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[quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]all the best rich, ghostlord wont delete this cus everyone coming together and helping someone who cant do it now that sir is good ill fort ill never see something like this im glad i have can we get a pictrue of car seat when its there rich all the best mate :)[/quote]

[quote="RICHMICH"][quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]all the best rich, ghostlord wont delete this cus everyone coming together and helping someone who cant do it now that sir is good ill fort ill never see something like this im glad i have can we get a pictrue of car seat when its there rich all the best mate :)[/quote] Yeh I will post a photo when its sorted :) [/quote]

[quote="JPOT"]all the best rich buddy, nice to see people actually come together and help raise for such a good cause, i wish you and your niece the best and id love to see what the money raised has achieved x jack [/quote]

[quote="HELLLOO"]uptp £2500 for a car seat? What the hell man do you get a free car with it?! I hope it's Louis vuitton Also well done soma community for proving you're not all complete wankers[/quote]

[quote="KAIDONE"]It's such a shame scamming and lies are real because I genuinely thought zyar sounded like a cunt in the way he put it across however he is just saying what a certain % were thinking... worse things have been used to lure donators, however I do believe rich and had I seen this when you were taking the donations for the help ect I would of donated because god only knows how I would feel if my daughter was in a similar way, and the struggle could destroy peoples lives, as iphios said i'd take the 5% chance and hope I contributed to a good cause.[/quote]

[quote="ENKI"]wtf how can anyone call this guy a c*** ?!? stop being childish, he doesn't deserve it. Yeh maybe he made some silly posts, but only after half of soma jumped down his neck. [quote="RICHMICH"]I am not going to justify myself to Zyar, you can all take from his comments what you wish.[/quote] Sorry Rich but f your going to do something like this, and ask the public for help, whatever that may be, ofc you have to justify yourself, to everyone. [quote="ZYAR"]If you are serious about raising money for your neice.. make a serious, detailed project..[/quote] Zyar has made some valid points.. He was trying to help Rich with something constructive, he even [b]thanked him for it.[/b] I have also saved his template so thank you Zyar! One of the only helpful post on this thread. Its a shame but good-hearted people get scammed all the time, it happens. People, you can't blame anyone for being abit sceptical. [quote="BL00D_SHOT"]I think anyone who donated should have kept it quiet that they did, in-fact not even mentioned it at all.[/quote] [b]THIS[/b] be humble. anyway, best wishes Rich and lovely Maisy[/quote]

[quote="RICHMICH"][quote="ENKI"]. [quote="RICHMICH"]I am not going to justify myself to Zyar, you can all take from his comments what you wish.[/quote] In a way, if your going to do something like this, and ask the public for help, watever that may be, ofc you have to justify yourself, to everyone. [/quote] Here is where you are wrong. I DO NOT have to justify myself to him. He just doesnt have to donate or help its that simple. Someone with any sense can see this is genuine and posted on this forum on the off chance someone might share it and more people will see it. I did not expect the response i have with all the help and its absolutly amazed me. Again thanks to all who have helped. [/quote]

[quote="ENKI"]But he [b]did[/b] help. You said it yourself... [quote="RICHMICH"]Thanks for a constructive post Zyar!! I will save the template, it is very useful and informative.[/quote][/quote]

[quote="ENKI"][quote="EVIL_JR"]hope to fuck 1day you have a disabled child[/quote] Disgraceful -.-[/quote]

[quote="AQUARIUS"]Amazes me how this thread turned so quickly, when all Rich was doing was asking for a little help. He stated that it wasn't just about money, was happy for people just to spread the word. Yeah, maybe people shouldn't have been so insulting about Zyar but to be honest, a lot of people feel strongly when it comes to seeing innocent children in need. And if I'm honest, reading through the posts, even I thought Zyar was being a dick about it all. As many people have said, either donate or don't, that simple. As for government help, some people obviously haven't had to deal with the government when it comes to getting help. I watched a family member suffer and struggle for years because getting help was like getting blood from a stone. They're not the quickest of people when it comes to giving those the help they need. Also, not everybody has family and friends to rely on. Not everybody has the means to get loans etc. Asking for a little help is hurting nobody. Think it's a scam? Then don't donate. People on here are old enough to make up their own mind, no need to make Rich feel like a criminal for asking for help. People can spend their money how they choose to and if they choose to donate, it's their business and nobody elses. As someone has already stated, if you've got nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all. Good luck to you Rich, to your family and especially to little Maisy x[/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"]I'm asking Finito to delete this thread as I won't be at my home PC for a while (I need my home IP for mod panel). The reasons can be found below. This isn't the place for a debate about 'how to display your charity'. Though Zyar's template is valid. Like it or not you are donating for a product / goal which is measurable. The only difference is you won't see / use it. Also if anyone cares I have taken Zyar's word for it that he has quite some experience in such matters. Whether or not it's expert worthy is another case. So far he only has had valid points in crude wording - being a dick does not make you wrong. This isn't the place for such a charity. Feel free to continue this discussion in the off topic parts of the forum. Lack of proof. Since noone wants to justify himself, why should I? Transparancy is the business of the future and the only proper way to ask for a donation in my eyes. Anything less is a chance. That being said I still hold my point of view that this seems legit but can still be anything. I could give you multiple scenarios of how this could be a scam. Zyar has already pointed out some ways to come over as more legitimate in a previous post. The goal has been reached. The biggest reason of them all. I look forward to seeing the end result in the off topic section. *edit* Ty fin for moving it instead of deleting. [/quote]

[quote="NUCLEAR"]The cynicism is real. 9/11 was an inside job. I wonder if people get bored of the same old fucking rhetoric on these forums. Glad you got the money rich x [/quote]

[quote="QUIMM"]Would prefer if you private messaged Rich informing him that the thread was to be deleted Ian. At least then it would give him time to copy the opening posts and screen shot any nice sentiments which had been posted here. He could then start a new thread in the off topic section. As for all the horse shit about business proposal etc, please just fucking stop. It's a family reaching out in a time of need. As adults we are all capable of making our own decisions and deciding what to spend the money on. Either donate or don't but we don't need war and peace from you trying to justify your decision by calling horse shit, Loz's donation will have more than covered those who are against it. [/quote]

[quote="SKATT420"]Evil JR is the only Cunt here.. Wishing this on any unborn innocent child is absolutely disgusting regardless of how you regard the parent . There are many scams about though so anyone asking for public donations should make it as solid and legit as possible , thought I can understand this is easily overlooked by people in need with all their immediate worries and desperation .zyar could have been more sensitive ( English is not his first language) Even now this page could be copped and used for future scams so easily . There's even been a recent watchdog regarding it All the best rich I hope everything works out for your niece x[/quote]

[quote="EVIL_JR"]Im a cunt blah blah Not wishing a child to be disabled but wishing zyar to be in the situation where he would understand how hard it is to have one and appreciate how big of a person it takes to open up to the gaming community to ask for help lol If your going to quote what i say quote the rest of my post lol [/quote]