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[quote="MIKELOWREY"][quote="TYRESE"]I understand what you’re saying there, but on the flip side imagine you had a tasty +7 bow which was already 460 recoil and perfectly fine for hunting and pvp, temptation gets the better of you and it died going +8, would you rather not have it back +8 and 460 recoil still? The idea of rerolling IMO seems the crazy one as if you had 100 EP and enough diamonds you’d make a +8 weap within 5mins, which is way too easy. There has to be some risk involved in the anvil, and if you’re lucky enough to get 7 actual rolls on toe / SS and the last one failed then atleast you get the item back. Imagine all those lower levels who use +2/3/4 items to hunt (there are a few of them about believe it or not) they would benefit from the +5’s which are faster than their current weaps which opens up a new market for trading. The ones which have 2/5 successes would end up in the npc but that’s not a huge loss to those of us who use the anvil a lot.[/quote] +1 to this. I can’t get my head around people being so upset if they had a poor +5 ghost item for instance, just NPC it if you hate it that much or stop upgrading it. For people with lesser gear it will mean they don’t break their best stuff and rage quit, or have to make backups for everything before they upgrade - which is incredibly drawn out and boring for the most part.[/quote]

[quote="WIPEOUT"]I agree a ghost up would be awesome. Imho these new weps are going to be extremely hard to get (valour farming) without the hoarde mode for the time being... Getting one then rippin+3 will be soul destroying [/quote]

[quote="BLUE_DRAGONS"]still dont like the ghost idea tbh if it happens am gone lol its fine as it is just just RNG still [/quote]

[quote="MIKELOWREY"][quote="BLUE_DRAGONS"]still dont like the ghost idea tbh if it happens am gone lol its fine as it is just just RNG still [/quote] What is it that you don’t like about it? Only reason I can see anyone disliking the idea is if they have maxed gear and wanna be a big fish in an absolute tiny pond (UC probs about 20 these days lol) or they’ve bought gear via real money and would be pissed they could’ve made similar gear a fair bit easier (and others will do so). I’m not saying that’s you Brain, just saying that’s the only 2 reason’s I can think of that make any sort of sense. 🤔 Also obviously it gained zero traction, but that re-roll on fail idea sounds absolutely horrendous.[/quote]

[quote="CORLEONE"]I see no decent reasoning behind the dislike of the ghost upgrade nor a better idea in this thread or anywhere else on the forum. [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]what maybe the downside , or not desirable effect with 'ghosting' is that it's 1 step behind gem's idea above....... will result in non failable +8's in time.... only benefit ppl with loads of items who will eventually make a +8 with 0 risk the +3 guaranteed .. will do the same thing.. but will involve some risk at the anvil with breakages. no guarantees .. just the +3 .. which is pretty decent if it was implemented.. so.. ppl worried bout breaking a new wep at +3 wouldnt need to worry.... a + 3 is probably serviceable/ useable... don;t see the problem with this idea tbh and no.. i dont have all +8 maxed shit.. just like to see things have some degree on chance and percentage of failure .. not just a guaranteed max wep ..eventually.. if u have enough gear. biggest future prob might be... gm's saying these new weps are gona be very hard/ expensive to get... with most regular/ active players already capped.. and wanting this new stuff ...if only a handful of players are going to be getting these new weps.... there could be a large percentage of players not getting them and getting peed off very fast..... let's not make the new weps to hard to get .. hopefully This... and some way of catching up stats that many maybe behind.. or atm have no way of catching up .. various stats ..would be a way of allowing some ''catch - up'' and not making new weps just for an elite few or.... ppl won't be happy for long uc is proly lower than it might because of the difficulty of getting top gear... needs to be spread around a bit and not made a necessity to to do bosses 24/7 maybe[/quote]

[quote="EDICIUS"]yes people would have +5/6/7/8 items. but those 6/7/8 upg with an ss could fail resulting in a big loss of an ss. just that u dont lose the item[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The “fake upgrade system” is a step back for me. I don’t want to see any fake + on any of my items, I want genuine real + on my items. If an item breaks so be it, would rather lose an item than see a fake + [/quote]

[quote="KAZOKU"]Don't mind a ghost upgrade Tho I would perfer just to up drops(makes hunting more enjoyable) gives more items for ppl to throw at the anvil (and dosnt feel like a massive waste of time when stuff fail)[/quote]

[quote="MIKELOWREY"]Raven it’s nice to see a more rational discussion from yourself in this thread, regarding the upgrade system. So the people against ghost upgrade’s don’t think it’d be detrimental to the community to implement (in fact it would be the complete opposite), they ‘just don’t like it’ for themselves. A solution for that would be if it’s implemented, any time you get a ghost fail just NPC the item - It’s the same result then, sorted. I’d agree that guaranteed +2 would need to be removed if the ghost system was brought in.[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Simple solution.... Have both the current upgrade system (let’s call it genuine for now ) and the ghost upgrade system ( let’s call it fake ) The genuine is the +2 100% success guarantee from 0 The fake just adds a +1 to the item upon failing ( no +2, start from 0) When you click on the anvil and click upgrade it gives you 2 options of upgrading, genuine or fake. Once you pick your upgrade system your locked out of the other upgrade option for life on your character. This way those that enjoy the genuine can still use it, those that want a warehouse full of shite can use the fake. All players happy and can continue playing soma without losing there preferred upgrading system. [/quote]

[quote="EDICIUS"]dont really see why any1 would be against it lol. if your unhappy then just npc the item. its a personal thing that you dont want it. but for the majority it would be a godsend. with the amount of people who have quit or take extended breaks due to losing there items i wouldnt think u wud be as selfish[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"][quote="EDICIUS"]dont really see why any1 would be against it lol. if your unhappy then just npc the item. its a personal thing that you dont want it. but for the majority it would be a godsend. with the amount of people who have quit or take extended breaks due to losing there items i wouldnt think u wud be as selfish[/quote] Me selfish, lmfao i would have rathered ghost up instead of 100% +2. broken yet another intense nega wep going +3 many months of grinding / saving / buying to be gone in less than 20 seconds. even if u only get 2 working up's in a ghost upped +5 wep it would still be usable. rather than rip You wasn’t happy with your +2 yet end by claiming it would still be usable, you took the risk and lost yet you’d be happy to have a +5 that was only a +2. Well you had your +2 and wasn’t happy with it, nobody held a gun to your head to try another upgrade, hypocrite.[/quote]

[quote="EDICIUS"]i already have +8 nega weps and pretty good gear. im not agreeing with the ghost upg part for myself. rather for other people[/quote]

[quote="R3COIL"]Why not just apply ghost upgrades to valour weps ONLY? Its not like theyre easy to acquire anyway. Literally takes from start to cap of a char to get an epic valour wep (using scrolls). Breaking an epic valour on +3, 4 or 5 - thats the type of shite that would make a player give up on soma. I dont think ghost upgrading should be applied to any other weps tho. [/quote]