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[quote="QUASIMODO"]Could this be looked at and bring it inline with ls and ss. Heard it was spoken about before but nothing came of it. Even if you had to upgrade the spell like the rest with a high int requirement. The worst that could happen would be getting rid of those pesky proc mages :) [/quote]

[quote="GENTRY"] you would just be letting the already OP mages deal higher, more consistent damage alongside proc lol -1[/quote]

[quote="QUASIMODO"]Im trying to alter a meta here, proc mages wouldn't use it in pvp and IF they did it would do the same dmg? You need added MA in order to dmg cap DB and if you did add the MA you lose proc, however It could be a game changer for mages in regards to end game boss' as my 1 DB you've already thrown 3-4 nega knuckle hits. To be clear im not after a new high power death spell, just take the 'end game' spell and make it usable and viable to those who wish to steer from being generic proc mage. Its 1000 rec now (I think) 900/880 would be better. Rule #32[/quote]

[quote="PHARMA"]change LS to have same power output as SS should also be ingame. black mage has damage advantage[/quote]

[quote="MASAMANG"][quote="PHARMA"]change LS to have same power output as SS should also be ingame. black mage has damage advantage[/quote] white mages get the best max dmg range ability in game and cure with dispel? seems fine doing 60 less damage with weaken for ls in my eyes.[/quote]

[quote="BRAINSTORM"]-1 also nerf LS range from 8 to 5 [/quote]

[quote="PHARMA"]what spell is it that has best max damage? DB power 36 IF power 32(r5) Explosion 32(r4) Range aye but power is rubbish white and black have polar opposite with dispel and zombie dont see why the same spell of same range doesnt have same power could increase explosion range to 5 too[/quote]

[quote="VOLTORD"]Do spells also have different cast time? Saw an old manual with cast speeds mentioned[/quote]

[quote="PHARMA"]yea upgradable spells get faster / more mp efficient / more range. also its light arrow not lightsword that has high range P.S. im a black mage just figured it should be more evened out[/quote]

[quote="QUASIMODO"]The 2 classes should have there pros and cons. Speed/dmg/abilities are imo even. Think we are getting off topic though, just want DB sped up for those that wanna be blue/MA mages. Literally has 0 effect of the DB proc just makes better use of the end game spell.[/quote]

[quote="NITEFALL"]+1 if you let devils use another wep to 200 skill. [/quote]

[quote="SYRIOFOREL"]I think the main thing for me with white magic having the same damage as black would be the drop rate of virts / macs Ive had probably 6/7x the amount of virts drop then I have macs, if they were the same power / speed i'd reroll to white mage On topic though, DB speed increase would be nice although probably not to the same speed as lv4 LS/SS[/quote]

[quote="BRAINSTORM"][quote="NITEFALL"]+1 if you let devils use another wep to 200 skill. [/quote] LOOOL but you have access to sh1vs rigel sal3m and whoever else lol[/quote]

[quote="H4WKEYE"][quote="BRAINSTORM"][quote="NITEFALL"]+1 if you let devils use another wep to 200 skill. [/quote] LOOOL but you have access to sh1vs rigel sal3m and whoever else lol[/quote] Do you have a point here?[/quote]

[quote="QUASIMODO"]Back on topic ta Just out of of curiosity guys why the -1? What are the concerns or dislike for shaving 100-200 rec of DB? guess you would all say yes to another tier of weapon that you can +5/+8? Devs having all weapons would be broken as what combos would you have? Archers using axes and spear that do little dmg or axers using bows they cannot hit with? DB is in dsoma only as a proc and increasing the cast has 0 affect on the dsoma side. Would you cock block this for the once a week event that you may or may not attend? Melee users are saying it would make mages more op but run around with sub 400 bows and sub 300 knuckles calling 800/900 rec spell more op. Proc mages would wear less proc to cap the dmg of DB meaning less proc mages 🤔[/quote]