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The accuracy addition may be a good idea. That's not bad thinking.
I also agree with you on the dodge auras. I think it's really bad how nux and bow has been nerfed so much. A staggered system should be as follows: Nux 15% as they up front line warriors Bow 10% as range Staff 6 % think this is as it is atm? Sorry I think I am pushing the thread further off topic. What I would say is I am on human side, but have experience with high lvl dev axer previously. I agree dev axers should be as esoma, but humans did need a nerf and b speed is about right.
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[quote="CYROX"]The accuracy addition may be a good idea. That's not bad thinking.
I also agree with you on the dodge auras. I think it's really bad how nux and bow has been nerfed so much. A staggered system should be as follows:
Nux 15% as they up front line warriors
Bow 10% as range
Staff 6 % think this is as it is atm?
Sorry I think I am pushing the thread further off topic. What I would say is I am on human side, but have experience with high lvl dev axer previously. I agree dev axers should be as esoma, but humans did need a nerf and b speed is about right. [/quote]
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#61 2013/10/25 07:16:05 |
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CHOJINE |
Thank you Isylver, :) I stand corrected :).
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#62 2013/10/25 11:15:55 |
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GANDALF |
i think you should leave it as it is for another month, see how devil axers are lvling in comparison to other classes
PvP may be the main issue here as lvling B speed should'nt be that bad. but I've only just started my Devil axer so I'll see how there leveling is before judging :) /gandalf
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[quote="GANDALF"]i think you should leave it as it is for another month, see how devil axers are lvling in comparison to other classes
PvP may be the main issue here as lvling B speed should'nt be that bad.
but I've only just started my Devil axer so I'll see how there leveling is before judging :)
/gandalf
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#63 2013/10/26 11:10:10 |
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NEXUSJR |
did some quick little tests to see rates 4th axe vs. no 4th axe and here's what I got, did two tests.
1) 2 Garg fighters, timed with a stop watch 2) .5%, timed with a stop watch Results from 1) 4th axe time- 29 sec rounding UP, no 4th axe time, 22 sec rounding UP. Results from 2) 4th axe time - 4 min, 19 sec rounding UP, no 4th axe time, 4 min, 13 sec rounding UP Did the bottom test twice, same results, about 5-15 sec difference better with no 4th axe. This is with a 1h axe and shield, since i don't have the stats for the end game 2h axe. THIS IS THE LEVELING PORTION OF THE TESTS. Also noteworthy, Rahaz(Axer) tested vs. Vex(Bow user) leveling speed by attacks, and Vex across the board attacked faster than Rahaz. Rahaz has video evidence to support this, and yes, he used his 4th. I'm not talking about LANDED attacks btw, I'm talking about straight-up attacks. If this info is any bit informative and anyone would like to respond, please do so. I feel like us Axe users are getting the short end of the stick here now. Thanks
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[quote="NEXUSJR"]did some quick little tests to see rates 4th axe vs. no 4th axe and here's what I got, did two tests.
1) 2 Garg fighters, timed with a stop watch
2) .5%, timed with a stop watch
Results from 1) 4th axe time- 29 sec rounding UP, no 4th axe time, 22 sec rounding UP.
Results from 2) 4th axe time - 4 min, 19 sec rounding UP, no 4th axe time, 4 min, 13 sec rounding UP
Did the bottom test twice, same results, about 5-15 sec difference better with no 4th axe.
This is with a 1h axe and shield, since i don't have the stats for the end game 2h axe.
THIS IS THE LEVELING PORTION OF THE TESTS.
Also noteworthy, Rahaz(Axer) tested vs. Vex(Bow user) leveling speed by attacks, and Vex across the board attacked faster than Rahaz. Rahaz has video evidence to support this, and yes, he used his 4th.
I'm not talking about LANDED attacks btw, I'm talking about straight-up attacks.
If this info is any bit informative and anyone would like to respond, please do so.
I feel like us Axe users are getting the short end of the stick here now.
Thanks
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#64 2013/10/29 19:18:47 |
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NEXUSJR |
As soon as I town portal I will sort out some tests with a 2h axe.
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#65 2013/10/29 19:19:47 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
"NEXUSJR"did some quick little tests to see rates 4th axe vs. no 4th axe and here's what I got, did two tests. Got a link to that video? Axe 4th power is 880 (I believe) which means it should definitely attack faster than bows (which have a base of 1100, possibly 1000 if Intense). If the attacks are indeed slower, then that would be a bug with 4th axe. I think I might actually know what the bug is, tbh.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="NEXUSJR"]did some quick little tests to see rates 4th axe vs. no 4th axe and here's what I got, did two tests.
1) 2 Garg fighters, timed with a stop watch
2) .5%, timed with a stop watch
Results from 1) 4th axe time- 29 sec rounding UP, no 4th axe time, 22 sec rounding UP.
Results from 2) 4th axe time - 4 min, 19 sec rounding UP, no 4th axe time, 4 min, 13 sec rounding UP
Did the bottom test twice, same results, about 5-15 sec difference better with no 4th axe.
This is with a 1h axe and shield, since i don't have the stats for the end game 2h axe.
THIS IS THE LEVELING PORTION OF THE TESTS.
Also noteworthy, Rahaz(Axer) tested vs. Vex(Bow user) leveling speed by attacks, and Vex across the board attacked faster than Rahaz. Rahaz has video evidence to support this, and yes, he used his 4th.
I'm not talking about LANDED attacks btw, I'm talking about straight-up attacks.
If this info is any bit informative and anyone would like to respond, please do so.
I feel like us Axe users are getting the short end of the stick here now.
Thanks
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Got a link to that video? Axe 4th power is 880 (I believe) which means it should definitely attack faster than bows (which have a base of 1100, possibly 1000 if Intense).
If the attacks are indeed slower, then that would be a bug with 4th axe. I think I might actually know what the bug is, tbh.[/quote]
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#66 2013/10/29 19:42:04 |
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NEXUSJR |
"JARAGOONDOO" I believe Rahaz said he does, yeah
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[quote="NEXUSJR"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]
Got a link to that video? Axe 4th power is 880 (I believe) which means it should definitely attack faster than bows (which have a base of 1100, possibly 1000 if Intense).
If the attacks are indeed slower, then that would be a bug with 4th axe. I think I might actually know what the bug is, tbh.[/quote]
I believe Rahaz said he does, yeah[/quote]
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#67 2013/10/29 20:27:03 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
"NEXUSJR""JARAGOONDOO" Well, tell the foggot to post a link then. I need to confirm if my theory is right (which I can with the video), at which point I'll PM Finito/iSylver with the exact problem. The fact that you are killing faster without using 4th shows there is something definitely wrong.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="NEXUSJR"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]
Got a link to that video? Axe 4th power is 880 (I believe) which means it should definitely attack faster than bows (which have a base of 1100, possibly 1000 if Intense).
If the attacks are indeed slower, then that would be a bug with 4th axe. I think I might actually know what the bug is, tbh.[/quote]
I believe Rahaz said he does, yeah[/quote]
Well, tell the foggot to post a link then. I need to confirm if my theory is right (which I can with the video), at which point I'll PM Finito/iSylver with the exact problem.
The fact that you are killing faster without using 4th shows there is something definitely wrong.[/quote]
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#68 2013/10/29 23:45:18 |
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NEXUSJR |
"JARAGOONDOO" Haha, I will next time I get a chance to see him and/or he reads this thread. I'm in USA and therefore don't have much access to talking to the European players besides in game, and since I made the post, Rahaz has not come back on. :]
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[quote="NEXUSJR"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]
Well, tell the foggot to post a link then. I need to confirm if my theory is right (which I can with the video), at which point I'll PM Finito/iSylver with the exact problem.
The fact that you are killing faster without using 4th shows there is something definitely wrong.[/quote]
Haha, I will next time I get a chance to see him and/or he reads this thread. I'm in USA and therefore don't have much access to talking to the European players besides in game, and since I made the post, Rahaz has not come back on. :][/quote]
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#69 2013/10/30 00:07:31 |
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XENABI |
Just adding my 10 cents worth but it was the nerf to hsoma axe that drove me away from the standard axe/bow combo. My character on esoma was using that combo and I felt such a great achievement when I got 4th axe but now I can't? Might as well have gone pure knuck or something....shame really to be honest.
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[quote="XENABI"]Just adding my 10 cents worth but it was the nerf to hsoma axe that drove me away from the standard axe/bow combo. My character on esoma was using that combo and I felt such a great achievement when I got 4th axe but now I can't? Might as well have gone pure knuck or something....shame really to be honest.[/quote]
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#70 2013/10/30 13:46:59 |
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CARNAGE |
I can see why it was done to hsoma because everyone and their mother would of went axe/bow but hsoma also have the ability to change weapons at anytime where as dsoma doesn't. So in my opinion whatever happens the change to the hsoma version should stick.
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#71 2013/10/30 14:00:31 |
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SHATTERSTAR |
I am of the opinion that if it was changed for hsoma and devils got affected then Dsoma should get their own aura to revert to how it was.
If the problem with hsoma is that it was nerfed because of the axe/bow combo and not axe/knux combo, surely the problem lies with bow and not the axe aura? Seems to me that bow constantly has its cake and eats it.
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[quote="SHATTERSTAR"]I am of the opinion that if it was changed for hsoma and devils got affected then Dsoma should get their own aura to revert to how it was.
If the problem with hsoma is that it was nerfed because of the axe/bow combo and not axe/knux combo, surely the problem lies with bow and not the axe aura? Seems to me that bow constantly has its cake and eats it.
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#72 2013/10/30 14:19:40 |
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RAHAZ |
Thanks for the faggot comment nice touch,
Regarding the video, it was only something I filmed on my phone, if someone can tell me the name of a free bit of software I can film it in the pc. Ill so multiple filming a with all different classes. Still at work but will post later
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[quote="RAHAZ"]Thanks for the faggot comment nice touch,
Regarding the video, it was only something I filmed on my phone, if someone can tell me the name of a free bit of software I can film it in the pc.
Ill so multiple filming a with all different classes.
Still at work but will post later [/quote]
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#73 2013/10/30 15:23:33 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
http://camstudio.org/
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#74 2013/10/30 17:01:00 |
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RAHAZ |
http://www.2shared.com/video/sPdMvPLu/IMG_2573.html
Not the greatest, the prog you suggested kept crashing. |
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