mage to could be too quick, unless they were range limited it just plays into massive res, tp out precast, tp back, bang
But yeah I like all those :D[/quote]
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#2 2020/06/30 16:53:19 |
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AFRO |
"MERLIN"Would repulse and shoulder dash have cooldowns also? yep 4 ish or so seconds - similar to legend of mir for repulse and shoulder dash. cool down and duration can be amended based on what everyone thinks - my thinking for 2second is to give mages the flexibility to quickly move out from a spot but yeah maybe 4second is better as by the time you react to the teleportation they may have moved again. Couple of PK vids I managed to capture from a recent LOM Server.. (was my first time playing it in 15ish years) LOM PVP 1 LOM PVP 2 LOM PVP 3 LOM GVW They don't use feather they use RT when they need to opt out from PK.. you either opt in to fight to the death or teleport out delaying you from rejoining for potentially 10+ seconds - depends on the random TP luck. I know few mir players who will defo try out soma if some of these skills/auras/pvp improvements are added
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[quote="AFRO"][quote="MERLIN"]Would repulse and shoulder dash have cooldowns also?
I've always liked the thought of instant cast style skills with cool downs
Though I think a 2s cooldown on mage to could be too quick, unless they were range limited it just plays into massive res, tp out precast, tp back, bang
But yeah I like all those :D[/quote]
yep 4 ish or so seconds - similar to legend of mir for repulse and shoulder dash.
cool down and duration can be amended based on what everyone thinks - my thinking for 2second is to give mages the flexibility to quickly move out from a spot but yeah maybe 4second is better as by the time you react to the teleportation they may have moved again.
Couple of PK vids I managed to capture from a recent LOM Server.. (was my first time playing it in 15ish years)
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4oM7LR2dz8]LOM PVP 1[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loeHMuWJUQ8]LOM PVP 2[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyQcUzLPVtY]LOM PVP 3[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSg52cL3lI] LOM GVW[/url]
They don't use feather they use RT when they need to opt out from PK.. you either opt in to fight to the death or teleport out delaying you from rejoining for potentially 10+ seconds - depends on the random TP luck.
I know few mir players who will defo try out soma if some of these skills/auras/pvp improvements are added[/quote]
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#3 2020/06/30 16:58:00 |
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KAZOKU |
100% like to see more auras and diff kind of spells
like the idea of frost mage spell from wow( that freeze all targets around you) would break the freeze if attacked, but would be a nice crowned control spell that a mage could do with imo |
#4 2020/06/30 19:40:12 |
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AFRO |
"KAZOKU"100% like to see more auras and diff kind of spells Yep mir also has this and works fairly well to slow down your enemies .. would love to see it for mages Just talking to a guildy about the ideas and maybe if the above were possible to do we can try it out for an event type like CTF first... we can test the shit out of it and if everyone agrees we can roll it out into the normal game.
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[quote="AFRO"][quote="KAZOKU"]100% like to see more auras and diff kind of spells
like the idea of frost mage spell from wow( that freeze all targets around you) would break the freeze if attacked, but would be a nice crowned control spell that a mage could do with imo[/quote]
Yep mir also has this and works fairly well to slow down your enemies .. would love to see it for mages
Just talking to a guildy about the ideas and maybe if the above were possible to do we can try it out for an event type like CTF first... we can test the shit out of it and if everyone agrees we can roll it out into the normal game.[/quote]
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#5 2020/06/30 19:45:40 |
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KAZOKU |
i wouldnt want feather removed tho, theres lituly nothing to save you like feathers can, or to catch someone offguard (would need stuff adding to help with this before they was ever removed
as for RT, id be worried just relying on them would break the pvp fun up, as ppl would rt away and then the action ends , where as if someone feathers, there still onscreen to fight on tho i do understand melee annoyance when a range class constantly feathers, as for mages, there cast time aloues melee to at least close the distant, if need be could always up the delay on feather abit more
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[quote="KAZOKU"]i wouldnt want feather removed tho, theres lituly nothing to save you like feathers can, or to catch someone offguard (would need stuff adding to help with this before they was ever removed
as for RT, id be worried just relying on them would break the pvp fun up, as ppl would rt away and then the action ends , where as if someone feathers, there still onscreen to fight on
tho i do understand melee annoyance when a range class constantly feathers, as for mages, there cast time aloues melee to at least close the distant, if need be could always up the delay on feather abit more[/quote]
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#6 2020/06/30 20:24:43 |
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AFRO |
"KAZOKU"i wouldnt want feather removed tho, theres lituly nothing to save you like feathers can, or to catch someone offguard (would need stuff adding to help with this before they was ever removed thats why there is teleport for mages, and dash for melee. there is a lot of game that don't use feather.. feather is actually a big reason why pk is shit and people just run about. if you need saving.. teleport first and if you need another instant saving, rt and come bk by using rt .. takes prob 10seconds to return. feather just benefits mages and archer
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[quote="AFRO"][quote="KAZOKU"]i wouldnt want feather removed tho, theres lituly nothing to save you like feathers can, or to catch someone offguard (would need stuff adding to help with this before they was ever removed
as for RT, id be worried just relying on them would break the pvp fun up, as ppl would rt away and then the action ends , where as if someone feathers, there still onscreen to fight on
tho i do understand melee annoyance when a range class constantly feathers, as for mages, there cast time aloues melee to at least close the distant, if need be could always up the delay on feather abit more[/quote]
thats why there is teleport for mages, and dash for melee.
there is a lot of game that don't use feather.. feather is actually a big reason why pk is shit and people just run about. if you need saving.. teleport first and if you need another instant saving, rt and come bk by using rt .. takes prob 10seconds to return.
feather just benefits mages and archer[/quote]
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#7 2020/06/30 20:44:03 |
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YOSHIMIKA |
All of this is gold. 100% agree with adding in aura's and removing feathers, i hate the randomness of feathers. Give pvp abit more skill
Added this into my mega thread 4.7 and something similar was brought up in 3.4
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[quote="YOSHIMIKA"]All of this is gold. 100% agree with adding in aura's and removing feathers, i hate the randomness of feathers. Give pvp abit more skill
Added this into my mega thread [url=https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=38405&Page=1#post228654]4.7[/url] and something similar was brought up in 3.4[/quote]
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#8 2020/07/01 08:31:56 |
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BRAINSTORM |
"KAZOKU"i wouldnt want feather removed tho, theres lituly nothing to save you like feathers can, or to catch someone offguard (would need stuff adding to help with this before they was ever removed hence why you need a axer :) 5th stone works wonders :)
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[quote="BRAINSTORM"][quote="KAZOKU"]i wouldnt want feather removed tho, theres lituly nothing to save you like feathers can, or to catch someone offguard (would need stuff adding to help with this before they was ever removed
as for RT, id be worried just relying on them would break the pvp fun up, as ppl would rt away and then the action ends , where as if someone feathers, there still onscreen to fight on
tho i do understand melee annoyance when a range class constantly feathers, as for mages, there cast time aloues melee to at least close the distant, if need be could always up the delay on feather abit more[/quote]
hence why you need a axer :) 5th stone works wonders :)[/quote]
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#9 2020/07/01 09:46:23 |
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WHOOSH |
I wouldn’t mind this as a CTF style event, as I said when we discussed - but as a perm change to the game, Soma would no longer be Soma IMO.
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#10 2020/07/03 14:58:29 |
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AFRO |
bump
feathers should be removed and new skills are needed for the future PVP/ entertainment of this game Some of my suggestions I am re-listing Visual example 1 Visual example 2 Shoulder dash (melee skill) - Charge at your target pushing them back, inflicting damage when hit by obstacles. - CD 4seconds Rage (melee skill) - Player enters a enraged state of mind where each weapon swing hits harder - duration 10seconds - CD 40seconds Repulse (mage skill) - Pushes away mobs and people surrounding you.- CD 4seconds Teleport (mage skill) - Spell that moves you to a location pointed on your cursor (similar to feathers but not random location) - CD 2seconds Flinch should also be improved so that if target is flinched then they have to walk for 1-2 seconds before being able to run again - removal of feather is key for this to work effectively - mages can use their target teleport to escape it first time and random teleport to escape second round.
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[quote="AFRO"]bump
feathers should be removed and new skills are needed for the future PVP/ entertainment of this game
Some of my suggestions I am re-listing
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGCwXZ03BmY]Visual example 1[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt4Zg3lUGdg]Visual example 2[/url]
Shoulder dash (melee skill) - Charge at your target pushing them back, inflicting damage when hit by obstacles. - CD 4seconds
Rage (melee skill) - Player enters a enraged state of mind where each weapon swing hits harder - duration 10seconds - CD 40seconds
Repulse (mage skill) - Pushes away mobs and people surrounding you.- CD 4seconds
Teleport (mage skill) - Spell that moves you to a location pointed on your cursor (similar to feathers but not random location) - CD 2seconds
Flinch should also be improved so that if target is flinched then they have to walk for 1-2 seconds before being able to run again - removal of feather is key for this to work effectively - mages can use their target teleport to escape it first time and random teleport to escape second round.[/quote]
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#11 2020/08/05 12:31:01 |
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NITEFALL |
-1 will only cause more people to teleport to town and run to a different hunting spawn. Doubt it will make for better pvp. As it stands people just take two and carry on. So much so its normal.
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#12 2020/08/05 13:18:17 |
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BRAINSTORM |
-1 to removing feathers, i do play a mage also and feathers do come in handy lol
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#13 2020/08/05 17:43:13 |
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PHARMA |
increase the range feather teleports ya
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#14 2020/08/05 19:05:51 |
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NUCLEAR |
Ye I’m not sure about a complete removal of feathers, but I wouldn’t be against an even longer cool down. New auras would be a welcome edition 👍
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#15 2020/08/05 20:50:23 |
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