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GREATERIX |
Just broke 65str and OMG it's painful.
takes about an hour at wraiths now for each .1 - whereas a guildie with 70str+ with sword is taking about half that, and similar to the rate I was geting 60-65str. What kinda gains does everyone else see after this point with different weapons? *note* not a complaint as such, just curious as to the weapon differences :)
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[quote="GREATERIX"]Just broke 65str and OMG it's painful.
takes about an hour at wraiths now for each .1 - whereas a guildie with 70str+ with sword is taking about half that, and similar to the rate I was geting 60-65str.
What kinda gains does everyone else see after this point with different weapons?
*note* not a complaint as such, just curious as to the weapon differences
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#1 2013/10/17 14:24:56 |
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S0RCERER |
"GREATERIX"Just broke 65str and OMG it's painful. It's more to do with Wraith only have 64str. You should be moving onto a new monster.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="GREATERIX"]Just broke 65str and OMG it's painful.
takes about an hour at wraiths now for each .1 - whereas a guildie with 70str+ with sword is taking about half that, and similar to the rate I was geting 60-65str.
What kinda gains does everyone else see after this point with different weapons?
*note* not a complaint as such, just curious as to the weapon differences
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It's more to do with Wraith only have 64str.
You should be moving onto a new monster.[/quote]
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#2 2013/10/17 14:26:59 |
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GREATERIX |
"S0RCERER""GREATERIX"Just broke 65str and OMG it's painful. I thought that too - what would you suggest? Tried lvl3 dung but more than 1 EE at a time it's horrible - had 3 at one point and went through 100 w1 pots - and that's in full plate with rare top+helm. oh, and just to make it clearer guildie was gaining at wraiths also.
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[quote="GREATERIX"][quote="S0RCERER"][quote="GREATERIX"]Just broke 65str and OMG it's painful.
takes about an hour at wraiths now for each .1 - whereas a guildie with 70str+ with sword is taking about half that, and similar to the rate I was geting 60-65str.
What kinda gains does everyone else see after this point with different weapons?
*note* not a complaint as such, just curious as to the weapon differences
:)[/quote]
It's more to do with Wraith only have 64str.
You should be moving onto a new monster.[/quote]
I thought that too - what would you suggest?
Tried lvl3 dung but more than 1 EE at a time it's horrible - had 3 at one point and went through 100 w1 pots - and that's in full plate with rare top+helm.
oh, and just to make it clearer guildie was gaining at wraiths also.[/quote]
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#3 2013/10/17 14:28:51 |
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Depends on your dex.
Evil Brics are one of the best monsters to train on if you have 60+ dex and enough INT to take min damage from them. They have very low health (400) and are almost the same as Warban for STR. They're better than Devil Warriors, Earth Elementals (in D2 and D3/D4) and better than Mongmen.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Depends on your dex.
Evil Brics are one of the best monsters to train on if you have 60+ dex and enough INT to take min damage from them.
They have very low health (400) and are almost the same as Warban for STR.
They're better than Devil Warriors, Earth Elementals (in D2 and D3/D4) and better than Mongmen.[/quote]
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#4 2013/10/17 14:40:29 |
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GREATERIX |
hmm, will deffo give them a try in a little while.
will post results :P |
#5 2013/10/17 14:43:16 |
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GHOSTLORD |
I found on the test server that as long as you stay under the STR of a mob it gives the best stats. The 65 slowdown is one of the big ones though so part of it will be powering on!
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#6 2013/10/17 14:44:23 |
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REAPER |
75str is the slow down for wraiths, like ghostlord said 65 is the big slow down for everything, i personally would stay til 75str then move on to devil warriors.
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#7 2013/10/17 14:47:58 |
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"REAPER"75str is the slow down for wraiths, like ghostlord said 65 is the big slow down for everything, i personally would stay til 75str then move on to devil warriors. If you are at or above the mob's own STR, your gains of str per % will be abysmal by comparison. If you wish to stay at wraiths simply because it's "easy" for you, then by all means do so - however you are (in the short term) gaining horrible stats %-wise. It is advised to move onto something more suited to your strength. I suggested Evil Brics because they are another INT monster with STR far higher than the OP and as such will suffice for really nice gains. That said, as Evil Brics do have 90+ str so their defense might be too high for him, try to find a monster with Str in the 70's and go with that.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="REAPER"]75str is the slow down for wraiths, like ghostlord said 65 is the big slow down for everything, i personally would stay til 75str then move on to devil warriors.[/quote]
If you are at or above the mob's own STR, your gains of str per % will be abysmal by comparison.
If you wish to stay at wraiths simply because it's "easy" for you, then by all means do so - however you are (in the short term) gaining horrible stats %-wise.
It is advised to move onto something more suited to your strength.
I suggested Evil Brics because they are another INT monster with STR far higher than the OP and as such will suffice for really nice gains.
That said, as Evil Brics do have 90+ str so their defense might be too high for him, try to find a monster with Str in the 70's and go with that.[/quote]
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#8 2013/10/17 15:22:45 |
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GREATERIX |
"S0RCERER""REAPER"75str is the slow down for wraiths, like ghostlord said 65 is the big slow down for everything, i personally would stay til 75str then move on to devil warriors. hit a couple of evil brics before leaving work and have a few observations. Damage from them not a problem in the slightest, even with weaken max per hit is below 10 in shaman gear. They die in about 6-8 hits, and give me a whopping .02/.03 xp each kill. Is str linked in anyway to % earned? I hope not xD on a sidenote, I tackled a DW that wandered past and he was no problem on his own, less than quarter health taken out.
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[quote="GREATERIX"][quote="S0RCERER"][quote="REAPER"]75str is the slow down for wraiths, like ghostlord said 65 is the big slow down for everything, i personally would stay til 75str then move on to devil warriors.[/quote]
If you are at or above the mob's own STR, your gains of str per % will be abysmal by comparison.
If you wish to stay at wraiths simply because it's "easy" for you, then by all means do so - however you are (in the short term) gaining horrible stats %-wise.
It is advised to move onto something more suited to your strength.
I suggested Evil Brics because they are another INT monster with STR far higher than the OP and as such will suffice for really nice gains.
That said, as Evil Brics do have 90+ str so their defense might be too high for him, try to find a monster with Str in the 70's and go with that.[/quote]
hit a couple of evil brics before leaving work and have a few observations.
Damage from them not a problem in the slightest, even with weaken max per hit is below 10 in shaman gear.
They die in about 6-8 hits, and give me a whopping .02/.03 xp each kill.
Is str linked in anyway to % earned? I hope not xD
on a sidenote, I tackled a DW that wandered past and he was no problem on his own, less than quarter health taken out.[/quote]
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#9 2013/10/17 15:37:15 |
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% gained varies from monster to monster, I don't have the information on experience per mob at hand.
But they don't vary wildly, so EB should be pretty good for str per %. |
#10 2013/10/17 15:53:00 |
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SCOIN |
"S0RCERER" wraith have 82 str! |
#11 2013/10/17 16:15:24 |
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BRAINDATA |
"SCOIN""S0RCERER" Abias wraith have 80+ and VOD wraith have 64 in armory o0 |
#12 2013/10/17 16:20:00 |
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S0RCERER |
"SCOIN""S0RCERER" The wraith with 82str don't exist as far as i'm aware, you failed to notice they have no dropfile what-so-ever, right?
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="SCOIN"][quote="S0RCERER"]
It's more to do with Wraith only have 64str.
You should be moving onto a new monster.[/quote]
wraith have 82 str!
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The wraith with 82str don't exist as far as i'm aware, you failed to notice they have no dropfile what-so-ever, right?[/quote]
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#13 2013/10/17 16:43:12 |
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BADGER |
The wraith with 82str is the talking wraith near valks.
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#14 2013/10/17 17:09:22 |
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RAVER |
Isn't knuckle more a dex wep like bow? That's why your str gain slower than sword.
I think knuckle and bow better for dex Axe and spear better for str Sword in between on both. (Better for str than knuckle and bow but worse than axe and sword. Better for dex than axer and spear but worse than bow and knuckle) Maybe wron
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[quote="RAVER"]Isn't knuckle more a dex wep like bow? That's why your str gain slower than sword.
I think
knuckle and bow better for dex
Axe and spear better for str
Sword in between on both. (Better for str than knuckle and bow but worse than axe and sword. Better for dex than axer and spear but worse than bow and knuckle)
Maybe wron[/quote]
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#15 2013/10/17 17:41:57 |
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