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[quote="MINI_MANDELA"]80 + hours playtime and still 5 valour scrolls must be a good reason to keep it slow could be .. put some work in, do all the quests for valour and get yourself a weapon.. like a few have done. Make it +2.. But they can't realistically take it above +2 with not much hope of getting another. Possibly horde mode coming soon? Patience needed i guess A little info from the gm's goes a long way to keep the players happy and hopeful. A reasonable question might deserve an answer.. ? x . [/quote]

[quote="TEMEROSO"][quote="MIKELOWREY"]I don’t think the drop rate’s operate on a time invested scale Temeroso, nor do I think bric’s dropping Valour to a capped player (or anyone for that matter) is a great idea.[/quote] No but I’ve put 40+ hours in this week and haven’t got 1 valour scroll drop. And as above 80 hours for 5… I’m not saying brics should but if they dropped 50 in 80 hours that’s still horrible . . . . I know items can’t drop on a timed bases but it’s not hard to work out how often a item drops from a monster and make valour the same… The people who currently log in are playing around 5-10 hours a day and they’re all starting to feel disappointed in the valour situation. If these hardcore players are feeling like this how are the normal players feeling. It takes a lot of time to quest enough valour then it’s pretty much impossible to obtain any more…. I have to quest other characters to get new items 🤦‍♂️ Don’t know why everything is so god damn hard for everyone. Pray for horde [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]There is a lot of frustration at the moment for the majority of players still logging in to play soma. I could say now more players might have a sense of what crafters feel most of the time playing soma but that’s another discussion. Patience maybe required for the GM’s to sort the horde map out, but I think it wouldn’t hurt just for a short term to increase the valour scroll drop rates slightly. For those that already have a new valour weapon or any of the new champion armour parts your not helping the cause crying it’s slow going when your already in front of the rest of the server your just coming across as greedy.[/quote]

[quote="KAZOKU"]Ye, fully agree It's a silly situation atm 80 hours for 5 valor Scrolls I probly can manage 20 hours in a week, so I'd be looking at 2 valor from drops a week 20 hours % 7 days is just over 2hours a night (which is about right for me T6 is ever 4 hours so I can log in and completely miss the event or possibly do 1 That 1 will be at peek time so I'm probly looking at 1 valor if I catch the event So overall I'm probly looking at 6 valour a week(the quests are nice but you can only do them once) 6x75 weeks = 450 valor = 1 weap in 75 weeks (so 1 weap in 1 year and 23 weeks) Which means there's no point playing lol Even tho the hopes are pined on horde, there's still the worry that you will only be getting a couple of valor a night And all that's without taking into account of how lucky one going to be at the anvil[/quote]

[quote="MIKELOWREY"][quote="TEMEROSO"][quote="MIKELOWREY"]I don’t think the drop rate’s operate on a time invested scale Temeroso, nor do I think bric’s dropping Valour to a capped player (or anyone for that matter) is a great idea.[/quote] No but I’ve put 40+ hours in this week and haven’t got 1 valour scroll drop. And as above 80 hours for 5… I’m not saying brics should but if they dropped 50 in 80 hours that’s still horrible . . . . I know items can’t drop on a timed bases but it’s not hard to work out how often a item drops from a monster and make valour the same… The people who currently log in are playing around 5-10 hours a day and they’re all starting to feel disappointed in the valour situation. If these hardcore players are feeling like this how are the normal players feeling. It takes a lot of time to quest enough valour then it’s pretty much impossible to obtain any more…. I have to quest other characters to get new items 🤦‍♂️ Don’t know why everything is so god damn hard for everyone. Pray for horde [/quote] It actually would be pretty damn near impossible to implement a percentage that drops a certain item fairly rarely but reliably within a timeframe such an one per hour, there are so many variable’s involved with that I wouldn’t even know where to begin. Bric’s dropping valour at all would be horrendous IMO, let alone around 1 scroll every 2 hour’s. I’m not disputing anything else, sounds like valour is way too hard to get, just thought those particular points were pretty stupid. Then again I’ve seen these weapon’s and with the damage output people are gonna have soon, which isn’t gonna be countered by the armour anywhere near enough (or any time soon probably) - I’m surprised anyone wants to spend time farming as these items will surely destroy any remnant of balance. Each to their own though.[/quote]

[quote="CHOJINE"]The only way would be to make all endgame mobs drop a soul or something of that ilk upon each death, which when gathered into X amount can be traded in for valour. Most melee kill at a similar speed as do most mages. That would really be the only way you could drip valour in at a known rate. Say 100 spiders or Vafers = 1 as an arbitrary example. You could then surmise most players would get 2-4 valour a day minus quests or crystals. You would always get the hardcore that would kill 1000 in a day but that can be said of any method, you’ll get the people who do nigh on every T6 run. The benefit of this though would be guaranteed return on investment = more reason to play that extra hour.[/quote]

[quote="MINI_MANDELA"]the above, is similar to mobs that u gain stats from, drop life particles, that u can trade in for valour. Call them what u like, but the principle remains. tbf .. there's a relatively easy quest of killing 2.5k elders for a new armour piece, so not all bad .. just getting 1 wep nvm 2 is a mammoth task atm. This valour not being fast, or hard work isn't too much of a problem for players not capped yet, as they can just incorporate the levelling and valour finding at the same time. Capped players, on the other hand are putting in the hours and not getting very far. In the meantime, there's x2 drops so can't complain too much x[/quote]

[quote="ITS_HIM"]Any Gm interest in this would be nice.[/quote]

[quote="TEMEROSO"][quote="RAVENSOUL"] For those that already have a new valour weapon or any of the new champion armour parts your not helping the cause crying it’s slow going when your already in front of the rest of the server your just coming across as greedy.[/quote] Don’t be so silly …. It’s not our fault the game wasn’t ready for the patch was it….. I wouldn’t say spending 150+ hours since new patch to cap and gather all items to get one new item fast ….. or then a further 50 hours to re skill the weapon of choice…. I’m pointing out if someone like me and lupi and the others who have spent this much time are struggling to get items how are players like above who spend 2 hours a day ever going to get a new item? It’s myth of crafters pal people actually hunt and quest. [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]2 valour scrolls in 3 hours[/quote]

[quote="MIKELOWREY"]I love the ‘crying’ narrative around here, single digit IQ response to anyone voicing a concern/discussing an issue is ‘they’re crying’ lol - such a productive and well thought out response.[/quote]

[quote="MINI_MANDELA"]5 valour scrolls in 90 hours.. Don't confuse effort, time and hard work with greed. It's called playing the game and hoping for rewards. Made 60m barr and plenty of drops at elders in 60 hours.. Tho, in all those hours only 1 tagged nega wep. Seems to be some imbalance of weps dropping as well as the valour scrolls. Still, got 6 weeks of the event left, so maybe the gm's can tweak a few things. x[/quote]

[quote="4634"][quote="MINI_MANDELA"]5 valour scrolls in 90 hours.. Don't confuse effort, time and hard work with greed. It's called playing the game and hoping for rewards. Made 60m barr and plenty of drops at elders in 60 hours.. Tho, in all those hours only 1 tagged nega wep. Seems to be some imbalance of weps dropping as well as the valour scrolls. Still, got 6 weeks of the event left, so maybe the gm's can tweak a few things. x[/quote] -Half the hp of mags and elder mags -reorganise drops at mags/trolls/raps/spiders etc in accordance with new tier items - for example remove biter bone/ stinger tier armours and weapons at elder mags and have them at mags only -still not seeing many people level - consider 2x exp weekend? - make nega tear craftable - add the required items to damnned demons - maybe have a random spawn with ultama pus? [/quote]

[quote="MAXIMO"]Since 2x was implemented I had 2 valour scroll drop and all know I farm like crazy.[/quote]

[quote="EDICIUS"]it would actually be pretty easy to make it so you could get atleast 1 in an hour. while actively hunting. server could recognise the character and what there hunting. while hunting a timer runs. if you get a valour drop the timer resets. if not when it gets to 1 hour drop rate is 100% for a valour and it will reset. have the timer only run when attacking / magic attacking against mobs. [/quote]