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HURRICANE |
Fuk sake phone predictive text! Glad* and powered*
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#16 2015/01/04 18:45:27 |
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JACKELPUP |
Yoshi +1 and Hurricane +1
8) Jac |
#17 2015/01/04 18:54:38 |
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S0RCERER |
Amusing the arguments for 100% eva - when the server was launched, patch notes indicates the evasion nerf was for EXACTLY this reason.
So you worked "hard" to get 100% evasion now? It's clearly what was trying to be avoided, so why would you be so against making it impossible (once again, as it was intended).
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Amusing the arguments for 100% eva - when the server was launched, patch notes indicates the evasion nerf was for EXACTLY this reason.
So you worked "hard" to get 100% evasion now? It's clearly what was trying to be avoided, so why would you be so against making it impossible (once again, as it was intended).[/quote]
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#18 2015/01/04 19:13:51 |
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"HURRICANE"Tbh I've put so much effort to get 100% on blg. 100% should be attainable due to the hard work gone into it. I've chose to go pure dex and I'm half I have. I will cap lvl with 97int because that's the way I want to go, if people are saying 100% is over powered, sorry but I can honestly say int is x10 more over powered. Like Yoshi says each stat u train has it's pros and cons, it's just the way u want to go. It's like saying 150craft is over powdered looking at secrets bow because no1 should be able to get +7 weps, but Elroy's put the hard work in and it's Have to say I agree with all of this.
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[quote="SATAN2"][quote="HURRICANE"]Tbh I've put so much effort to get 100% on blg. 100% should be attainable due to the hard work gone into it. I've chose to go pure dex and I'm half I have. I will cap lvl with 97int because that's the way I want to go, if people are saying 100% is over powered, sorry but I can honestly say int is x10 more over powered. Like Yoshi says each stat u train has it's pros and cons, it's just the way u want to go. It's like saying 150craft is over powdered looking at secrets bow because no1 should be able to get +7 weps, but Elroy's put the hard work in and it's
Paid off, that's how I see it.[/quote]
Have to say I agree with all of this.[/quote]
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#19 2015/01/04 19:17:38 |
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JACKELPUP |
So people have to work harder for evasion - when they manage it (if) why should they not be rewarded as such ?
Nerf or not, the GMs know what they are doing and if "extra work" is required and achieved then "fair play". Still Yoshi +1 and Hurricane +1 8) Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]So people have to work harder for evasion - when they manage it (if) why should they not be rewarded as such ?
Nerf or not, the GMs know what they are doing and if "extra work" is required and achieved then "fair play".
Still Yoshi +1 and Hurricane +1
8)
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#20 2015/01/04 19:45:12 |
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Didnt kno ppl had 100% eva on blg tbh.... wd... i nearly have...but not quite ^^
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#21 2015/01/04 20:22:42 |
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BLANK |
If I was putting the hours in and got to that level I would probably be eager for this too, afterall it was implemented in the game so why take it out.
The GMs are balancing the game for everybody and over the long term it would be more beneficial not to allow 100% evasion. May not be pleasing to higher levels but if its already been made clear at the start that it won't happen I don't see why it should be changed now.
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[quote="BLANK"]If I was putting the hours in and got to that level I would probably be eager for this too, afterall it was implemented in the game so why take it out.
The GMs are balancing the game for everybody and over the long term it would be more beneficial not to allow 100% evasion. May not be pleasing to higher levels but if its already been made clear at the start that it won't happen I don't see why it should be changed now.[/quote]
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#22 2015/01/04 20:35:22 |
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GANDALF |
never understood why the top melle mob (BLG) never had a magic based attack like the original top devil mob (WBM)
certainly needs addressing just a matter of how /gand |
#23 2015/01/04 20:39:33 |
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"S0RCERER"Amusing the arguments for 100% eva - when the server was launched, patch notes indicates the evasion nerf was for EXACTLY this reason. What he means is 100% is a shit load harder then getting min dmg. I used a healer at BLG from 80 str till around 105 STR/100 DEX and only then could i take 1 at time without a healer and using a full 6% set with around 107 DEX with access, then having healing after each one or use pots to stay alive. Whereas axe is an utter doddle due to massively overpowered PD and the STR gains. The server has been made a hell of a lot harder because of the evasion nerfs to reach 100%, but if it was totally unintended to gain 100% evasion on any monster, then why make evasion X(100%) in the first place on this server? Surely it'd make more sense to do X(95%) or X(60%)? But if you did that everyone would have just gone brute STR instantly. It's almost impossible to get 100% on any monster that will give you good gains anymore, the only one is BLG and even then, anyone who has got 100% will shortly be going axe to cap STR (Myself and Hurricane). The only acceptions I know of are Elric and J0ker as they're both mental. "GANDALF"never understood why the top melle mob (BLG) never had a magic based attack like the original top devil mob (WBM) It doesn't really make any difference to me, it will only effect people up and coming, but if you add a magic attack into the midst then it will just utterly rape peoples dura and force people to do INT to stop their magic attack not to hurt you.
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="S0RCERER"]Amusing the arguments for 100% eva - when the server was launched, patch notes indicates the evasion nerf was for EXACTLY this reason.
So you worked "hard" to get 100% evasion now? It's clearly what was trying to be avoided, so why would you be so against making it impossible (once again, as it was intended).[/quote]
What he means is 100% is a shit load harder then getting min dmg. I used a healer at BLG from 80 str till around 105 STR/100 DEX and only then could i take 1 at time without a healer and using a full 6% set with around 107 DEX with access, then having healing after each one or use pots to stay alive. Whereas axe is an utter doddle due to massively overpowered PD and the STR gains.
The server has been made a hell of a lot harder because of the evasion nerfs to reach 100%, but if it was totally unintended to gain 100% evasion on any monster, then why make evasion X(100%) in the first place on this server? Surely it'd make more sense to do X(95%) or X(60%)? But if you did that everyone would have just gone brute STR instantly. It's almost impossible to get 100% on any monster that will give you good gains anymore, the only one is BLG and even then, anyone who has got 100% will shortly be going axe to cap STR (Myself and Hurricane). The only acceptions I know of are Elric and J0ker as they're both mental.
[quote="GANDALF"]never understood why the top melle mob (BLG) never had a magic based attack like the original top devil mob (WBM)
certainly needs addressing just a matter of how
/gand[/quote]
It doesn't really make any difference to me, it will only effect people up and coming, but if you add a magic attack into the midst then it will just utterly rape peoples dura and force people to do INT to stop their magic attack not to hurt you.[/quote]
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#24 2015/01/04 20:41:00 |
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The game has not been made harder.
People are just absolutely hellbent on hunting monsters that are far above what they really should be hunting. It's happening on Dsoma too, people want to hunt WBM from 106str, turning their noses on Kharil Lizards. It's absolute stupidity. Evasion was nerfed so that nobody attained 100% evasion on the monsters they hunt, the fact that some people are now reaching it goes entirely against the reason for it being nerfed. What you fail to mention is that having 100% evasion on a target that has 112dex means you'll have close to 100% on others in PVP. Is that "fun"?
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[quote="S0RCERER"]The game has not been made harder.
People are just absolutely hellbent on hunting monsters that are far above what they really should be hunting.
It's happening on Dsoma too, people want to hunt WBM from 106str, turning their noses on Kharil Lizards.
It's absolute stupidity. Evasion was nerfed so that nobody attained 100% evasion on the monsters they hunt, the fact that some people are now reaching it goes entirely against the reason for it being nerfed.
What you fail to mention is that having 100% evasion on a target that has 112dex means you'll have close to 100% on others in PVP. Is that "fun"?[/quote]
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#25 2015/01/04 20:48:55 |
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Only real thoughts to this are that originally it was said nobody should get 100%.
Obviously the dex slow was removed and nobody thought about 100% Eva. To me, those that work for it enjoy it. Every char build has pros and cons. |
#26 2015/01/04 20:49:45 |
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JACKELPUP |
"BLANK" Please explain this ? I am not a higher level but would like to work towards 100% evasion .... It's already been nerfed, why should it be unobtainable ? Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="BLANK"]
The GMs are balancing the game for everybody and over the long term it would be more beneficial not to allow 100% evasion..[/quote]
Please explain this ?
I am not a higher level but would like to work towards 100% evasion ....
It's already been nerfed, why should it be unobtainable ?
Jac
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#27 2015/01/04 21:22:57 |
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"JACKELPUP"It's already been nerfed, why should it be unobtainable? Because that was the EXACT REASON it was nerfed. So that it could be unobtainable. Any other reason needed? Other than the specific reason for it? |
#28 2015/01/04 21:57:11 |
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JACKELPUP |
"Nerfed" doesn't mean destroyed - it means "harder"....
It's not unobtainable, just more effort needed ..... What's the detriment in that ... ? Jac |
#29 2015/01/04 22:01:36 |
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"SATAN2""HURRICANE"Tbh I've put so much effort to get 100% on blg. 100% should be attainable due to the hard work gone into it. I've chose to go pure dex and I'm half I have. I will cap lvl with 97int because that's the way I want to go, if people are saying 100% is over powered, sorry but I can honestly say int is x10 more over powered. Like Yoshi says each stat u train has it's pros and cons, it's just the way u want to go. It's like saying 150craft is over powdered looking at secrets bow because no1 should be able to get +7 weps, but Elroy's put the hard work in and it's \Agreed, i think we have to look at the reasons why eva was nurfed which was to prevent people from having 100% + massive attack power and fairly good defence from 4ths which is has.
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[quote="SKATT420"][quote="SATAN2"][quote="HURRICANE"]Tbh I've put so much effort to get 100% on blg. 100% should be attainable due to the hard work gone into it. I've chose to go pure dex and I'm half I have. I will cap lvl with 97int because that's the way I want to go, if people are saying 100% is over powered, sorry but I can honestly say int is x10 more over powered. Like Yoshi says each stat u train has it's pros and cons, it's just the way u want to go. It's like saying 150craft is over powdered looking at secrets bow because no1 should be able to get +7 weps, but Elroy's put the hard work in and it's
Paid off, that's how I see it.[/quote]
Have to say I agree with all of this.[/quote]
\Agreed, i think we have to look at the reasons why eva was nurfed which was to prevent people from having 100% + massive attack power and fairly good defence from 4ths which is has.
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