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I have mentioned this in discord about pk level and the fact you get griefed when you hit 110. No chance of defending yourself against that, and eventually lose the will to do anything so leave the game - all get told is ‘stop care bear’ - here is a reason why a change is needed to immunity at least until you are closer to the level cap. Will just be same people shouting in world shout ‘come gv’ and then shouting in world chat afterwards...
Mentioned as part of this thread need change in content and less grind killing mobs more engagement, lots of ideas but something needs implementing as no further forward than last year...
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[quote="AXOM"]I have mentioned this in discord about pk level and the fact you get griefed when you hit 110. No chance of defending yourself against that, and eventually lose the will to do anything so leave the game - all get told is ‘stop care bear’ - here is a reason why a change is needed to immunity at least until you are closer to the level cap. Will just be same people shouting in world shout ‘come gv’ and then shouting in world chat afterwards...
Mentioned as part of this thread need change in content and less grind killing mobs more engagement, lots of ideas but something needs implementing as no further forward than last year... [/quote]
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#31 2021/02/28 12:08:21 |
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"AXOM"I have mentioned this in discord about pk level and the fact you get griefed when you hit 110. No chance of defending yourself against that, and eventually lose the will to do anything so leave the game - all get told is ‘stop care bear’ - here is a reason why a change is needed to immunity at least until you are closer to the level cap. Will just be same people shouting in world shout ‘come gv’ and then shouting in world chat afterwards... dude the PK cap has been mentioned since the 110 cap got put in 110-130 is a massive cap, need to be 125-130, 5 level range
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[quote="BRAINSTORM"][quote="AXOM"]I have mentioned this in discord about pk level and the fact you get griefed when you hit 110. No chance of defending yourself against that, and eventually lose the will to do anything so leave the game - all get told is ‘stop care bear’ - here is a reason why a change is needed to immunity at least until you are closer to the level cap. Will just be same people shouting in world shout ‘come gv’ and then shouting in world chat afterwards...
Mentioned as part of this thread need change in content and less grind killing mobs more engagement, lots of ideas but something needs implementing as no further forward than last year... [/quote]
dude the PK cap has been mentioned since the 110 cap got put in
110-130 is a massive cap, need to be 125-130, 5 level range [/quote]
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#32 2021/02/28 17:06:21 |
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What about putting the original 2 death immunity back in if you're between 20-5 levels difference with a character, then have immunity pots only come in when you're 5-0 levels difference?
Then there's not too much impact on people who aren't strong enough to fight back or run away, as long as they have resi scrolls? The real risk then only lies with the 'competitive' level differences (0-5), while the PKer can still get their fun out of killing 'weaker' people (5-20 level difference) with little upset to the victim - they could even still have a crack at fighting back. I feel like it'll stop abuse to killing characters over and over that are obviously never going to be able to compete (110 v 130)
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[quote="VALASI"]What about putting the original 2 death immunity back in if you're between 20-5 levels difference with a character, then have immunity pots only come in when you're 5-0 levels difference?
Then there's not too much impact on people who aren't strong enough to fight back or run away, as long as they have resi scrolls?
The real risk then only lies with the 'competitive' level differences (0-5), while the PKer can still get their fun out of killing 'weaker' people (5-20 level difference) with little upset to the victim - they could even still have a crack at fighting back.
I feel like it'll stop abuse to killing characters over and over that are obviously never going to be able to compete (110 v 130)[/quote]
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#33 2021/02/28 17:21:23 |
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"BRAINSTORM""AXOM"I have mentioned this in discord about pk level and the fact you get griefed when you hit 110. No chance of defending yourself against that, and eventually lose the will to do anything so leave the game - all get told is ‘stop care bear’ - here is a reason why a change is needed to immunity at least until you are closer to the level cap. Will just be same people shouting in world shout ‘come gv’ and then shouting in world chat afterwards... "VALASI"What about putting the original 2 death immunity back in if you're between 20-5 levels difference with a character, then have immunity pots only come in when you're 5-0 levels difference? Been mentioned about the gap and everything but always said - stop being care-bear... I agree with what Valasi has said, ‘taking 2’ should stay until you are <5 levels difference or reduced pk range until 5 levels.
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[quote="AXOM"][quote="BRAINSTORM"][quote="AXOM"]I have mentioned this in discord about pk level and the fact you get griefed when you hit 110. No chance of defending yourself against that, and eventually lose the will to do anything so leave the game - all get told is ‘stop care bear’ - here is a reason why a change is needed to immunity at least until you are closer to the level cap. Will just be same people shouting in world shout ‘come gv’ and then shouting in world chat afterwards...
Mentioned as part of this thread need change in content and less grind killing mobs more engagement, lots of ideas but something needs implementing as no further forward than last year... [/quote]
dude the PK cap has been mentioned since the 110 cap got put in
110-130 is a massive cap, need to be 125-130, i5 level range [/quote]
[quote="VALASI"]What about putting the original 2 death immunity back in if you're between 20-5 levels difference with a character, then have immunity pots only come in when you're 5-0 levels difference?
Then there's not too much impact on people who aren't strong enough to fight back or run away, as long as they have resi scrolls?
The real risk then only lies with the 'competitive' level differences (0-5), while the PKer can still get their fun out of killing 'weaker' people (5-20 level difference) with little upset to the victim - they could even still have a crack at fighting back.
I feel like it'll stop abuse to killing characters over and over that are obviously never going to be able to compete (110 v 130)[/quote]
Been mentioned about the gap and everything but always said - stop being care-bear...
I agree with what Valasi has said, ‘taking 2’ should stay until you are <5 levels difference or reduced pk range until 5 levels.
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#34 2021/02/28 20:13:17 |
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In terms of the level range 20 is too high.
But as for immunity I think only pots should be the way forward. But make the posts cost 1 daily per 5 pots. That would help massively. You’d get 2 dailies doing your normal hunting and also one bug daily. I don’t think putting the 2 deaths back in is wise as people can go back to botting DF/Palus for diamonds again.
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[quote="TYRESE"]In terms of the level range 20 is too high.
But as for immunity I think only pots should be the way forward. But make the posts cost 1 daily per 5 pots. That would help massively. You’d get 2 dailies doing your normal hunting and also one bug daily.
I don’t think putting the 2 deaths back in is wise as people can go back to botting DF/Palus for diamonds again. [/quote]
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#35 2021/02/28 21:25:24 |
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"TYRESE"In terms of the level range 20 is too high. I disagree slightly - I think it should be 1 daily token for 2 pots... that way it's 2 hours of uninterrupted hunting potential. Also the PK range should be changed for max level characters so they can only attack those 10 levels below.
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[quote="RAGNA"][quote="TYRESE"]In terms of the level range 20 is too high.
But as for immunity I think only pots should be the way forward. But make the posts cost 1 daily per 5 pots. That would help massively. You’d get 2 dailies doing your normal hunting and also one bug daily.
I don’t think putting the 2 deaths back in is wise as people can go back to botting DF/Palus for diamonds again. [/quote]
I disagree slightly - I think it should be 1 daily token for 2 pots... that way it's 2 hours of uninterrupted hunting potential.
Also the PK range should be changed for max level characters so they can only attack those 10 levels below. [/quote]
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#36 2021/02/28 23:21:27 |
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Whilst I’m not aligned to the fact botters are kept in line with pk, it’s where we are so kinda get that, therefore adding x2 deaths back in will allow them to go on.
Reducing the cost to 1 daily for say 3 pots, that means around 2.5hours of actual hunting time (factoring running etc) there can do the first one on bugs in town, then move on to say trolls for the next one. Reducing pk range as well to at least 10 levels to start with... if that’s still to much can reduce again if required. Think that’s an agreeable change?
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[quote="AXOM"]Whilst I’m not aligned to the fact botters are kept in line with pk, it’s where we are so kinda get that, therefore adding x2 deaths back in will allow them to go on.
Reducing the cost to 1 daily for say 3 pots, that means around 2.5hours of actual hunting time (factoring running etc) there can do the first one on bugs in town, then move on to say trolls for the next one.
Reducing pk range as well to at least 10 levels to start with... if that’s still to much can reduce again if required.
Think that’s an agreeable change? [/quote]
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#37 2021/03/01 08:30:41 |
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Thanks for all the replies, I didn't expect this to become a multipage thread really. One thing I had in mind was to not ask for game changes, this is like a final straw kind of effort, but it seems this stems far beyond just myself and is a much bigger problem than I realised.
Since posting the thread a lot of people have been kind and offered help showing that there is a large chunk of you here in this community that are lovely people. This highlights all the more that it is simply the petty actions of a small handful and game changes are too much of an ask. There is an ettiquite listed here in the forum. All that is really needed is it being enforced, or coming together as a community to reject them. PKing is part of the game. Causing grievance for the sake of grievance should be dealt with however. That being said I have not yet reached out to any GMs, as it would be better to sort it out like people. Dokkebi being a key name. Using his char to 5th axe me and use a devil moral char to do the hits is clearly a grievance tactic. 4634 coming in as well to prevent me hunting without even saying anything, simply to cause grievance. Granted 1v1 but still mismatched simply because of 5th axe and the level difference. Can't fight it. Which highlights another thing, 5th axe seems to be the tool of the griefer. I've never really encountered it before. You'd think banging out noobs was easy enough already, but how to answer this I am unsure, not looking for a removal of 5th axe but maybe there's a couple tweaks that could be done? Remove the length of affect increase from being a lower level? Seems most minimally impactful to me? Anyway, thanks again for all the replies. Nice to know I'm not alone!
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[quote="VABRYN"]Thanks for all the replies, I didn't expect this to become a multipage thread really. One thing I had in mind was to not ask for game changes, this is like a final straw kind of effort, but it seems this stems far beyond just myself and is a much bigger problem than I realised.
Since posting the thread a lot of people have been kind and offered help showing that there is a large chunk of you here in this community that are lovely people. This highlights all the more that it is simply the petty actions of a small handful and game changes are too much of an ask.
There is an ettiquite listed here in the forum. All that is really needed is it being enforced, or coming together as a community to reject them.
PKing is part of the game. Causing grievance for the sake of grievance should be dealt with however. That being said I have not yet reached out to any GMs, as it would be better to sort it out like people.
Dokkebi being a key name. Using his char to 5th axe me and use a devil moral char to do the hits is clearly a grievance tactic.
4634 coming in as well to prevent me hunting without even saying anything, simply to cause grievance. Granted 1v1 but still mismatched simply because of 5th axe and the level difference. Can't fight it.
Which highlights another thing, 5th axe seems to be the tool of the griefer. I've never really encountered it before. You'd think banging out noobs was easy enough already, but how to answer this I am unsure, not looking for a removal of 5th axe but maybe there's a couple tweaks that could be done? Remove the length of affect increase from being a lower level? Seems most minimally impactful to me?
Anyway, thanks again for all the replies. Nice to know I'm not alone![/quote]
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#38 2021/03/02 10:50:23 |
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Also seperately, would like to offer thanks to SB99 and darklegacy crew.
I have not once asked them for help, and with sb watching the player feed he has come to my aid every time trouble has come looking for me. Without this help I don't know if I'd still be playing. They certainly have helped remove the hopeless and helplessness of the situation.
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[quote="VABRYN"]Also seperately, would like to offer thanks to SB99 and darklegacy crew.
I have not once asked them for help, and with sb watching the player feed he has come to my aid every time trouble has come looking for me. Without this help I don't know if I'd still be playing. They certainly have helped remove the hopeless and helplessness of the situation.[/quote]
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#39 2021/03/02 10:58:22 |
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"VABRYN"Also seperately, would like to offer thanks to SB99 and darklegacy crew. I just want people to continue playing. I'm sure you will get your revenge in the end but you will see the enemy talking about being outnumbered when you do, well of course they are outnumbered when they behave like this to new players. Too worried about moles and new secret characters. Who cares about that, what can they possibly achieve??
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[quote="SB99"][quote="VABRYN"]Also seperately, would like to offer thanks to SB99 and darklegacy crew.
I have not once asked them for help, and with sb watching the player feed he has come to my aid every time trouble has come looking for me. Without this help I don't know if I'd still be playing. They certainly have helped remove the hopeless and helplessness of the situation.[/quote]
I just want people to continue playing. I'm sure you will get your revenge in the end but you will see the enemy talking about being outnumbered when you do, well of course they are outnumbered when they behave like this to new players.
Too worried about moles and new secret characters. Who cares about that, what can they possibly achieve??
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#40 2021/03/03 10:25:26 |
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"ICAROS"Bavryn why u come here to cry when I see today kaide talk about u and 2 friends more come server to help dl if no like pk life is essay go neutral guild.but no one neutral guild in game sorry talk whit xaxo about pk.u think u can come pvp game to help dL and Korea or other ppl leave u hunt in pace?zyzz devula sb how you all talk about ppl harras other ppl when u made this for last year whit all ppl come bk game lol Go neutral guild? I have been in arcanix since i came to this server and because i give SR or upgrade for anyone i was branded a dL spy. Arcanix is getting hit all the time and the answer when questioned is 'Sorry, we was told not to hit arcanix but we missed the message' Since when was Soma a 'PVP game? You show me anywhere where it is labelled a pvp game
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[quote="CHEYENNE"][quote="ICAROS"]Bavryn why u come here to cry when I see today kaide talk about u and 2 friends more come server to help dl if no like pk life is essay go neutral guild.but no one neutral guild in game sorry talk whit xaxo about pk.u think u can come pvp game to help dL and Korea or other ppl leave u hunt in pace?zyzz devula sb how you all talk about ppl harras other ppl when u made this for last year whit all ppl come bk game lol[/quote]
Go neutral guild?
I have been in arcanix since i came to this server and because i give SR or upgrade for anyone i was branded a dL spy. Arcanix is getting hit all the time and the answer when questioned is 'Sorry, we was told not to hit arcanix but we missed the message'
Since when was Soma a 'PVP game? You show me anywhere where it is labelled a pvp game[/quote]
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#41 2021/03/03 19:23:54 |
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"PETE9"Why is the pk level range so big? Ive questioned this many times It should be lvl 5 difference imo, gives players a fighting chance and this having to go pk mode to defend yourself is ludicrous you get a lvl 130 attacking a lvl 110 and before they get timme to react with pk mode they are dead.
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[quote="CHEYENNE"][quote="PETE9"]Why is the pk level range so big?[/quote]
Ive questioned this many times
It should be lvl 5 difference imo, gives players a fighting chance and this having to go pk mode to defend yourself is ludicrous
you get a lvl 130 attacking a lvl 110 and before they get timme to react with pk mode they are dead. [/quote]
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#42 2021/03/03 19:29:35 |
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"BRAINSTORM"as it stand a level 130 can PK a 110, now thats a massive stat gap imo should be 125-130 +1 |
#43 2021/03/03 19:30:32 |
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"CHEYENNE""ICAROS"Bavryn why u come here to cry when I see today kaide talk about u and 2 friends more come server to help dl if no like pk life is essay go neutral guild.but no one neutral guild in game sorry talk whit xaxo about pk.u think u can come pvp game to help dL and Korea or other ppl leave u hunt in pace?zyzz devula sb how you all talk about ppl harras other ppl when u made this for last year whit all ppl come bk game lol When was soma used as a dating website? asking for saber x
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[quote="LVL12"][quote="CHEYENNE"][quote="ICAROS"]Bavryn why u come here to cry when I see today kaide talk about u and 2 friends more come server to help dl if no like pk life is essay go neutral guild.but no one neutral guild in game sorry talk whit xaxo about pk.u think u can come pvp game to help dL and Korea or other ppl leave u hunt in pace?zyzz devula sb how you all talk about ppl harras other ppl when u made this for last year whit all ppl come bk game lol[/quote]
Go neutral guild?
I have been in arcanix since i came to this server and because i give SR or upgrade for anyone i was branded a dL spy. Arcanix is getting hit all the time and the answer when questioned is 'Sorry, we was told not to hit arcanix but we missed the message'
Since when was Soma a 'PVP game? You show me anywhere where it is labelled a pvp game[/quote]
When was soma used as a dating website? asking for saber x [/quote]
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#44 2021/03/03 22:11:08 |
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Well, Nite was once very upset when his beach date with Cybele was interrupted.
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