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[quote="KILLUMINATI"]I'm sure plum was knuckler and capped 6months ago? [/quote]

[quote="HURRICANE"]she was but changed to axe to cap strength, which i dont know if she did or not.[/quote]

[quote="KILLUMINATI"]I think he changed to axe very late on tbh. [/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]Be interesting to see Gisado at cap. Basically the only real sword user of high level. The amount of str gained using axe is thick. You are basically forced to use axe+bow/knuck in order to play a melee char. [/quote]

[quote="TOLIC"]might be good for people to link their best Gorshak weps they have had, and then we can see what kind of stats they have and what type of weapon seems to be most commonly dropped.[/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]Pan seems to be common. And only sword I had I broke going +2. Because +1 d speed doesn't add up. :( If you scaled weapons up from knuckle then axe should be monster... Knuckle with its attack can operate at sub 500 recoil. 4th every 15 seconds or we makes it retarded for boss drops also. Vast majority of gorshak going to a knuckler with piss poor str. Melee boss mobs shouldn't have str where by you do 1 dmg at 171str and at 71str. The length of time it takes to kill should work with its hp. [/quote]

[quote="HURRICANE"][item post=42284 index=0][item post=42284 index=1] As u can see the attack is alot better with Bow, i dont think knuckle is over powered at all. Its the speed that makes the difference[/quote]

[quote="HURRICANE"][quote="IPHIOS"] Melee boss mobs shouldn't have str where by you do 1 dmg at 171str and at 71str. The length of time it takes to kill should work with its hp. [/quote] Disagree, gorshak is a good boss, and if this was the case, people with strength cap would be hitting more damage and getting most of the drops making it unfair for lower levels. Good Boss imo, nothing to be changed[/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]You were one of 4 piss poor str chars to which I referred to be fair. So a capped str char who uses axe and staff should eternally do one damage while the low levels kill these bosses? As the top boss - why shouldn't higher levels get the drops? Why should low level low str chars get them from a melee boss? Personally I have no use for Gorshak weapons as the swords are guff and I have a staff. Just saying.[/quote]

[quote="HURRICANE"]Well in that case no low levels would turn up, i wouldnt, and doubt most noobs wouldnt, and i really couldnt see 5str cap players killing gorshak alone. Gorshak requires alot of people to kill including noobs, which means every1 should have the same chance to get the drop. We all have the same chance its the luck of the draw. Your just very unlucky. Most higher levels are multis and pilots, why should they get drops? Basically paid to get top items if it goes that way[/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]Everyone should have a chance however 90% of kills are from 4th knuckle which doesn't add up. It's seldom luck of the draw rather than it is 4th knuckle doing it's guaranteed dmg every 15 seconds. Plum for example - appeared solo enough. Axe staff therefore likelihood is near nill. Is that ok? Not that multi bot pilot has fa to do with my point. [/quote]

[quote="HURRICANE"]Its all about timing of 4th, theres about 3 people that use knuckle on gorshak, me, garp and yoshi. There is about 10+ using 4th bow, which tbh makes a bow user more chance of the final hit, especially with bows 4th minimum damage. Its just about timing and the final 4th. None of this 15second regen time.[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"][quote="SATAN2"]Following that theory, looking at the top levels (nearing cap): Sword - Iphios Axe - Rare, Quimm, Lupi, Tolic, Ace (not sure if his second wep is still Axe) Bow - Ace, Style, Rare, Lupi, Tolic Spear - Ceo Staff - Quimm, Ceo, Style, Iphios, Acaelus Nux - None? Not sure what skill Lupi and Tolic have lost now that they've turned into mages. Also not sure what Acaelus' main wep is, other than staff. That would indicate the massive improvement to Nux was probably justified. Even despite the boost not a single top char uses it. The above would indicate sword and spear need a boost in the next round of weps too (if there are any plans to add more weps). Bow will always be the most popular purely because of the range. Axe will also be popular because of how good 5th is.[/quote] There are only so many people with axe because it is the best weapon for leveling str. Id personally say with the current stats on gore lancets (which are very good) its way better for pvp / damage and even boss killing than axe is. The problem is that there are only very few people who are currently 100 (People will only reskill weapons after cap generally) and skilling a weapon to be able to use gorshak weapon skill just takes a very large amount of hours. Give it time when more people are 100 and if skillign was easier, im sure a lot more people would pick up a spear. Spear most certainly does not need any kind of boost / increase. Not going to go into huge detail but the attack on knuk is way too high considering its speed and sword could use a slight attack increase imo [/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]You can't see its hp hurricane so the "it's just timing" is a ridiculous statement. It's the fact it's 25 damage or wherever it is every 15 seconds. It's been tried and tested. The vast majority of kills are from knuckle users. Don't even understand why that point is being debated. [/quote]

[quote="KILLUMINATI"]CEO done the most damage to me at wow with his spear. Nearly dropped me two hits...[/quote]