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I’ve seen a few posts about this, but currently trying to get enough valour scrolls for weapons seems so difficult.
TOV is nearly always empty, there’s a few of us that do run it but we are not geared so the furthest we get if we are lucky is wave 5. That’s 9 scrolls for about 40 minutes if you’re solo and lucks on your side. We are doing hard rolls for weapons too as the epics are just not reachable would take a month or two to get the scrolls for one then you run the risk of it breaking before it gets to a speed where you can use it. Champion too, still not seen a single piece. I’ve seen screen shots of TOV where it’s packed and can see how it must have been a lot easier then, but with current user count newer players just don’t stand a chance once you’ve done all your quests for scrolls. There must be a way you fix this, any one got any ideas?
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[quote="LUCKY777"]I’ve seen a few posts about this, but currently trying to get enough valour scrolls for weapons seems so difficult.
TOV is nearly always empty, there’s a few of us that do run it but we are not geared so the furthest we get if we are lucky is wave 5. That’s 9 scrolls for about 40 minutes if you’re solo and lucks on your side.
We are doing hard rolls for weapons too as the epics are just not reachable would take a month or two to get the scrolls for one then you run the risk of it breaking before it gets to a speed where you can use it.
Champion too, still not seen a single piece.
I’ve seen screen shots of TOV where it’s packed and can see how it must have been a lot easier then, but with current user count newer players just don’t stand a chance once you’ve done all your quests for scrolls.
There must be a way you fix this, any one got any ideas?
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#1 2025/06/16 08:41:37 |
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UPGR4D3Z |
It’s a big problem, My advice is adding scrolls to elder mags, Vafers and spiders at the same or higher rather they use to be at.
I mean I find it odd that they were part of their drop files, allowed people to make weps they have today but then someone decided to take it out? -isn’t that really unfair to those who didn’t or haven’t made their desired weps yet? -because I know a lot of valor weps were made whilst scrolls were dropped by hunting mobs.
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[quote="UPGR4D3Z"]It’s a big problem, My advice is adding scrolls to elder mags, Vafers and spiders at the same or higher rather they use to be at.
I mean I find it odd that they were part of their drop files, allowed people to make weps they have today but then someone decided to take it out?
-isn’t that really unfair to those who didn’t or haven’t made their desired weps yet?
-because I know a lot of valor weps were made whilst scrolls were dropped by hunting mobs.[/quote]
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#2 2025/06/17 16:40:06 |
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KRONZY |
it is unfair but reality is theirs parts of the community who have weps and dont share same opinion ( not myself included) , you see tov is empty and its unfair for those who dont have weps, they shouldnt be gate kept and a solo way to earn them should be possible without having to rely on others.
so they flame every tov thread that gets put up due to childish vendettas
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[quote="KRONZY"]it is unfair but reality is theirs parts of the community who have weps and dont share same opinion ( not myself included) , you see tov is empty and its unfair for those who dont have weps, they shouldnt be gate kept and a solo way to earn them should be possible without having to rely on others.
so they flame every tov thread that gets put up due to childish vendettas[/quote]
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#3 2025/06/17 18:24:56 |
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LUCKY777 |
How about having scrolls drop from TOV mobs for the first 5 waves. Could help maybe get a few people to start doing it regular and then we have a chance at taking out the boss on wave 5.
I see people join TOV, then as soon as they see it’s just me or a couple of us they warp.
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[quote="LUCKY777"]How about having scrolls drop from TOV mobs for the first 5 waves. Could help maybe get a few people to start doing it regular and then we have a chance at taking out the boss on wave 5.
I see people join TOV, then as soon as they see it’s just me or a couple of us they warp.[/quote]
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#4 2025/06/18 07:31:00 |
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RAGINGRHINO |
It is a pain to spend weeks farming a hard roll and then the anvil bends you over.
It would be good to see them added to drops somewhere achievable or if TOV could scale to the users present, that might be harder to implement though. Maybe just change the Anvil, something like ‘IF USER = ‘RAGINGRHINO’ CHANCE OF SUCCESS = 99% ELSE NORMAL LOGIC’ Seems fair and I wasn’t greedy with only 99%.
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[quote="RAGINGRHINO"]It is a pain to spend weeks farming a hard roll and then the anvil bends you over.
It would be good to see them added to drops somewhere achievable or if TOV could scale to the users present, that might be harder to implement though.
Maybe just change the Anvil, something like ‘IF USER = ‘RAGINGRHINO’ CHANCE OF SUCCESS = 99% ELSE NORMAL LOGIC’
Seems fair and I wasn’t greedy with only 99%.
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#5 2025/06/18 12:19:13 |
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GUSSY |
TOV is dead for humans now unfortunately, one way would be to combine it so its devils and humans helping together or a simpler solution would be to just make scrolls droppable again as UPGR4D3Z suggested.
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#6 2025/06/18 15:11:34 |
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TROLLDROPS |
biggest problem is getting fin to agree and change things XD
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#7 2025/06/18 17:19:16 |
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RAVENSOUL |
The concept of TOV was a great idea but sadly there are far too many disadvantages with taking part in TOV.
Time, you have to be online at a specific time every 4 hours. If you actually are online to be able to join great but if you disconnect that’s it, your kicked out and another 4 hours to try again. Numbers, if your lucky enough to be online at the right time to join TOV then you also need players to be there to help each other progress working as a team. I said it before and many others said it too, moving the goal posts in progressing your character by placing restrictions would hurt soma and it has. You need multiple ways to gaining valour scrolls without having restrictions placed on players to continue your character’s journey. If you get disconnected you should be allowed to rejoin especially if you hadn’t been killed before the disconnection happened. Bringing human’s and devil’s together would help the situation but then they are supposed to be enemies but for the spirit of TOV I believe an exemption could be allowed. Scrolls of valour should be drop by elder mags, and the top tier mage and warrior mob for both races. I’ve never really understood why soma has so many brick walls implemented to frustrate and piss players off to the point that players feel what’s the fucking point logging on. Games are meant to be fun, to be a challenge, to progress your character. But if it’s made in a way to narrow the progress to the point of killing off any fun, then it’s game over.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The concept of TOV was a great idea but sadly there are far too many disadvantages with taking part in TOV.
Time, you have to be online at a specific time every 4 hours.
If you actually are online to be able to join great but if you disconnect that’s it, your kicked out and another 4 hours to try again.
Numbers, if your lucky enough to be online at the right time to join TOV then you also need players to be there to help each other progress working as a team.
I said it before and many others said it too, moving the goal posts in progressing your character by placing restrictions would hurt soma and it has.
You need multiple ways to gaining valour scrolls without having restrictions placed on players to continue your character’s journey.
If you get disconnected you should be allowed to rejoin especially if you hadn’t been killed before the disconnection happened.
Bringing human’s and devil’s together would help the situation but then they are supposed to be enemies but for the spirit of TOV I believe an exemption could be allowed.
Scrolls of valour should be drop by elder mags, and the top tier mage and warrior mob for both races.
I’ve never really understood why soma has so many brick walls implemented to frustrate and piss players off to the point that players feel what’s the fucking point logging on.
Games are meant to be fun, to be a challenge, to progress your character. But if it’s made in a way to narrow the progress to the point of killing off any fun, then it’s game over.[/quote]
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#8 2025/06/18 17:53:12 |
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"RAVENSOUL"The concept of TOV was a great idea but sadly there are far too many disadvantages with taking part in TOV. Couldn’t have worded it better myself , all this gate keeping of valour weapons and champ isn’t ideal , UC isn’t big enough for this current idea of tov and obtaining weps. Shouldn’t have to rely on other players to make progress to your own character. But anything we say feels like criticism or seems negative towards the work they put into tov , when it isn’t the case or intentionally said in this way , at this point sadly , the concept of tov is brilliant , just not with Low UC like right now, sadly I think their done making changes or putting any effort into this server.
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[quote="KAIZEN"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]The concept of TOV was a great idea but sadly there are far too many disadvantages with taking part in TOV.
Time, you have to be online at a specific time every 4 hours.
If you actually are online to be able to join great but if you disconnect that’s it, your kicked out and another 4 hours to try again.
Numbers, if your lucky enough to be online at the right time to join TOV then you also need players to be there to help each other progress working as a team.
I said it before and many others said it too, moving the goal posts in progressing your character by placing restrictions would hurt soma and it has.
You need multiple ways to gaining valour scrolls without having restrictions placed on players to continue your character’s journey.
If you get disconnected you should be allowed to rejoin especially if you hadn’t been killed before the disconnection happened.
Bringing human’s and devil’s together would help the situation but then they are supposed to be enemies but for the spirit of TOV I believe an exemption could be allowed.
Scrolls of valour should be drop by elder mags, and the top tier mage and warrior mob for both races.
I’ve never really understood why soma has so many brick walls implemented to frustrate and piss players off to the point that players feel what’s the fucking point logging on.
Games are meant to be fun, to be a challenge, to progress your character. But if it’s made in a way to narrow the progress to the point of killing off any fun, then it’s game over.[/quote]
Couldn’t have worded it better myself , all this gate keeping of valour weapons and champ isn’t ideal , UC isn’t big enough for this current idea of tov and obtaining weps.
Shouldn’t have to rely on other players to make progress to your own character.
But anything we say feels like criticism or seems negative towards the work they put into tov , when it isn’t the case or intentionally said in this way , at this point sadly , the concept of tov is brilliant , just not with Low UC like right now, sadly I think their done making changes or putting any effort into this server.[/quote]
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#9 2025/06/18 17:59:21 |
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NITE |
I mean I've also made a thread about this issue. Raven summed up pretty much whats wrong.
I would also like to add that MOST of us have full time Jobs, busy lives, kids etc so our time is limited. Im not gonna lie when I see peoples gears and weaps that they've made its a wee bit disheartening. for example: Full Champ sets of 16 dex or 16 str arm Wild Dex Accessories 360 recoil intense Bows of Valours and loads of Epics. I mean I just think about the time it would take me to catch up and think if its all worth it in the end. Right now as things stand with how hard it is to obtain Scrolls of Valour I can't see myself playing much as it would probably take me at least a year to make 1 Intense Valour bow under 400 recoil. Not to mention the Armour. But yeah food for thought maybe we need to make things easier to obtain as the UC (from what i've seen) is very low. I dont really know what would bring people back tbh. But yeah.
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[quote="NITE"]I mean I've also made a thread about this issue. Raven summed up pretty much whats wrong.
I would also like to add that MOST of us have full time Jobs, busy lives, kids etc so our time is limited. Im not gonna lie when I see peoples gears and weaps that they've made its a wee bit disheartening. for example:
Full Champ sets of 16 dex or 16 str arm
Wild Dex Accessories
360 recoil intense Bows of Valours and loads of Epics.
I mean I just think about the time it would take me to catch up and think if its all worth it in the end. Right now as things stand with how hard it is to obtain Scrolls of Valour I can't see myself playing much as it would probably take me at least a year to make 1 Intense Valour bow under 400 recoil. Not to mention the Armour.
But yeah food for thought maybe we need to make things easier to obtain as the UC (from what i've seen) is very low.
I dont really know what would bring people back tbh. But yeah.[/quote]
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#10 2025/06/18 23:38:24 |
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MIKELOWREY |
"NITE"I mean I've also made a thread about this issue. Raven summed up pretty much whats wrong. Just put the chips in the bag mate.
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[quote="MIKELOWREY"][quote="NITE"]I mean I've also made a thread about this issue. Raven summed up pretty much whats wrong.
I would also like to add that MOST of us have full time Jobs, busy lives, kids etc so our time is limited. Im not gonna lie when I see peoples gears and weaps that they've made its a wee bit disheartening. for example:
Full Champ sets of 16 dex or 16 str arm
Wild Dex Accessories
360 recoil intense Bows of Valours and loads of Epics.
I mean I just think about the time it would take me to catch up and think if its all worth it in the end. Right now as things stand with how hard it is to obtain Scrolls of Valour I can't see myself playing much as it would probably take me at least a year to make 1 Intense Valour bow under 400 recoil. Not to mention the Armour.
But yeah food for thought maybe we need to make things easier to obtain as the UC (from what i've seen) is very low.
I dont really know what would bring people back tbh. But yeah.[/quote]
Just put the chips in the bag mate.[/quote]
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#11 2025/06/19 08:49:13 |
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NITE |
"MIKELOWREY""NITE"I mean I've also made a thread about this issue. Raven summed up pretty much whats wrong. Aye my bad that'll be £12 please for your battered sausage and chips.
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[quote="NITE"][quote="MIKELOWREY"][quote="NITE"]I mean I've also made a thread about this issue. Raven summed up pretty much whats wrong.
I would also like to add that MOST of us have full time Jobs, busy lives, kids etc so our time is limited. Im not gonna lie when I see peoples gears and weaps that they've made its a wee bit disheartening. for example:
Full Champ sets of 16 dex or 16 str arm
Wild Dex Accessories
360 recoil intense Bows of Valours and loads of Epics.
I mean I just think about the time it would take me to catch up and think if its all worth it in the end. Right now as things stand with how hard it is to obtain Scrolls of Valour I can't see myself playing much as it would probably take me at least a year to make 1 Intense Valour bow under 400 recoil. Not to mention the Armour.
But yeah food for thought maybe we need to make things easier to obtain as the UC (from what i've seen) is very low.
I dont really know what would bring people back tbh. But yeah.[/quote]
Just put the chips in the bag mate.[/quote]
Aye my bad that'll be £12 please for your battered sausage and chips.
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#12 2025/06/19 10:35:00 |
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