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Reinstate kick-out for negamare

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There are a number of problems relating to the way our ‘final stage’ boss works.

First of all - now that immunity and immunity potions are a thing - there is simply no need to not have a ‘kick out’ function that puts everyone outside the portal. This helps prevent dual screeners who are giving themselves an unfair advantage from being able to get back in quick enough and it also means the space is cleared so everyone can see the drops.

Secondly, there should be a repeatable quest for killing negamare 5 times or 10 times that gives an epic-intense nega weapon of your choice.

Thirdly, we should have a ‘no log out’ zone around negamare portal to ensure people cannot simply log off multiple characters next to the portal - taking advantage of others hard work doing the Crystal run in the process.
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[quote="SHOSKE"]There are a number of problems relating to the way our ‘final stage’ boss works. First of all - now that immunity and immunity potions are a thing - there is simply no need to not have a ‘kick out’ function that puts everyone outside the portal. This helps prevent dual screeners who are giving themselves an unfair advantage from being able to get back in quick enough and it also means the space is cleared so everyone can see the drops. Secondly, there should be a repeatable quest for killing negamare 5 times or 10 times that gives an epic-intense nega weapon of your choice. Thirdly, we should have a ‘no log out’ zone around negamare portal to ensure people cannot simply log off multiple characters next to the portal - taking advantage of others hard work doing the Crystal run in the process. [/quote]
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Tibi didnt get his wanted response so made a store char to poat it off with a reworded argument 😂
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[quote="H4WKEYE"]Tibi didnt get his wanted response so made a store char to poat it off with a reworded argument 😂[/quote]
It is too easy for people to multi box, been to a few with just me and one other person. That other person was using 4 characters though so had a bit of an advantage 😂

Needs looking at, it’s already been farmed heavily because it’s been left how it is.
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[quote="SERB"]It is too easy for people to multi box, been to a few with just me and one other person. That other person was using 4 characters though so had a bit of an advantage 😂 Needs looking at, it’s already been farmed heavily because it’s been left how it is.[/quote]
Yeah. It should be changed 100%. Not sure what it should be changed too tbh.
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[quote="GRIMPIRATE"]Yeah. It should be changed 100%. Not sure what it should be changed too tbh.[/quote]
Increased damage to every one, more zombie procs and add poison to stop healer tank.

As it is every one burning pots near the end so they have the bw to pick up drops.

For the end game boss with best loot it’s far to weak.
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[quote="SERB"]Increased damage to every one, more zombie procs and add poison to stop healer tank. As it is every one burning pots near the end so they have the bw to pick up drops. For the end game boss with best loot it’s far to weak.[/quote]
"SERB"It is too easy for people to multi box, been to a few with just me and one other person. That other person was using 4 characters though so had a bit of an advantage 😂

Needs looking at, it’s already been farmed heavily because it’s been left how it is.


"Someone else has invested more time than me, gearing and leveling 4 characters - despite knowing this, I want the same opportunity as him at "the end game boss" because I'm too lazy to do the same😭😡"



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[quote="449000"][quote="SERB"]It is too easy for people to multi box, been to a few with just me and one other person. That other person was using 4 characters though so had a bit of an advantage 😂 Needs looking at, it’s already been farmed heavily because it’s been left how it is.[/quote] "Someone else has invested more time than me, gearing and leveling 4 characters - despite knowing this, I want the same opportunity as him at "the end game boss" because I'm too lazy to do the same😭😡" [/quote]
Il put you down as a maybe then
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[quote="SERB"]Il put you down as a maybe then[/quote]
"449000"
"SERB"It is too easy for people to multi box, been to a few with just me and one other person. That other person was using 4 characters though so had a bit of an advantage 😂

Needs looking at, it’s already been farmed heavily because it’s been left how it is.


"Someone else has invested more time than me, gearing and leveling 4 characters - despite knowing this, I want the same opportunity as him at "the end game boss" because I'm too lazy to do the same😭😡"





Yes they should have an advantage of taking extra chars if theyve put in the effort to cap them, but lets be fair, the MAJORITY of people log others chars which they put 0 effort into

It should knock back at the very least to stop the ridiculous camping of range 1 spots, or feather around the room to make people retarget as it would break clicklock

And it should deal big damage and change targets at will like blitzen used to, ranged chars too not just the range 1 folk so said multi logged chars have to actually deal with damage and targetting rather than click once and tab out
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[quote="H4WKEYE"][quote="449000"][quote="SERB"]It is too easy for people to multi box, been to a few with just me and one other person. That other person was using 4 characters though so had a bit of an advantage 😂 Needs looking at, it’s already been farmed heavily because it’s been left how it is.[/quote] "Someone else has invested more time than me, gearing and leveling 4 characters - despite knowing this, I want the same opportunity as him at "the end game boss" because I'm too lazy to do the same😭😡" [/quote] Yes they should have an advantage of taking extra chars if theyve put in the effort to cap them, but lets be fair, the MAJORITY of people log others chars which they put 0 effort into It should knock back at the very least to stop the ridiculous camping of range 1 spots, or feather around the room to make people retarget as it would break clicklock And it should deal big damage and change targets at will like blitzen used to, ranged chars too not just the range 1 folk so said multi logged chars have to actually deal with damage and targetting rather than click once and tab out[/quote]
I can see this thread is immediately dividing people down alliance lines.

Look, from a neutral/independent perspective I just think it is really unfair that not only are the spots all taken up - effectively precluding other range 1 from a chance of participating properly - and also that with spaces filled even if you do get the kill it's impossible to get all the drops without a modification like a clicker because characters are standing over all the items so you can't see them.

My suggestion of returning negamare to a kickout type thing is about ensuring players who kill the boss have a chance to get back in and pick everything up. It also has the added impact of sorting out dual screeners.

The argument that because people have geared 2 or 3 or even 4 characters means they should be entitled to use all of these at the same boss is fundamentally flawed. Giving yourself a very clear unfair advantage at a boss mob shouldn't be allowed.
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[quote="SHOSKE"]I can see this thread is immediately dividing people down alliance lines. Look, from a neutral/independent perspective I just think it is really unfair that not only are the spots all taken up - effectively precluding other range 1 from a chance of participating properly - and also that with spaces filled even if you do get the kill it's impossible to get all the drops without a modification like a clicker because characters are standing over all the items so you can't see them. My suggestion of returning negamare to a kickout type thing is about ensuring players who kill the boss have a chance to get back in and pick everything up. It also has the added impact of sorting out dual screeners. The argument that because people have geared 2 or 3 or even 4 characters means they should be entitled to use all of these at the same boss is fundamentally flawed. Giving yourself a very clear unfair advantage at a boss mob shouldn't be allowed. [/quote]
"SHOSKE"I can see this thread is immediately dividing people down alliance lines.

Look, from a neutral/independent perspective I just think it is really unfair that not only are the spots all taken up - effectively precluding other range 1 from a chance of participating properly - and also that with spaces filled even if you do get the kill it's impossible to get all the drops without a modification like a clicker because characters are standing over all the items so you can't see them.

My suggestion of returning negamare to a kickout type thing is about ensuring players who kill the boss have a chance to get back in and pick everything up. It also has the added impact of sorting out dual screeners.

The argument that because people have geared 2 or 3 or even 4 characters means they should be entitled to use all of these at the same boss is fundamentally flawed. Giving yourself a very clear unfair advantage at a boss mob shouldn't be allowed.


No it's not dividing people down alliance lines, if anything two people from both alliances have come together to argue the same point.

If you are unable to get a spot as a range 1 character, and lose it to another player - this is your own fault. You have chosen a range 1 weapon, which has it's advantages over ranged weapons for starters. If you are range 1, you should have the instinct to be on time for nega at that portal when T8 strikes you're in securing a position. If you're not successful, that's just called being unlucky.

Seriously? All the drops are blocked by players standing over them??😂 This doesn't warrant the need for kick back to be reinstated - if anything it shows poor micromanagement.

The only reason why the "kickout type thing" was removed in the first place was because people who have legitimately killed Nega were unable to get their drops due to being instantly stoned when getting kicked out (it was abused by the likes of yourself, Tibi).

Again, another reminder: people were dual screening long before nega, get over it.
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[quote="449000"][quote="SHOSKE"]I can see this thread is immediately dividing people down alliance lines. Look, from a neutral/independent perspective I just think it is really unfair that not only are the spots all taken up - effectively precluding other range 1 from a chance of participating properly - and also that with spaces filled even if you do get the kill it's impossible to get all the drops without a modification like a clicker because characters are standing over all the items so you can't see them. My suggestion of returning negamare to a kickout type thing is about ensuring players who kill the boss have a chance to get back in and pick everything up. It also has the added impact of sorting out dual screeners. The argument that because people have geared 2 or 3 or even 4 characters means they should be entitled to use all of these at the same boss is fundamentally flawed. Giving yourself a very clear unfair advantage at a boss mob shouldn't be allowed. [/quote] No it's not dividing people down alliance lines, if anything two people from both alliances have come together to argue the same point. If you are unable to get a spot as a range 1 character, and lose it to another player - this is your own fault. You have chosen a range 1 weapon, which has it's advantages over ranged weapons for starters. If you are range 1, you should have the instinct to be on time for nega at that portal when T8 strikes you're in securing a position. If you're not successful, that's just called being unlucky. Seriously? All the drops are blocked by players standing over them??😂 This doesn't warrant the need for kick back to be reinstated - if anything it shows poor micromanagement. The only reason why the "kickout type thing" was removed in the first place was because people who have legitimately killed Nega were unable to get their drops due to being instantly stoned when getting kicked out (it was abused by the likes of yourself, Tibi). Again, another reminder: people were dual screening long before nega, get over it.[/quote]
It does need buffing, its waybtoi easy for an end game boss.
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[quote="POTE"]It does need buffing, its waybtoi easy for an end game boss. [/quote]

 

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