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Valour shop changes

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With recent changes to the valour shop coming out of nowhere I think a discussion could be useful.

Personally my views are if you want to gamble at 150 valour for the chance of an epic weapon that’s fine.

I also think there should be the option of buying an epic outright with 450 valour.

There will be players out there who have saved 450 (especially Dsoma as they haven’t had conti in a while) who now may only end up with 3 x hard weapons instead of the one epic they have saved for.

Having work done to the game is brilliant, can’t grumble with that. The problem I find is that some of these changes are brought in without any input from players, a forum post with a poll who would want what or reasons why it could be a problem would be ideal. Instead we’ve had a change which I feel puts all those players who haven’t already got a +8 or similar valour weapon at a huge disadvantage. Especially when you factor in that horde event is now only twice a week instead of multiple times a day.

Discuss away and let’s hear the feedback of the community to try and work out a solution which is best for soma.
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[quote="IMO"]With recent changes to the valour shop coming out of nowhere I think a discussion could be useful. Personally my views are if you want to gamble at 150 valour for the chance of an epic weapon that’s fine. I also think there should be the option of buying an epic outright with 450 valour. There will be players out there who have saved 450 (especially Dsoma as they haven’t had conti in a while) who now may only end up with 3 x hard weapons instead of the one epic they have saved for. Having work done to the game is brilliant, can’t grumble with that. The problem I find is that some of these changes are brought in without any input from players, a forum post with a poll who would want what or reasons why it could be a problem would be ideal. Instead we’ve had a change which I feel puts all those players who haven’t already got a +8 or similar valour weapon at a huge disadvantage. Especially when you factor in that horde event is now only twice a week instead of multiple times a day. Discuss away and let’s hear the feedback of the community to try and work out a solution which is best for soma. [/quote]
"IMO"With recent changes to the valour shop coming out of nowhere I think a discussion could be useful.

Personally my views are if you want to gamble at 150 valour for the chance of an epic weapon that’s fine.

I also think there should be the option of buying an epic outright with 450 valour.

There will be players out there who have saved 450 (especially Dsoma as they haven’t had conti in a while) who now may only end up with 3 x hard weapons instead of the one epic they have saved for.

Having work done to the game is brilliant, can’t grumble with that. The problem I find is that some of these changes are brought in without any input from players, a forum post with a poll who would want what or reasons why it could be a problem would be ideal. Instead we’ve had a change which I feel puts all those players who haven’t already got a +8 or similar valour weapon at a huge disadvantage. Especially when you factor in that horde event is now only twice a week instead of multiple times a day.

Discuss away and let’s hear the feedback of the community to try and work out a solution which is best for soma.


I already raised this with Finito and he seemed resolute in his decision to make this change. I do not think there is any harm in discussing it so the GMs can see constructive feedback. However, the new system is fair (with the exception of the fact it harms those who have saved specifically for an epic under the previous system).
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[quote="ECCO2K"][quote="IMO"]With recent changes to the valour shop coming out of nowhere I think a discussion could be useful. Personally my views are if you want to gamble at 150 valour for the chance of an epic weapon that’s fine. I also think there should be the option of buying an epic outright with 450 valour. There will be players out there who have saved 450 (especially Dsoma as they haven’t had conti in a while) who now may only end up with 3 x hard weapons instead of the one epic they have saved for. Having work done to the game is brilliant, can’t grumble with that. The problem I find is that some of these changes are brought in without any input from players, a forum post with a poll who would want what or reasons why it could be a problem would be ideal. Instead we’ve had a change which I feel puts all those players who haven’t already got a +8 or similar valour weapon at a huge disadvantage. Especially when you factor in that horde event is now only twice a week instead of multiple times a day. Discuss away and let’s hear the feedback of the community to try and work out a solution which is best for soma. [/quote] I already raised this with Finito and he seemed resolute in his decision to make this change. I do not think there is any harm in discussing it so the GMs can see constructive feedback. However, the new system is fair (with the exception of the fact it harms those who have saved specifically for an epic under the previous system). [/quote]
be nice to know what the percentages are for a roll..................
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[quote="BIGBERT"]be nice to know what the percentages are for a roll..................[/quote]
If the chances are the same as when u buy a wep from blacksmith they are fairly ok but not 1/3 for epic imo

*edit* For clarity when u get a wep from blacksmith u now have a chance of it being tagged
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[quote="BIGSHOW"]If the chances are the same as when u buy a wep from blacksmith they are fairly ok but not 1/3 for epic imo *edit* For clarity when u get a wep from blacksmith u now have a chance of it being tagged[/quote]
add intense to the selection of 150
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[quote="MY_UNICORN"]add intense to the selection of 150[/quote]
"MY_UNICORN"add intense to the selection of 150


Actually is a good idea. Those who dream of perfection will gamble for intense can do, and those who want to play it safe and pay 3x more can for an epic tag.
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[quote="IMO"][quote="MY_UNICORN"]add intense to the selection of 150[/quote] Actually is a good idea. Those who dream of perfection will gamble for intense can do, and those who want to play it safe and pay 3x more can for an epic tag. [/quote]
hard - intense on 150
rare - epic on 250

so you have an option
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[quote="PHARMA"]hard - intense on 150 rare - epic on 250 so you have an option[/quote]
"PHARMA"hard - intense on 150
rare - epic on 250

so you have an option


why would u have the rare-epic for 250 it should be 200 not 100more
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[quote="JAINA"][quote="PHARMA"]hard - intense on 150 rare - epic on 250 so you have an option[/quote] why would u have the rare-epic for 250 it should be 200 not 100more [/quote]
you have a minimum of rare tag so 250 seems appropriate. considering 300 was a rare previously
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[quote="PHARMA"]you have a minimum of rare tag so 250 seems appropriate. considering 300 was a rare previously[/quote]
"PHARMA"you have a minimum of rare tag so 250 seems appropriate. considering 300 was a rare previously


So why not do

Hard - Epic for 150

Rare - Intense for 250
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[quote="ECCO2K"][quote="PHARMA"]you have a minimum of rare tag so 250 seems appropriate. considering 300 was a rare previously[/quote] So why not do Hard - Epic for 150 Rare - Intense for 250[/quote]
because he wants his 50% chance epic rather than the % it is now
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[quote="JAINA"]because he wants his 50% chance epic rather than the % it is now[/quote]
LOL i dont want anything. was a reasonable suggestion. if anything i would say 150 random and also return the 300-450 guaranteed ones. but thats just my opinion. after every1 kickin about with epic/intense to change now is a bit daft
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[quote="PHARMA"]LOL i dont want anything. was a reasonable suggestion. if anything i would say 150 random and also return the 300-450 guaranteed ones. but thats just my opinion. after every1 kickin about with epic/intense to change now is a bit daft[/quote]
Would much rather 150 random for those that want the risk

AND

300/450 as that way players that save more for one wep can get that.

I could get 3 random or save and guarantee myself one epic I want which feels fair to have both options.
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[quote="ANGRYLUCAS"]Would much rather 150 random for those that want the risk AND 300/450 as that way players that save more for one wep can get that. I could get 3 random or save and guarantee myself one epic I want which feels fair to have both options. [/quote]
"ANGRYLUCAS"Would much rather 150 random for those that want the risk

AND

300/450 as that way players that save more for one wep can get that.

I could get 3 random or save and guarantee myself one epic I want which feels fair to have both options.


Agree put epic back in,

Its not high numbers but if pulling t weps are same odds as pulling val weps when i bought 36 weps I got like 20 rare 15 hard and 1 epic.. so throwing combine odds in there realistically anyone who has epic valour wep currently has saved themselves a fuck ton of valour in the long run
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[quote="HOBBERZ"][quote="ANGRYLUCAS"]Would much rather 150 random for those that want the risk AND 300/450 as that way players that save more for one wep can get that. I could get 3 random or save and guarantee myself one epic I want which feels fair to have both options. [/quote] Agree put epic back in, Its not high numbers but if pulling t weps are same odds as pulling val weps when i bought 36 weps I got like 20 rare 15 hard and 1 epic.. so throwing combine odds in there realistically anyone who has epic valour wep currently has saved themselves a fuck ton of valour in the long run [/quote]
"HOBBERZ"
"ANGRYLUCAS"Would much rather 150 random for those that want the risk

AND

300/450 as that way players that save more for one wep can get that.

I could get 3 random or save and guarantee myself one epic I want which feels fair to have both options.


Agree put epic back in,

Its not high numbers but if pulling t weps are same odds as pulling val weps when i bought 36 weps I got like 20 rare 15 hard and 1 epic.. so throwing combine odds in there realistically anyone who has epic valour wep currently has saved themselves a fuck ton of valour in the long run


Finito said on discord the % chance was very similar for hard / rare / epic. Something like 35% hard / 33% rare / 32% epic.

I got an epic first go but that could just be a very lucky rng.

I'm still for having a guaranteed epic though.
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[quote="GENTOO"][quote="HOBBERZ"][quote="ANGRYLUCAS"]Would much rather 150 random for those that want the risk AND 300/450 as that way players that save more for one wep can get that. I could get 3 random or save and guarantee myself one epic I want which feels fair to have both options. [/quote] Agree put epic back in, Its not high numbers but if pulling t weps are same odds as pulling val weps when i bought 36 weps I got like 20 rare 15 hard and 1 epic.. so throwing combine odds in there realistically anyone who has epic valour wep currently has saved themselves a fuck ton of valour in the long run [/quote] Finito said on discord the % chance was very similar for hard / rare / epic. Something like 35% hard / 33% rare / 32% epic. I got an epic first go but that could just be a very lucky rng. I'm still for having a guaranteed epic though. [/quote]

 

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