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[quote="VITALITY"]I wanna start out as bow, and then do some int to grind on wraiths (with a bow) Can anyone give me a rough guide on what to do until wraiths? (When to start melee training on them, int training etc) Ty also looking for active guilds :*[/quote]

[quote="SYLVERANGEL"]very roughly wolfs / leos => mummies => orcs => scale raptors (there is a nice spawn in merc somewhere) => raptors => trolls Do trolls till around 50 dex and then get the int to melee wraiths naked (68.5 int and 100 blue skill)[/quote]

[quote="VITALITY"]Thanks a lot Sylverangel :D time to crack on[/quote]

[quote="BASIL"]Can start wraith as early as 45.[/quote]

[quote="JAHEIRA"]Lower than 45, I had to hunt abias wraith for a few levels due to vod being 30 lvl requirement [/quote]

[quote="SQUALLX"]Am I right in thinking it's 10 less int required if you have 100 black magic skill?[/quote]

[quote="CHRONOS"]Its been changed to Blue on this server , they made wraiths blue magic [/quote]

[quote="VITALITY"]thank you all for the help so is it white magic for attack and black magic for +10 md? thanks[/quote]

[quote="SQUALLX"][quote="CHRONOS"]Its been changed to Blue on this server , they made wraiths blue magic [/quote] Thanks for that white magic it is then.[/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="VITALITY"]thank you all for the help so is it white magic for attack and black magic for +10 md? thanks[/quote] White magic skill gives defence against white magic. Black magic skill gives defence against black magic. [/quote]

[quote="KAIDONE"]Personally i would get a little con before going out and hunting as hunting with low hp/bagweight is annoying i would get ATLEAST 14 con (preferably 18), Then i would go wolfs/spiders untill 12 str, Leocrot/Red Leocrot untill 16 str, Evil Crawler (just outside of merc) untill 26 str, Kobolds/Stiges (Stiges imo are easier to hunt due to long range and better spawn) untill 31 str although you could leave at 28 str if you feel comfortable using pots abit more frequent, Scaled Raptors (In the mountains left of merc) untill 38 str, Raptors untill 45 str. Now if you are pure bow i would suggest getting 69 int and hunting wraiths naked with a bag full of weps (same applies to knuckle) However if you are not pure bow i would take a bow/knuckle and go to Psycho Troll (Swamp area in merc) and get dex to 40-45 whichever you feel comfortable with when hunting wraiths, remember defensive dex is useless against wraith it is only your hit rate (accuracy) you need to worry about also one more tip i would give is when hunting wraith use 1st aura as it gives 5 attack damage. Wraiths are good untill 74 str although at 67 dex (if you are pure dex class) you can try bone golems or devil warrior the %/stat ratio isn't that great a difference and wraith are far more convenient as you can spend 10+ hours at wraiths with 0 pots and a bag full of weapons. If you decided to get 74 str i suggest one of 3 options frome here on, - Use a tank and hunt valks (Sand valkyrie, Just below and slightly right from vod portal) - Use a healer in a 2nd client and take valks one at a time whilst healing - And lastly you can hunt Devil warrior/bone golems untill 80 str (then move to valks) If Humans own continental army map i'd deffo reccomend bone golems as they are very good stats and fast, just don't use good gear or anything worth something to you devil archers can be a nightmare. at roughly 85 str 75 dex i would take Palus 1 at a time and heal before/after everyone it is a pain but this way your hunt will last aslong as the dura on a bagweight full of weps last, Palus are great you can stay here untill 90 dex/110 str although for maximum benefit you will leave at 98 str (only die hard soma nerds worry about this -10 -30 -50 str thing before Beast lord guardian) after 90 dex 110 str (105 str will be fine) Go to Apus and hunt these untill 100 dex with bow only, From here on you will want to hunt Hoarde shanis (The Gm's have been very kind and made these a more suitable bridge to BLG) I personally would focus purely on dex at this stage untill i was certain i had 'Enough' this can be anywhere from 100-125 maybe even more before doing axe if you have 100 dex only you will have a bit better int and won't be as squishy vs mages (This server has a fairly high amount of mages), The less dex you have the more int you have each one are just as important as eachother so it's really your choice which one you decide to prgress in "You can't have it all". Anyway back on subject xD, Hoarde shanis should be fine untill 110 dex (If you wish to go this far and focus mainly on bow/knuckle whilst you are there) if you don't spend much time on bow whilst there get 120 str atleast and 130 at MOST, unless you have a healer go at 110 STR and one at a time (This will give the best stats possible) Remember very important these are the last monster for str/dex go as early as you can. Hope i helped sorry for my bad construction and grammatical errors ect ;p[/quote]

[quote="SYLVERANGEL"]wow impressive response kai :P[/quote]

[quote="VITALITY"]thank you for this detailed response, i will definitely come back and read this :) [/quote]

[quote="VITALITY"]When is the first evasion armour at? (Not the 13dex one) Also looking for armour/weapon crafters :D Thanks for all the help so far[/quote]

[quote="GASH"]Tempered Leather armour (13dex) Strong Leather armour (18dex) Tempered Metal armour (25 dex) Tempered Plate armour (44dex) White Metal armour (55dex) Displacer armour (67dex)[/quote]