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SKATT420 |
this is more an issue for SS. theres a reason Dsoma had 100s of bosses compared to Hsoma and its more than just the turnout
When we do turn up we just get raped so people dont bother and it creates a shitty circle So how about coding the % that each race is on to be variable and change depending on the number of each race attending? within reason perhaps in multiples of 5/10 that way we would atleast stand a chance and more people would turn up and the entire thing would just be more balanced. im lvl 73 human with pretty good gear for my lvl and i cant hope to 1v1 a dev archer or knuxer 10 lvls below me
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[quote="SKATT420"]this is more an issue for SS. theres a reason Dsoma had 100s of bosses compared to Hsoma and its more than just the turnout
When we do turn up we just get raped so people dont bother and it creates a shitty circle
So how about coding the % that each race is on to be variable and change depending on the number of each race attending?
within reason perhaps in multiples of 5/10 that way we would atleast stand a chance and more people would turn up and the entire thing would just be more balanced.
im lvl 73 human with pretty good gear for my lvl and i cant hope to 1v1 a dev archer or knuxer 10 lvls below me
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#1 2015/03/22 12:33:32 |
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EVIL_JR |
SS % is same as WOTW.. and with the current %.. Devils can't drop much more....
Humans have won WOTW with devils being on 80% never mind 65%! For devils the most important thing is boss's for there drops so turnout will be strong. all it would take is a good turnout from humans to turn everything around! and loose this negative attitude towards a great event!
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[quote="EVIL_JR"]SS % is same as WOTW.. and with the current %.. Devils can't drop much more....
Humans have won WOTW with devils being on 80% never mind 65%!
For devils the most important thing is boss's for there drops so turnout will be strong.
all it would take is a good turnout from humans to turn everything around! and loose this negative attitude towards a great event![/quote]
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#2 2015/03/22 13:25:35 |
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IPHIOS |
People just don't go. The incentives are there but still. They don't go...
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#3 2015/03/22 13:48:58 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
Get more int. Proceed to 3 hit level 100 devils. Your str/dex will never be on par with melee devils, so exploit their weakness.
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#4 2015/03/22 14:09:59 |
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"SKATT420"this is more an issue for SS. theres a reason Dsoma had 100s of bosses compared to Hsoma and its more than just the turnout Quoted for bullshit. You are attempting to say that a level 63 devil on 60% beats you 1v1. What you probably meant to say is that you have a hard time casting and actually require pots for a pvp situation. At that level a Knuckler or archer has 100str 102-105dex 60int. So casting wouldn't be so bad and the damage you take pitiful on that %. Your int would wreck. Stop doing the usual and making shit up. Too many players do it already, don't jump on the band wagon.
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="SKATT420"]this is more an issue for SS. theres a reason Dsoma had 100s of bosses compared to Hsoma and its more than just the turnout
When we do turn up we just get raped so people dont bother and it creates a shitty circle
So how about coding the % that each race is on to be variable and change depending on the number of each race attending?
within reason perhaps in multiples of 5/10 that way we would atleast stand a chance and more people would turn up and the entire thing would just be more balanced.
im lvl 73 human with pretty good gear for my lvl and i cant hope to 1v1 a dev archer or knuxer 10 lvls below me
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Quoted for bullshit.
You are attempting to say that a level 63 devil on 60% beats you 1v1.
What you probably meant to say is that you have a hard time casting and actually require pots for a pvp situation.
At that level a Knuckler or archer has 100str 102-105dex 60int.
So casting wouldn't be so bad and the damage you take pitiful on that %.
Your int would wreck.
Stop doing the usual and making shit up. Too many players do it already, don't jump on the band wagon.[/quote]
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#5 2015/03/22 14:36:07 |
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EVIL_JR |
"SKATT420" So you couldnt 1v1 a level 63 with 100str and 105dex 60 int.... Think Yoshi should make a "PVP for dummies manual"
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[quote="EVIL_JR"][quote="SKATT420"]
as a lvl 73 i still get absolutely raped at wotw or SS, maybe i could kill with some magic but i can rarely cast
my char is balanced with 100int 95/95 dex str[/quote]
So you couldnt 1v1 a level 63 with 100str and 105dex 60 int....
Think Yoshi should make a "PVP for dummies manual"[/quote]
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#6 2015/03/22 15:54:08 |
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SKATT420 |
"EVIL_JR""SKATT420" what are you talking about... the Dex isnt affected so thats 105 dex still.. there str may be lower but the attack and defence difference isnt that much considering the power of the Dsoma equipment.. ontop of that lvl 63-73 is a bigish gap i shouldn't have to struggle fighting as much as i currently am. on PVP situation in Hsoma i could do it naked with no issues so tell me that isnt a little fucked up. Rather than talking in terms of Stats how about we use attack/Def and % on that.. with my BEST gear on im 158-203 attack and 128-148 Defence , MA (without staff) 148-157
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[quote="SKATT420"][quote="EVIL_JR"][quote="SKATT420"]
as a lvl 73 i still get absolutely raped at wotw or SS, maybe i could kill with some magic but i can rarely cast
my char is balanced with 100int 95/95 dex str[/quote]
So you couldnt 1v1 a level 63 with 100str and 105dex 60 int.... on 60% (40str 63dex 36 int)
Bearing in mind at that level they are still wearing dread armour (47str)
Think Yoshi should make a "PVP for dummies manual"[/quote]
what are you talking about... the Dex isnt affected so thats 105 dex still.. there str may be lower but the attack and defence difference isnt that much considering the power of the Dsoma equipment..
ontop of that lvl 63-73 is a bigish gap i shouldn't have to struggle fighting as much as i currently am. on PVP situation in Hsoma i could do it naked with no issues so tell me that isnt a little fucked up.
Rather than talking in terms of Stats how about we use attack/Def and % on that..
with my BEST gear on im 158-203 attack and 128-148 Defence , MA (without staff) 148-157
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#7 2015/03/22 16:59:42 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
Can't remember the sort of stats at level 60-ish devil would have (although Pathologist's numbers above sound about right), but you're looking at doing 100+ damage a hit to that devil with magic and WITHOUT weaken. I'm seriously doubt he's doing the same damage to you.
Also ignore JR, he doesn't seem to know what he's on about (sorry, dude XD) EDIT: oh wait you can just check my thread here lol
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Can't remember the sort of stats at level 60-ish devil would have (although Pathologist's numbers above sound about right), but you're looking at doing 100+ damage a hit to that devil with magic and WITHOUT weaken. I'm seriously doubt he's doing the same damage to you.
Also ignore JR, he doesn't seem to know what he's on about (sorry, dude XD)
EDIT: oh wait you can just check my thread [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=6583&title=To+anyone+interested+in+making+a+Devil+Knuckle&Page=1]here[/url] lol[/quote]
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#8 2015/03/22 17:21:24 |
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S0RCERER |
This has been discussed to death, you need only use the search function (which has improved massively since it's inception).
Rather than go back and forth with you Skatt, realise that the population on Hsoma vastly outnumbers that on Dsoma, the game was initially designed and balanced around high numbers of humans vs low number of devils. Conveniently, this server also has a high human:devil ratio. The only thing that brings the RvR out of balance is that humans WILLINGLY CHOOSE not to take part in RvR events. As i've said in the past and continue to parrot, humans need a big incentive to attend wars, just need to search for any thread about conti and the changes required which could fix the problem instantly. Sacred Stone is another kettle of fish entirely, last SS event, a group of 5humans turned up and grabbed 1,000 pos, subsequently leaving instantly. If even half the members of the top guilds turned out on Hsoma, you'd outnumber the whole Dsoma race and easily accumulate half or more of the 10k pos going, but you guys don't work together. You never have and unless you've got it on a silver plate, you never will.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]This has been discussed to death, you need only use the search function (which has improved massively since it's inception).
Rather than go back and forth with you Skatt, realise that the population on Hsoma vastly outnumbers that on Dsoma, the game was initially designed and balanced around high numbers of humans vs low number of devils.
Conveniently, this server also has a high human:devil ratio.
The only thing that brings the RvR out of balance is that humans [b]WILLINGLY CHOOSE[/b] not to take part in RvR events.
As i've said in the past and continue to parrot, humans need a big incentive to attend wars, just need to search for any thread about conti and the changes required which could fix the problem instantly.
Sacred Stone is another kettle of fish entirely, last SS event, a group of 5humans turned up and grabbed 1,000 pos, subsequently leaving instantly. If even half the members of the top guilds turned out on Hsoma, you'd outnumber the whole Dsoma race and easily accumulate half or more of the 10k pos going, but you guys don't work together.
You never have and unless you've got it on a silver plate, you never will.[/quote]
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#9 2015/03/22 17:23:06 |
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EVIL_JR |
apart from dex the stats were right... before taking into consideration his gear / attack /defense and the level 63 devils gear /attack / defense...
its just another moan thread to nerf the %.... there are people with same stats as you out potting near capped devils! instead of moaning about the % moan about humans not bothering to attend!
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[quote="EVIL_JR"]apart from dex the stats were right... before taking into consideration his gear / attack /defense and the level 63 devils gear /attack / defense...
its just another moan thread to nerf the %.... there are people with same stats as you out potting near capped devils!
instead of moaning about the % moan about humans not bothering to attend![/quote]
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#10 2015/03/22 17:29:22 |
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SKATT420 |
im not intending to moan. ive heard the same story its about Humans not turning up over and over. so i suggested an idea to combat that and keep it as fair as possible at all times by adjusting the % in tune with the number of each race at each event.
This would help both races out so if all humans did by some miracle get organised and go in force the % would favour increase to help the devs out
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[quote="SKATT420"]im not intending to moan. ive heard the same story its about Humans not turning up over and over. so i suggested an idea to combat that and keep it as fair as possible at all times by adjusting the % in tune with the number of each race at each event.
This would help both races out so if all humans did by some miracle get organised and go in force the % would favour increase to help the devs out[/quote]
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#11 2015/03/22 17:44:18 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
Humans don't turn upto SS. It's only ever FT and a handful of NM who turn up, no lower levels to slow/weaken or do anything else, even though there's no POS loss. Can't understand why nobody turns up to SS when it's just a guaranteed boss.
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#12 2015/03/22 18:42:43 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
"EVIL_JR"apart from dex the stats were right F9 stats are not affected by RvR %. It's just your F10 stats. |
#13 2015/03/22 20:09:14 |
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PROMETHEUS |
i doubt u even came across some one 10 lvls lower than you skatt, if you did pls share who it was. Last ss % so low even noobs like hurricane hurt with melee, was hard to pot just melee humans never mind the humans that 2 hit with int and you want our % to be even lower. #smokecrackmuch
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[quote="PROMETHEUS"]i doubt u even came across some one 10 lvls lower than you skatt, if you did pls share who it was. Last ss % so low even noobs like hurricane hurt with melee, was hard to pot just melee humans never mind the humans that 2 hit with int and you want our % to be even lower. #smokecrackmuch[/quote]
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#14 2015/03/22 21:01:11 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
"PROMETHEUS"i doubt u even came across some one 10 lvls lower than you skatt, if you did pls share who it was. Last ss % so low even noobs like hurricane hurt with melee, was hard to pot just melee humans never mind the humans that 2 hit with int and you want our % to be even lower. #smokecrackmuch Just FYI, Hurricane is lvl 100 ;o
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="PROMETHEUS"]i doubt u even came across some one 10 lvls lower than you skatt, if you did pls share who it was. Last ss % so low even noobs like hurricane hurt with melee, was hard to pot just melee humans never mind the humans that 2 hit with int and you want our % to be even lower. #smokecrackmuch[/quote]
Just FYI, Hurricane is lvl 100 ;o[/quote]
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