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Just want to start by saying thank you to the GMs for keeping the game active. The community is a little disappointed no event for Easter but found out Monday dan has had corvid or moving house ?. Obviously Easter has gone now so not expecting anything.
Been informed 2x drops/rates are permanent. I also got told they are until the end of the month. Any confirm this please? Okay getting to my point sorry. There's no sign of horde mode. I feel mages are at disadvantage to warriors because valour weapon damage is insanely high. So competing has become even harder. I am happy where my gear is at. but i aint going to do a Tyrese and say i been playing this server for x amount of time i dont want competition kind of attitude. I really like the armours and weapons the cap removal of magic attack. I feel the game is very balanced but what i feel is causing an issue is the way the armour and gear is obtained. I think if nothing can be added to increase valour drops - dont know why 10-30 don't drop from nega or valk queen or ulti etc, or when dan comes in game new valour mobs when he does his event but if none of these are possible. I dont see why as an event you do a reduction on the cost of valour weapons Also what about adding Agree with Tyrese on his post regard : https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=44704&title=Replacement+hero+2+armor&Page=1
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[quote="4634"]Just want to start by saying thank you to the GMs for keeping the game active. The community is a little disappointed no event for Easter but found out Monday dan has had corvid or moving house ?. Obviously Easter has gone now so not expecting anything.
Been informed 2x drops/rates are permanent. I also got told they are until the end of the month. Any confirm this please?
Okay getting to my point sorry. There's no sign of horde mode. I feel mages are at disadvantage to warriors because valour weapon damage is insanely high. So competing has become even harder. I am happy where my gear is at. but i aint going to do a Tyrese and say i been playing this server for x amount of time i dont want competition kind of attitude. I really like the armours and weapons the cap removal of magic attack. I feel the game is very balanced but what i feel is causing an issue is the way the armour and gear is obtained.
I think if nothing can be added to increase valour drops - dont know why 10-30 don't drop from nega or valk queen or ulti etc, or when dan comes in game new valour mobs when he does his event but if none of these are possible. I dont see why as an event you do a reduction on the cost of valour weapons
Also what about adding
Agree with Tyrese on his post regard : https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=44704&title=Replacement+hero+2+armor&Page=1
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"4634"I feel mages are at disadvantage to warriors because valour weapon damage is insanely high. "4634"I feel the game is very balanced but what i feel is causing an issue is the way the armour and gear is obtained. You've no clue ! Valour weapons are 2/3 hitting people but its balanced... The champion armour is shit against valour weapons. they needed another 10def on each part. Mages can 2 bang other mages with same stats.... Mages can 1 bang melle yeah sounds very balanced... Keep botting ya Sds kidz
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[quote="MARMMOLE"][quote="4634"]I feel mages are at disadvantage to warriors because valour weapon damage is insanely high.
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[quote="4634"]I feel the game is very balanced but what i feel is causing an issue is the way the armour and gear is obtained.
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You've no clue ! Valour weapons are 2/3 hitting people but its balanced... The champion armour is shit against valour weapons. they needed another 10def on each part.
Mages can 2 bang other mages with same stats.... Mages can 1 bang melle
yeah sounds very balanced...
Keep botting ya Sds kidz [/quote]
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#2 2022/04/20 12:32:48 |
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"MARMMOLE""4634"I feel mages are at disadvantage to warriors because valour weapon damage is insanely high."4634"I feel the game is very balanced but what i feel is causing an issue is the way the armour and gear is obtained. What tag using? You stuck new fp on it to buff the defence see u mention ten 3 new fp - 9-9 + epic tags etc Mages have always 2 banged and 1 banged. Obviously you wear magic defence or play better
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[quote="4634"][quote="MARMMOLE"][quote="4634"]I feel mages are at disadvantage to warriors because valour weapon damage is insanely high.
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[quote="4634"]I feel the game is very balanced but what i feel is causing an issue is the way the armour and gear is obtained.
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You've no clue ! Valour weapons are 2/3 hitting people but its balanced... The champion armour is shit against valour weapons. they needed another 10def on each part.
Mages can 2 bang other mages with same stats.... Mages can 1 bang melle
yeah sounds very balanced...
Keep botting ya Sds kidz [/quote]
What tag using?
You stuck new fp on it to buff the defence see u mention ten 3 new fp - 9-9 + epic tags etc
Mages have always 2 banged and 1 banged. Obviously you wear magic defence or play better
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#3 2022/04/20 12:51:59 |
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Clearly got on the Malibu when you posted this or on the other thread. You agree with my idea here yet say it’s rubbish on the thread itself. Have you gone full Lupi finally?
Firstly, you have no idea about balance, you simply want things which will benefit yourself. Secondly I don’t agree that the armor and weaps are too hard to get once you’ve done all the quests. But the idea of current bosses dropping 10-30 valour is terrible, theee bosses can be killed within minutes. If a boss was to be dropping valour in large quantities it would need to be a super boss taking 1 hour+ to kill needing team work from all sides to kill it. Your assumption that I don’t want competition on the server is daft, what’s the point in playing if you’ve got nobody to compete against? I don’t think valour weaps or champ armor should drop from mobs or bosses, I simply think that you should learn to spend your valour wisely to better suit what your needs are. I go for weapons because I like being a high damage dealer, if you want better defense then I suggest you spend your valour on armor, it’s that simple.
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[quote="TYRESE"]Clearly got on the Malibu when you posted this or on the other thread. You agree with my idea here yet say it’s rubbish on the thread itself. Have you gone full Lupi finally?
Firstly, you have no idea about balance, you simply want things which will benefit yourself.
Secondly I don’t agree that the armor and weaps are too hard to get once you’ve done all the quests. But the idea of current bosses dropping 10-30 valour is terrible, theee bosses can be killed within minutes. If a boss was to be dropping valour in large quantities it would need to be a super boss taking 1 hour+ to kill needing team work from all sides to kill it.
Your assumption that I don’t want competition on the server is daft, what’s the point in playing if you’ve got nobody to compete against? I don’t think valour weaps or champ armor should drop from mobs or bosses, I simply think that you should learn to spend your valour wisely to better suit what your needs are. I go for weapons because I like being a high damage dealer, if you want better defense then I suggest you spend your valour on armor, it’s that simple. [/quote]
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"TYRESE"Clearly got on the Malibu when you posted this or on the other thread. You agree with my idea here yet say it’s rubbish on the thread itself. Have you gone full Lupi finally? 1: I was just doing what u doing and trolling i actually i do like your idea. 2 when your manipulating CTF, nega runs etc- then yes you most probbaly do a 100 valour a week but horde mode is going to be giving 50 a day ......and we dont get every nega or boss they dont spawn that often and not the same person would get it too many people geared. Bosses do die in 10-20 minutes but i am talking big bosses valk queen,- every few days 50 valour drop nega mare10 valour drop etc - if horde is going to be 50 on average a day? 3) you got gear free with capped crafted players etc and you always stopping less geared people from competing makes no diff to me now i give u on my store character easy. I would like to see you actually be able to kill a nega and compete.
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[quote="4634"][quote="TYRESE"]Clearly got on the Malibu when you posted this or on the other thread. You agree with my idea here yet say it’s rubbish on the thread itself. Have you gone full Lupi finally?
Firstly, you have no idea about balance, you simply want things which will benefit yourself.
Secondly I don’t agree that the armor and weaps are too hard to get once you’ve done all the quests. But the idea of current bosses dropping 10-30 valour is terrible, theee bosses can be killed within minutes. If a boss was to be dropping valour in large quantities it would need to be a super boss taking 1 hour+ to kill needing team work from all sides to kill it.
Your assumption that I don’t want competition on the server is daft, what’s the point in playing if you’ve got nobody to compete against? I don’t think valour weaps or champ armor should drop from mobs or bosses, I simply think that you should learn to spend your valour wisely to better suit what your needs are. I go for weapons because I like being a high damage dealer, if you want better defense then I suggest you spend your valour on armor, it’s that simple. [/quote]
1: I was just doing what u doing and trolling i actually i do like your idea.
2 when your manipulating CTF, nega runs etc- then yes you most probbaly do a 100 valour a week but horde mode is going to be giving 50 a day ......and we dont get every nega or boss they dont spawn that often and not the same person would get it too many people geared. Bosses do die in 10-20 minutes but i am talking big bosses valk queen,- every few days 50 valour drop nega mare10 valour drop etc - if horde is going to be 50 on average a day?
3) you got gear free with capped crafted players etc and you always stopping less geared people from competing makes no diff to me now i give u on my store character easy. I would like to see you actually be able to kill a nega and compete. [/quote]
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#5 2022/04/20 15:05:18 |
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Your assumption that I don’t want competition on the server is daft, what’s the point in playing if you’ve got nobody to compete against? I don’t think valour weaps or champ armor should drop from mobs or bosses, I simply think that you should learn to spend your valour wisely to better suit what your needs are. I go for weapons because I like being a high damage dealer, if you want better defense then I suggest you spend your valour on armor, it’s that simple. rofl i got weapons and armours. like i said it dont benefit me at all. feel free to bring any of characters ni game to test. The above person said the defence isnt high enough on champion armour hence i said add new fort plates - i agree with u sadly the defence is plenty.
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Your assumption that I don’t want competition on the server is daft, what’s the point in playing if you’ve got nobody to compete against? I don’t think valour weaps or champ armor should drop from mobs or bosses, I simply think that you should learn to spend your valour wisely to better suit what your needs are. I go for weapons because I like being a high damage dealer, if you want better defense then I suggest you spend your valour on armor, it’s that simple.
rofl i got weapons and armours. like i said it dont benefit me at all. feel free to bring any of characters ni game to test.
The above person said the defence isnt high enough on champion armour hence i said add new fort plates - i agree with u sadly the defence is plenty.
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#6 2022/04/20 15:07:10 |
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Lol you make no sense whatsoever.
Nega, valk queen, garshuk and ultimapus can all be killed within 5mins. So no, your idea of them dropping lots of valour is terrible. I got a 200 weap skill crafter and did my pot and cook the legit way, not like your botting days of ‘alt tabbing out’ and running round while your bot malfunctioned. I never stop neutrals from attending bosses, nor do I pk neutral to stop them hunting for items to compete, that’s all on you. Don’t class me in the same bracket as you 🤣 If you like an idea then just comment saying it’s a good idea, why be a dick when we all want the game to thrive?
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[quote="TYRESE"]Lol you make no sense whatsoever.
Nega, valk queen, garshuk and ultimapus can all be killed within 5mins. So no, your idea of them dropping lots of valour is terrible.
I got a 200 weap skill crafter and did my pot and cook the legit way, not like your botting days of ‘alt tabbing out’ and running round while your bot malfunctioned.
I never stop neutrals from attending bosses, nor do I pk neutral to stop them hunting for items to compete, that’s all on you. Don’t class me in the same bracket as you 🤣
If you like an idea then just comment saying it’s a good idea, why be a dick when we all want the game to thrive?
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#7 2022/04/20 16:06:12 |
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"TYRESE"Lol you make no sense whatsoever. 1) did i say add it to every monster no and lots is subjective id add 5 - 10 valour to ulti and nega, -= they just example it was just a suggestion as no1 really logging on for 2x, people i feel r waiting on horde. I also said make it a temporary event as we didnt have an easter event. 2) no u just had sme1 else pay a pilot who botted it and u got given it for free with free gear 3) you would actually need to spend time in game for that - rather than manipulating events to get your valour up on dsoma and hsmoa. Gm only has to attend or look at valour gains on last few ctfs. 4) because i was doing what u do to me.
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[quote="4634"][quote="TYRESE"]Lol you make no sense whatsoever.
Nega, valk queen, garshuk and ultimapus can all be killed within 5mins. So no, your idea of them dropping lots of valour is terrible.
I got a 200 weap skill crafter and did my pot and cook the legit way, not like your botting days of ‘alt tabbing out’ and running round while your bot malfunctioned.
I never stop neutrals from attending bosses, nor do I pk neutral to stop them hunting for items to compete, that’s all on you. Don’t class me in the same bracket as you 🤣
If you like an idea then just comment saying it’s a good idea, why be a dick when we all want the game to thrive?
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1) did i say add it to every monster no and lots is subjective id add 5 - 10 valour to ulti and nega, -= they just example it was just a suggestion as no1 really logging on for 2x, people i feel r waiting on horde. I also said make it a temporary event as we didnt have an easter event.
2) no u just had sme1 else pay a pilot who botted it and u got given it for free with free gear
3) you would actually need to spend time in game for that - rather than manipulating events to get your valour up on dsoma and hsmoa. Gm only has to attend or look at valour gains on last few ctfs.
4) because i was doing what u do to me.
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"4634""TYRESE"Lol you make no sense whatsoever. Also dont see the issue with a few valour here and there - i mean if each p[layer gets 40--50 valour a day at horde for literally killing easy stuff - why not add it to bosses that require competition
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[quote="4634"][quote="4634"][quote="TYRESE"]Lol you make no sense whatsoever.
Nega, valk queen, garshuk and ultimapus can all be killed within 5mins. So no, your idea of them dropping lots of valour is terrible.
I got a 200 weap skill crafter and did my pot and cook the legit way, not like your botting days of ‘alt tabbing out’ and running round while your bot malfunctioned.
I never stop neutrals from attending bosses, nor do I pk neutral to stop them hunting for items to compete, that’s all on you. Don’t class me in the same bracket as you 🤣
If you like an idea then just comment saying it’s a good idea, why be a dick when we all want the game to thrive?
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1) did i say add it to every monster no and lots is subjective id add 5 - 10 valour to ulti and nega, -= they just example it was just a suggestion as no1 really logging on for 2x, people i feel r waiting on horde. I also said make it a temporary event as we didnt have an easter event.
2) no u just had sme1 else pay a pilot who botted it and u got given it for free with free gear
3) you would actually need to spend time in game for that - rather than manipulating events to get your valour up on dsoma and hsmoa. Gm only has to attend or look at valour gains on last few ctfs.
4) because i was doing what u do to me.
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Also dont see the issue with a few valour here and there - i mean if each p[layer gets 40--50 valour a day at horde for literally killing easy stuff - why not add it to bosses that require competition
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#9 2022/04/20 16:38:39 |
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ALL BOSSES DROP VALOUR ALREADY 🤣
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"TYRESE"ALL BOSSES DROP VALOUR ALREADY 🤣 yeh they do in a very non enjoyable manner or any way that is psychologically stimulating in any manner unless there's competition tho u do hide behind devils. The reason i said its so boring as it is cos of how rare it is, and the corresponding drops not the nega tier obviously but i dont wanna go to nega for a psychobow or pan claw, i wanted them removed when nega was the top tier, At the end of the day the tiers of armours and weapons have changed. Vaour prices, boss drops should reflect this - going off ont he tangent here - add sds to bosses/mags etc to You say me and lupi are delusional you dont even do a nega run unless you have significant number of devils behind you. You log on for ctf when the devils are on there. I dont think i seen u at a gvw - maybe 1-2 but nothing regular. I dont see you at nega, at sacred stone, - i thought you played to compete? just quoting you on what you said earlier: "Your assumption that I don’t want competition on the server is daft, what’s the point in playing if you’ve got nobody to compete against?" Please tell me what you compete in and what you do for the community other than troll posts and maybe log on for the odd gvw ? All i see from your side is players that dont play or say they care bout the game- implement or deter changes that would actually benefit people who dont play as often so they can bring some competition or get some trades going in the game etc. You are correct though nothing else needs to be said
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[quote="4634"][quote="TYRESE"]ALL BOSSES DROP VALOUR ALREADY 🤣
I don’t need to say anymore, your just as delusional as Lupi.[/quote]
yeh they do in a very non enjoyable manner or any way that is psychologically stimulating in any manner unless there's competition tho u do hide behind devils. The reason i said its so boring as it is cos of how rare it is, and the corresponding drops not the nega tier obviously but i dont wanna go to nega for a psychobow or pan claw, i wanted them removed when nega was the top tier,
At the end of the day the tiers of armours and weapons have changed. Vaour prices, boss drops should reflect this - going off ont he tangent here - add sds to bosses/mags etc to
You say me and lupi are delusional you dont even do a nega run unless you have significant number of devils behind you. You log on for ctf when the devils are on there. I dont think i seen u at a gvw - maybe 1-2 but nothing regular. I dont see you at nega, at sacred stone, - i thought you played to compete? just quoting you on what you said earlier:
"Your assumption that I don’t want competition on the server is daft, what’s the point in playing if you’ve got nobody to compete against?"
Please tell me what you compete in and what you do for the community other than troll posts and maybe log on for the odd gvw ?
All i see from your side is players that dont play or say they care bout the game- implement or deter changes that would actually benefit people who dont play as often so they can bring some competition or get some trades going in the game etc.
You are correct though nothing else needs to be said
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What are the costs for these valour weapons and armour.
How many valour scrolls/gold piles required for... Hard/rare/epic tag weapons? Hard/rare/epic tag armour helm/top/pads/boots? |
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"RAVENSOUL"What are the costs for these valour weapons and armour. 900k to 1.2million per a gold pile 15 gold piles 450 valour for epic valour weapon 10 Gold piles 300 valour for rare valour weapon 5 gold piles 150 valour for a hardened valour weapon Armour: 5 gold pile 300 valour for epic armour 3 gold pile 200 valour for rare armour 1 gold pile 150 valour for harden. there are like 3-4 armour quests A good start on the valour quest not sure of exact figure 500-600 maybe. but not all quests are desirable and some expensive some are really fun. Valour drops at: bosses 1 valour given if dropped daily 1 valour crystal run 1 valour Hunting monster relevant to stats/level - 1 valour during horde mode tests: was roughly 30-50 valour i had per a run so that could be 30-50 a day But obviously need bars and sds etc to farm for the anvil to break or make.
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[quote="KAREN_RESE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]What are the costs for these valour weapons and armour.
How many valour scrolls/gold piles required for...
Hard/rare/epic tag weapons?
Hard/rare/epic tag armour helm/top/pads/boots?[/quote]
900k to 1.2million per a gold pile
15 gold piles 450 valour for epic valour weapon
10 Gold piles 300 valour for rare valour weapon
5 gold piles 150 valour for a hardened valour weapon
Armour:
5 gold pile 300 valour for epic armour
3 gold pile 200 valour for rare armour
1 gold pile 150 valour for harden.
there are like 3-4 armour quests
A good start on the valour quest not sure of exact figure 500-600 maybe. but not all quests are desirable and some expensive some are really fun.
Valour drops at:
bosses 1 valour given if dropped
daily 1 valour
crystal run 1 valour
Hunting monster relevant to stats/level - 1 valour
during horde mode tests:
was roughly 30-50 valour i had per a run so that could be 30-50 a day
But obviously need bars and sds etc to farm for the anvil to break or make.
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900k to 1.2million per a gold pile
15 gold piles 450 valour for epic valour weapon 10 Gold piles 300 valour for rare valour weapon 5 gold piles 150 valour for a hardened valour weapon Armour: 5 gold pile 300 valour for epic armour 3 gold pile 200 valour for rare armour 1 gold pile 150 valour for harden. there are like 3-4 armour quests And the above is in part as to why the UC has suffered since there implementation came about. Way over priced on Barr, valour scrolls and actually time needed to invest to put most casual players off from the start and it did by a large amount of players leaving when these arrived in game. I roughly remember seeing some of the quests for valour scrolls or possibly armour parts, the collection quest of so many items etc.... some of them where so overly priced they came across as an absolute piss take...... Large diamond plus whatever for x or y Scorpion essence (untradable) that at times can take days/weeks to get plus whatever for x or y Legendary cook book ( again an item that can be very rare to drop at times) Plus many more I can’t remember, all this is what I call making things harder to obtain or trying to limit who can have becomes less fun and more like a full time job add to putting players off. I’ve said in the past that the idea was a decent one to a degree but I stand by that it went completely against how soma is and should be for acquiring armours/weapons. On paper great twist to try give players a goal/target but very poorly executed especially since the main way of obtaining these valour scrolls was/is hoard mode/map and still waiting for it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing they say, maybe the valour weapons/armour shouldn’t have been put in game till the masterpiece of the hoard mode/map was actually ready, just a thought.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]900k to 1.2million per a gold pile
15 gold piles 450 valour for epic valour weapon
10 Gold piles 300 valour for rare valour weapon
5 gold piles 150 valour for a hardened valour weapon
Armour:
5 gold pile 300 valour for epic armour
3 gold pile 200 valour for rare armour
1 gold pile 150 valour for harden.
there are like 3-4 armour quests
And the above is in part as to why the UC has suffered since there implementation came about.
Way over priced on Barr, valour scrolls and actually time needed to invest to put most casual players off from the start and it did by a large amount of players leaving when these arrived in game.
I roughly remember seeing some of the quests for valour scrolls or possibly armour parts, the collection quest of so many items etc.... some of them where so overly priced they came across as an absolute piss take......
Large diamond plus whatever for x or y
Scorpion essence (untradable) that at times can take days/weeks to get plus whatever for x or y
Legendary cook book ( again an item that can be very rare to drop at times)
Plus many more I can’t remember, all this is what I call making things harder to obtain or trying to limit who can have becomes less fun and more like a full time job add to putting players off.
I’ve said in the past that the idea was a decent one to a degree but I stand by that it went completely against how soma is and should be for acquiring armours/weapons.
On paper great twist to try give players a goal/target but very poorly executed especially since the main way of obtaining these valour scrolls was/is hoard mode/map and still waiting for it.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing they say, maybe the valour weapons/armour shouldn’t have been put in game till the masterpiece of the hoard mode/map was actually ready, just a thought.[/quote]
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"RAVENSOUL"900k to 1.2million per a gold pile That’s rieally useful and insightful I hope y comments like this are taken seriously. I would like to see amendenments in current drops to fix some of the things u said
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[quote="4634"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]900k to 1.2million per a gold pile
15 gold piles 450 valour for epic valour weapon
10 Gold piles 300 valour for rare valour weapon
5 gold piles 150 valour for a hardened valour weapon
Armour:
5 gold pile 300 valour for epic armour
3 gold pile 200 valour for rare armour
1 gold pile 150 valour for harden.
there are like 3-4 armour quests
And the above is in part as to why the UC has suffered since there implementation came about.
Way over priced on Barr, valour scrolls and actually time needed to invest to put most casual players off from the start and it did by a large amount of players leaving when these arrived in game.
I roughly remember seeing some of the quests for valour scrolls or possibly armour parts, the collection quest of so many items etc.... some of them where so overly priced they came across as an absolute piss take......
Large diamond plus whatever for x or y
Scorpion essence (untradable) that at times can take days/weeks to get plus whatever for x or y
Legendary cook book ( again an item that can be very rare to drop at times)
Plus many more I can’t remember, all this is what I call making things harder to obtain or trying to limit who can have becomes less fun and more like a full time job add to putting players off.
I’ve said in the past that the idea was a decent one to a degree but I stand by that it went completely against how soma is and should be for acquiring armours/weapons.
On paper great twist to try give players a goal/target but very poorly executed especially since the main way of obtaining these valour scrolls was/is hoard mode/map and still waiting for it.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing they say, maybe the valour weapons/armour shouldn’t have been put in game till the masterpiece of the hoard mode/map was actually ready, just a thought.[/quote]
That’s rieally useful and insightful I hope y comments like this are taken seriously. I would like to see amendenments in current drops to fix some of the things u said
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