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CHOJINE |
If the possibility of raising nuk's dodge % is not negotiable, how about adding a defense+ aura to nuk?
This would combat the fact that at 8% dodge and low strength, you cannot move to DW, but with a defense + aura, the fact that your dodge aura is useless against good dex mobs will be neither here nor there, as you can boost def and level normally. This will not effect pvp tbh, as most people will either still use dodge or use 4th.
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[quote="CHOJINE"]If the possibility of raising nuk's dodge % is not negotiable, how about adding a defense+ aura to nuk?
This would combat the fact that at 8% dodge and low strength, you cannot move to DW, but with a defense + aura, the fact that your dodge aura is useless against good dex mobs will be neither here nor there, as you can boost def and level normally.
This will not effect pvp tbh, as most people will either still use dodge or use 4th.[/quote]
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#1 2013/10/27 17:10:33 |
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L1NK |
I agree that nux needs to be buffed in some way to bring it inline with other weaps. I'm not sure I'm a fan of a def aura as nux is a dex weapon and wouldn't feel right.
I personally think buffing nux dodge aura back to 15% would resolve the current problem. It will still be hard to achieve 100% Eva due to the nerf to hero boots so it wouldn't be OP or anything.
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[quote="L1NK"]I agree that nux needs to be buffed in some way to bring it inline with other weaps. I'm not sure I'm a fan of a def aura as nux is a dex weapon and wouldn't feel right.
I personally think buffing nux dodge aura back to 15% would resolve the current problem. It will still be hard to achieve 100% Eva due to the nerf to hero boots so it wouldn't be OP or anything. [/quote]
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#2 2013/10/28 11:58:43 |
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GHOSTLORD |
I wouldn't mind a knuckle buff at all. However I strongly disagree with those who use any argument about 100%. I believe 100% evasion is stupid and should never ever be in a game. Even in modern soma it has no place. You shouldn't be able to get it.
That being said, reintroducing 15% eva would change a lot, maybe too much. What if we changed bow 2nd into accuracy and keep knuckle as dodge, or even vice versa.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]I wouldn't mind a knuckle buff at all. However I strongly disagree with those who use any argument about 100%. I believe 100% evasion is stupid and should never ever be in a game. Even in modern soma it has no place. You shouldn't be able to get it.
That being said, reintroducing 15% eva would change a lot, maybe too much. What if we changed bow 2nd into accuracy and keep knuckle as dodge, or even vice versa.[/quote]
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#3 2013/10/28 12:11:47 |
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ACAELUS |
"GHOSTLORD"That being said, reintroducing 15% eva would change a lot, maybe too much. What if we changed bow 2nd into accuracy and keep knuckle as dodge, or even vice versa. Interesting idea but too much of a game changer to introduce at this point I think. Bow is already the default dex weapon almost everyone does and giving it accuracy would just make it even more over powered. Not only in pvp but to train with as well. Style did most his bowing cliffing bottom left vod, imagin if he had that accuracy too.
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[quote="ACAELUS"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]That being said, reintroducing 15% eva would change a lot, maybe too much. What if we changed bow 2nd into accuracy and keep knuckle as dodge, or even vice versa.[/quote]
Interesting idea but too much of a game changer to introduce at this point I think. Bow is already the default dex weapon almost everyone does and giving it accuracy would just make it even more over powered. Not only in pvp but to train with as well. Style did most his bowing cliffing bottom left vod, imagin if he had that accuracy too.[/quote]
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#4 2013/10/28 12:42:18 |
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PATHOLOGIST |
Im up for knuckle aura being accuracy, they hit fast, not very hard, but they dont miss a lot, thats the idea behind knuckle surely?
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#5 2013/10/28 13:45:31 |
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L1NK |
An accuracy aura for nux would only hurt out hunting further as the problem is survivability and not kill speed. I also disagree with a bow accuracy aura. Unless it was like 5% max. Still unsure. I would leave bow as is an think of ways of buffing nux.
I posted another idea in another thread. I thought about upping nux dmg considerably so our kill speed is faster but they may unbalance things early game. You could up dmg slightly and increase nux dodge to 12%. This may be a nice balance. You have to remember that late game bowers, swordies etc wil likely have A-Speed weaps. Nux needs something so it doesn't fall even further behind late game.
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[quote="L1NK"]An accuracy aura for nux would only hurt out hunting further as the problem is survivability and not kill speed. I also disagree with a bow accuracy aura. Unless it was like 5% max. Still unsure. I would leave bow as is an think of ways of buffing nux.
I posted another idea in another thread. I thought about upping nux dmg considerably so our kill speed is faster but they may unbalance things early game. You could up dmg slightly and increase nux dodge to 12%. This may be a nice balance.
You have to remember that late game bowers, swordies etc wil likely have A-Speed weaps. Nux needs something so it doesn't fall even further behind late game. [/quote]
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#6 2013/10/28 14:04:21 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
Like the above poster said, it's not kill-speed that is the issue; it's survivibility.
If knuckle could be used with a shield OR if dodge was buffed it would be fine. PvP damage will always be pretty low for knuckkle until you get your final tier weapon and higher skill (at least 4th). That's, IMO, your penalty for choosing the fastest levelling weapon.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Like the above poster said, it's not kill-speed that is the issue; it's survivibility.
If knuckle could be used with a shield OR if dodge was buffed it would be fine.
PvP damage will always be pretty low for knuckkle until you get your final tier weapon and higher skill (at least 4th). That's, IMO, your penalty for choosing the fastest levelling weapon.[/quote]
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#7 2013/10/28 15:08:28 |
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CHOJINE |
Some good ideas, knuckle + shield could counter the issue.
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#8 2013/10/28 17:17:00 |
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CYROX |
Another idea, one that i think if it could work would be really interesting...
What if 3rd and 5th aura had a stun on hit as well as the damage. Lets face it our 3rd and 5th are pretty weak. If it say had a 1.5-2sec stun upon landing hit, it would give us more survivability at hunting. It would also give us a really interesting dynamic in pvp seeing as our damage output is low. Dont know if its possible, but i also dont see it being OP providing the stun wasnt too long. *edit* i honestly dont like the idea of turning nux into a tankier weapon i.e shield., It just doesnt fit the style of the class. but thats my opinion, would ofc improve our surviverbility
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[quote="CYROX"]Another idea, one that i think if it could work would be really interesting...
What if 3rd and 5th aura had a stun on hit as well as the damage. Lets face it our 3rd and 5th are pretty weak.
If it say had a 1.5-2sec stun upon landing hit, it would give us more survivability at hunting. It would also give us a really interesting dynamic in pvp seeing as our damage output is low.
Dont know if its possible, but i also dont see it being OP providing the stun wasnt too long.
*edit* i honestly dont like the idea of turning nux into a tankier weapon i.e shield., It just doesnt fit the style of the class. but thats my opinion, would ofc improve our surviverbility[/quote]
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#9 2013/10/28 18:12:32 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
Totally don't agree with the whole shield, but if it's a way to increase knuckle then why not. But i'd personally like to see the evasion increased on knuckles dodge, as people have said it's the staying alive that's the problem
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#10 2013/10/28 19:40:55 |
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WER |
"ACAELUS""GHOSTLORD"That being said, reintroducing 15% eva would change a lot, maybe too much. What if we changed bow 2nd into accuracy and keep knuckle as dodge, or even vice versa. Getting fed up with people like u player hating people like zyzz cliffed shanis from 70-79 dex yet u dont mention him just style? grow up u turd
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[quote="WER"][quote="ACAELUS"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]That being said, reintroducing 15% eva would change a lot, maybe too much. What if we changed bow 2nd into accuracy and keep knuckle as dodge, or even vice versa.[/quote]
Interesting idea but too much of a game changer to introduce at this point I think. Bow is already the default dex weapon almost everyone does and giving it accuracy would just make it even more over powered. Not only in pvp but to train with as well. Style did most his bowing cliffing bottom left vod, imagin if he had that accuracy too.[/quote]
Getting fed up with people like u player hating people like zyzz cliffed shanis from 70-79 dex yet u dont mention him just style? grow up u turd [/quote]
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#11 2013/10/28 21:44:26 |
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BRIGS |
Interesting idea about accuracy but I'd dislike bow aura being completely accuracy.
How about knuckle - current Evasion, but + 5 accuracy bow - slightly less evasion but + 10 accuracy |
#12 2013/10/28 21:54:59 |
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RAZOR |
"BRIGS"Interesting idea about accuracy but I'd dislike bow aura being completely accuracy. Too hight, more like +3 and +5 accuracy tops |
#13 2013/10/29 10:07:41 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
All these ideas about accuracy are bad ideas. You're not fixing the problem, you're just compounding it.
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#14 2013/10/29 23:47:47 |
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CYROX |
Agree. I don't care about accuracy currently. I care about being able to sustain or evade enough damage to hunt efficiently.
It will only force more ppl down the bow and cliffing route. Which considering is also a better pvp weap, I can't argue why the majority have gone bow.
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[quote="CYROX"]Agree. I don't care about accuracy currently. I care about being able to sustain or evade enough damage to hunt efficiently.
It will only force more ppl down the bow and cliffing route. Which considering is also a better pvp weap, I can't argue why the majority have gone bow. [/quote]
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#15 2013/10/30 08:07:44 |
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