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[quote="TYRESE"]Lupi, more people have said that farming end game normal mobs is aids and repeatable kill quests on them wouldn’t improve things than there is people saying it’s a good idea. That’s a fact. As for your comment on there’s no enough mags for everyone, the spawn in vod is huge for normal mags, same as conti there are plenty of mobs to go round. It would also encourage both races to attend WotW because they would want the extra spawn of mags to help with crowding so there is another good point to look at. Not all chars can hunt mags? Everyone should have atleast 100int, everyone has the ability to buy intense nightmare and add +2 OE to a set, there’s enough arbor out there to make a set. So that point isn’t valid. Granted though, some chars are far better suited to mags but that’s the whole point of soma, you build your char to what you want. Again, people selling for barr being ridiculous is flawed, the people who ‘can’t’ hunt mags or simply don’t want to can still farm their chosen mobs and sell their drops for Barr meaning they can still participate in buying items from the NPC along with those who want to hunt mags. Rather than being rude with how you are posting things try and be constructive, I’ve just answered all your points with what I believe are very valid points myself.[/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]being rude? and not constructive? ok.... pass the dutchie from the left hand side [/quote]

[quote="LUTHER"]making barr valuable is a no brainer - people probs just cant imagine it cause its been worthless for so long, no reason at all it cant be the main currency they can change barr drops on mobs in 2 seconds so sure they'd make sure its fair for everyone[/quote]

[quote="SB99"]Just change barr at top end warrior mobs. Raptors are basically melee elders anyway. Problem solved.[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"][quote="ZUZU"]Would be cool to have some sort of "Black Market Trader" NPC in VOD / IC that each month its items of top weapons and upgrade items change by the GMs and stay there for the month, until being replaced with other items the next month. for example iSylver / Finito can choose: Nega Axe rare = 15,000,000 Barr Delight Tablet = 4,000,000 Barr Tablet of Frost = 4,000,000 Barr Epic Nega staff = 20,000,000 Barr Red pod = 2,000,000 Barr Defensive buff potion = 200,000 Barr Then the next month: Nega Sword Epic = 20,000,000 Barr Negamare tear = 15,000,000 Barr Red dragons tablet = 4,000,000 Barr Tablet of courage = 7,000,000 Barr and so on and so forth Barr is the only thing in the game that is a guaranteed path of progression and unfortunately most of us don't even bother to pick it up most of the time.[/quote] I’m only quoting you zuzu cause you’re only one to put down an example with items/price to show others the purpose of trying to make Barr more worthwhile, forgive me if it looks like I’m having a go I’m not. Any npc in the future that may sell high end items for Barr the price needs to be inflated to prevent the rich, the 24/7, hardcore from ruining the game, by that I mean take delight tabs roughly can trade for 2 medium rubies or a small diamond roughly 5 mil Barr. If an npc were to sell at 4-5 mil the rich could exploit the situation and then trade them delight tabs at 4-5 mil for small diamonds that they needed/wanted on mass. Now if the npc was to sell the delight tab at say 8-10 mil it prevents the exploitation and makes sure only players really wanting the delight tab would buy, would come in handy if nobody is selling them at the current time. I’m all in favour of Barr being the main currency and Barr sinks but it needs thought out in that it doesn’t make the rich, the 24/7, the hardcore running away even further in front that it makes it impossible for casual players to play Soma. Any future npc selling items Shouldn’t sell items that can be gained from hunting normal mobs that can be farmed 24/7. It should be from bosses only, with like I said inflated prices so that even a casual player could say I have a way to compete in my own time. [/quote]

[quote="NIBBLET"]Could we have quests that require Barr and x amount of y as required for reward. Maybe like Master hunter, level 100, Kill 1000 Boar Collect 2 mill barr Returns upgrade cache. Numbers will have to be revised as not sure what higher level Barr is like tbh. [/quote]

[quote="LUTHER"]all good ideas: - barr sink quests - raise the price of shop items - drifting vendor who sells stuff for barr - tweak barr gain from certain mobs You can work out the basic barr price for an item now by how long it takes to get compared to how long the barr takes to farm at mags so just as a rough example say it were 15 hours currently to get a rare nega wep, and in 15 hours you can get 10mill barr, a rare nega wep should be currently worth about 10mill in theory as long as the vendor sells the item for say x2 this (20 mill bar per rare wep) then economy wise it makes a lot of sense also think they can give him no name and make him wander all over vod so hes untraceable which would be funny[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Would be more fun if he or she was to wander all over every map, ie once clicked and an item sold he/she would disappear and respawn on another map ;)[/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]if players need to spend their barr...... introduce at the npc shop.. all tp's immune pots available for under lev 125's 150 hp pots available for over level 125's possibly limited amounts of bones for barr per 24 hours.. wotever etc all at a cost ofc .. not cheap and bring in valour scrolls that drop from hi end mobs to trade in for the rarer items that come from bosses only.. 5th shards/ tears..some of the hi end accessories and maybe med di's wotever.. just buying top end items for barr doesn't seem right ..whatever way u do it .. only the rich 24/7 ers will benefit.. buying almost everything for barr is an admission that the drop system has failed or not working properly... or on the other hand.. could just make drops a little more generous and forthcoming for all... anyway.. just an opinion personally would like to see an anvil boost to a guaranteed +3 ( only weps) by collecting a shit load of particles like last time as a way to gain valour scrolls..then the anvil upgrade activates... but said that b4 .. so..shushin That should keep ppl busy for a while.. gear up a bit, and hopefully the gm's have time to introduce new stuff x[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]A lot of players have mentioned a fair bit over last few weeks how the anvil has once again started to play dirty and been ripping majority of items going +3 so making the anvil +3 is worth discussing and not just brushed away.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]The anvil shouldn’t be +3 IMO. The only reason we’re seeing more fail at +3 is because it’s the first opportunity that an item can break opposed to before when it was possible at +1 and 2. That’s not rocket science to say we have more fails at +3 than we did before. Lupi I understand where you’re coming from but look at it from another view, people with 1000+ LL etc in their wh who will never sell them which hinders lower levels to catch up because drops aren’t being sold might be tempted to sell off maybe a few 100 to raise some money for whatever the shop is selling. That was the economy actually sees some life put into it. Don’t you agree with that? Yes people might have 500m saved in a wh, but just think that will soon disappear once they’ve started using Barr and they will soon be on an even keel with those who have a few mill saved up. The best suggestion mentioned in this is Zuzu’s, not every weap / upgrade / item should be in the store at any one time. Meaning you can’t just go spunk 500m on an intense nega weap and make a +8 weap through sheer numbers. I also think no double tabs should be added. I’d like to see, rare (maybe epic occasionally) nega weaps Epic shak weaps Rdt / dt / tow TP’s for different locations Tagged armor BB and Titus Ancient SR tokens Maybe SD’s to try and relieve the pressure on people only trading for SD’s and they would be a huge Barr sink. I think that would be all that I’d like to see off the top of my head. [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]well,.differing opinions .. no1 right or wrong... have to see what gm's might do x[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]Oh also valk stud necro sting vafer stud and troll rings. Virt mac lore. Forgot those. [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]main concern for me is ppl packing 60-70+ dex/ str acessories and maybe more from double tabs.. kinda renders the game virtually pointless.. for most .... so .. some tears / double tabs available for all with a bit of work.. not just for 24/7'rs and boss killers... maybe a bit of catch up from ideas above..and some solutions introduced in further updates with new gear double tabs way op .. no way to take them out now .. maybe some balance in future is possible apologies for repetition... seems only a problem for me hehe ...nvm x [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Ultimate bravery accessories plus double tabs...... Full set earring, necklace and 2x rings +8 your talking 88 str or 88 dex or 88 int, OP I would agree.[/quote]