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[quote="TYRESE"]I know something like this has been suggested before. But I think at the moment you can’t seem to buy anything unless it involves SD’s or double tabs etc. Even trying to sell items is a nightmare as there just isn’t a demand for them. A good Barr sink might possibly be to have a store you can buy certain items from with barr. Giving you another item which becomes valuable again, as it stands unless you don’t hunt and pk constantly Barr is worthless. You’d have people actively selling items for Barr to gain enough for the shop items. What these items are remains to be seen without game breaking changes. Another point I’ve noticed is, has anyone ever bought an SD using daily marks? 17 is ridiculous even before immunity pots were added to the daily store. You’d need to hunt 3 dailies per day spread across 5 days for one SD, it’s just not viable even for the hardcore players. Any suggestions welcomed.[/quote]

[quote="4634"][quote="TYRESE"]I know something like this has been suggested before. But I think at the moment you can’t seem to buy anything unless it involves SD’s or double tabs etc. Even trying to sell items is a nightmare as there just isn’t a demand for them. A good Barr sink might possibly be to have a store you can buy certain items from with barr. Giving you another item which becomes valuable again, as it stands unless you don’t hunt and pk constantly Barr is worthless. You’d have people actively selling items for Barr to gain enough for the shop items. What these items are remains to be seen without game breaking changes. Another point I’ve noticed is, has anyone ever bought an SD using daily marks? 17 is ridiculous even before immunity pots were added to the daily store. You’d need to hunt 3 dailies per day spread across 5 days for one SD, it’s just not viable even for the hardcore players. Any suggestions welcomed.[/quote] 100% on the daily marks being too high and i think tps for daily marks should be doubled to 4 - not so important to capped players but when leveling with minimal gear you have to do more than 4 runs to do a daily! Would like to see suggestions on what people think should be added to be sold for bar? for me nega teears because the anvil will break everything anyway and it gives people who arent getting nega kills to make some decent gear - other ideas if they could be added is something to do with chaarcter speeds- alot of people didnt like this but people did suggest ctf slow etc -what if you could buy potions to proc such auras? or maybe as previously suggested some form of stables to raise and ride a mount . Bounty systems for pk ? is another way to use bar lol[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]It’s what happens having ss to +8..... Players need there machine gun weapons... [/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]I don’t think there’s anything wrong with SS’ing to +8, I think it’s that we need to have more items with which people will buy. If you could say buy a nega tear for 15m which are worth 3-5 SD then you’d take away another avenue for people to use SD to buy things with. Don’t get me wrong I could be onto a complete loser here but I don’t see the harm in making Barr valuable again and adding a few extra items into circulation. I honestly think people sat on 400 herbs / LL would be more inclined to sell some for better items giving lower levels a chance of making DP / KE’s etc to progress.[/quote]

[quote="ZUZU"]Would be cool to have some sort of "Black Market Trader" NPC in VOD / IC that each month its items of top weapons and upgrade items change by the GMs and stay there for the month, until being replaced with other items the next month. for example iSylver / Finito can choose: Nega Axe rare = 15,000,000 Barr Delight Tablet = 4,000,000 Barr Tablet of Frost = 4,000,000 Barr Epic Nega staff = 20,000,000 Barr Red pod = 2,000,000 Barr Defensive buff potion = 200,000 Barr Then the next month: Nega Sword Epic = 20,000,000 Barr Negamare tear = 15,000,000 Barr Red dragons tablet = 4,000,000 Barr Tablet of courage = 7,000,000 Barr and so on and so forth Barr is the only thing in the game that is a guaranteed path of progression and unfortunately most of us don't even bother to pick it up most of the time.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]Love that idea. It would mean you’d have to choose wisely on what item you buy in case something nicer came out next month.[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Can just see it now set the scene......... Cloud of smoke, a few loud bangs, black smoke appears. The smoke settles and a yellow robin reliant is parked in tyt town iSylver will be played by Del Boy, Finito will be played by Rodney. Del Boy stands shouting out all his bargains, while Rodney looks on for the police.[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]On a serious note, I’ve had many chats with many players about how different this server is compared to esoma and most was in agreement that esoma was better in that Barr was the main currency. Your trying to undo the last what 7 years of the server... In that the players went a different route and somehow chose to trade item for item or item for items and basically disregarded Barr as any form of currency. On this server the main purpose of selling for Barr is usually to generate enough to buy mats for crafting, then the next most common items will be for pots, waters, resis scrolls. Let’s take small diamonds for example, someone somewhere at some point felt they were worth a medium ruby so everyone jumped on that and wanted same, problem is a small diamond is imho worth a small ruby in that both diamonds and rubies are much needed for SS, level 4 spells and rubies mostly for keen eyes, they both require 9 to make a large. But someone wanted more at the time so hence 1 small for a medium. This is the problem we are faced with, it’s ok asking for new recipes now and then but if not thought out long term you arrive at a point just like we are in now, look at jades they could have been made into anyone of the newer recipes but keep getting overlooked simply because some players may have a few hundred maybe a over a thousand or so of them in there WH. Nice idea about the exchanging Barr for certain items but that will just create more unbalance in that many players are sat on millions and millions of Barr and then the economy will just go tits up.[/quote]

[quote="BRAINSTORM"]more PVP would be a barr sink :P[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]I understand there are some chars who have an abundance of Barr which will see them profit early doors but then when it balances out there will be players able to buy simple items like herbs and LL for things other than SD. This to me is a complete no brainer. Even if it was conti dependant and like Zuzu has said mix the shop items up once a month, meaning you’d have to plan your buys sensibly. This will help lower levels progress and it won’t be game breaking as we all have the means to go and farm mags for Barr if we really wanted too, again adding more items into the mix from drops. I know I’d rather collect 10m for an item I wanted rather than hope for it drop while farming.[/quote]

[quote="ZUZU"]Agreed, imagine an epic nega knux dropping into the shop for 30m - imagine the amount of heads farming elders to get barr, and like Tyrese says, that would yield extra drops from those farming sessions into the economy that wouldn't have been there. love the idea, very easy to implement, would just require some commitment from Dan / Fin to update the shop each month[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Like I said, nice idea but doubt you’ll change mentality of the server into anything other than trading items for items, Barr is basically worthless.[/quote]

[quote="ZUZU"]If the above is implemented, feel free to give me all of your worthless Barr Raven <3[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I’m one of those that sold for Barr to fund my crafting..... I pick Barr off the floor I’m that skint ;)[/quote]

[quote="SB99"]Yeah I agree. Economy is so bad atm, basically can't buy a bitter bone helmet! I remember Knightrider suggesting buying sds for barr also. I think this is the best idea. I would draw the line at nega weapons, nega tears and other top tier items. Make barr great again. Maybe even RESET everyones barr to ZERO!! Of course there will be "I'll quit if this happens, I worked hard for my barr",[/quote]