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"GHOSTLORD"I'm all for removing frogs from NM and replacing them with other, more suitable items. Especially with upgrades a good variety is always nice.


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[quote="SICKK"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]I'm all for removing frogs from NM and replacing them with other, more suitable items. Especially with upgrades a good variety is always nice.[/quote] ^[/quote]
hunt BLG if you want their drops. Dont try to change another Mobs drop file i'd say. Maybe tweek and add a few more drops to nm drop file.

But I completely disagree with changing it altogether.
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[quote="NITE"]hunt BLG if you want their drops. Dont try to change another Mobs drop file i'd say. Maybe tweek and add a few more drops to nm drop file. But I completely disagree with changing it altogether.[/quote]
I'm all for changing their drops but you need to be smart about it. Getting to nightmares is by far a hell of a lot easier than It is to get to blg with how easy int it to obtain.

Making them drop a lot more stuff like upgrades would be too silly, I wouldn't compare blg to nightmares purely because of how easy it is too kill mobs with int.

You could probably kill 3 times as many nightmares as you would kill blg in an hour if you compared the 2 not to mention frost wind etc being worth using for aoe

I don't want the pure int people running around with all these diamonds and upgrades so easily

Let's not give mages more of an advantage than they already have atm with the immense damage they already output.

I suggest making abias nightmares a better hunting spot and not to go too overboard with their drops.
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[quote="TOLIC"]I'm all for changing their drops but you need to be smart about it. Getting to nightmares is by far a hell of a lot easier than It is to get to blg with how easy int it to obtain. Making them drop a lot more stuff like upgrades would be too silly, I wouldn't compare blg to nightmares purely because of how easy it is too kill mobs with int. You could probably kill 3 times as many nightmares as you would kill blg in an hour if you compared the 2 not to mention frost wind etc being worth using for aoe I don't want the pure int people running around with all these diamonds and upgrades so easily Let's not give mages more of an advantage than they already have atm with the immense damage they already output. I suggest making abias nightmares a better hunting spot and not to go too overboard with their drops. [/quote]
"TOLIC"I'm all for changing their drops but you need to be smart about it.


Thats pretty much exactly what i said when Ace asked for them to drop diamonds..

I suggest making abias nightmares a better hunting spot and not to go too overboard with their drops.


Abais spawn currently is just horrible mobs are miles apart, and every now and then you get SB / stige annoying you, its already bad enough that NM tops only drop from abais... But i dont think its worth changing the drop file on them, unless the spawn was increased...

Alternatively just change the drop file in vod.
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[quote="FUJITORA"][quote="TOLIC"]I'm all for changing their drops but you need to be smart about it. [/quote] Thats pretty much exactly what i said when Ace asked for them to drop diamonds.. [quote=]I suggest making abias nightmares a better hunting spot and not to go too overboard with their drops. [/quote] Abais spawn currently is just horrible mobs are miles apart, and every now and then you get SB / stige annoying you, its already bad enough that NM tops only drop from abais... But i dont think its worth changing the drop file on them, unless the spawn was increased... Alternatively just change the drop file in vod.[/quote]
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"TOLIC"I'm all for changing their drops but you need to be smart about it.


Thats pretty much exactly what i said when Ace asked for them to drop diamonds..

I suggest making abias nightmares a better hunting spot and not to go too overboard with their drops.


Abais spawn currently is just horrible mobs are miles apart, and every now and then you get SB / stige annoying you, its already bad enough that NM tops only drop from abais... But i dont think its worth changing the drop file on them, unless the spawn was increased...

Alternatively just change the drop file in vod.


Surely the Abias drop file should be the same as the vod one? If not just change it slightly so you can hunt either mob depending on what kind of mobs you want. I always enjoyed hunting the abias ones better then the vod ones, shame theyre pretty redundant now since the vod ones have a better drop file
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="FUJITORA"][quote="TOLIC"]I'm all for changing their drops but you need to be smart about it. [/quote] Thats pretty much exactly what i said when Ace asked for them to drop diamonds.. [quote=]I suggest making abias nightmares a better hunting spot and not to go too overboard with their drops. [/quote] Abais spawn currently is just horrible mobs are miles apart, and every now and then you get SB / stige annoying you, its already bad enough that NM tops only drop from abais... But i dont think its worth changing the drop file on them, unless the spawn was increased... Alternatively just change the drop file in vod.[/quote] Surely the Abias drop file should be the same as the vod one? If not just change it slightly so you can hunt either mob depending on what kind of mobs you want. I always enjoyed hunting the abias ones better then the vod ones, shame theyre pretty redundant now since the vod ones have a better drop file[/quote]
Theyre pretty redundant because the spawn is shit, not because the drops are worse, the only item they both drop worth caring about are frogs, so yeah...

Although i dont think the spawn being not so amazing is much of a problem atm, people with low int who just moved to nms should prolly start in abais. But yeah if any change is made to drop files, it would be nice to be to both spawns.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]Theyre pretty redundant because the spawn is shit, not because the drops are worse, the only item they both drop worth caring about are frogs, so yeah... Although i dont think the spawn being not so amazing is much of a problem atm, people with low int who just moved to nms should prolly start in abais. But yeah if any change is made to drop files, it would be nice to be to both spawns.[/quote]
Although I'm a long way from NM, I just want to add my feelings of caution about diamond drops. It sounds like they're rarer than they ought to be currently, but don't go too far. When I, one day, get a level 4 spell, I don't want them to be a dime a dozen :p I kind of like the situation where lvl 4 is more for prestige than it is a value upgrade, particularly from the point of view of a person who loves magic and would play a mage even if it was underpowered.
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[quote="IMCON"]Although I'm a long way from NM, I just want to add my feelings of caution about diamond drops. It sounds like they're rarer than they ought to be currently, but don't go too far. When I, one day, get a level 4 spell, I don't want them to be a dime a dozen :p I kind of like the situation where lvl 4 is more for prestige than it is a value upgrade, particularly from the point of view of a person who loves magic and would play a mage even if it was underpowered.[/quote]
Bump, would be nice to get from iSylver regarding this, Quite a few people have moved onto nms now, and some even thinking of holding off until the drops do get changed, if they do.

Everyone seems to agree, (Even Ghostlord), that some change wouldn't go amiss.
Just needs to be carefully thought out so that whatever is changed doesnt vastly affect the economy.

Few suggestions:
Remove frogs
Small diamonds / medium rubys / Tablets of wisdom at the rate prisms drop warp necks (Ive hunted at prisms for like 3/4 weeks maybe and had i think 6/7 warp necks, Seems like a fair drop rate to ask for)
at similar low drop rates
Eggs maybe? Very large lack of LLs ingame, again at very low drop rates.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]Bump, would be nice to get from iSylver regarding this, Quite a few people have moved onto nms now, and some even thinking of holding off until the drops do get changed, if they do. Everyone seems to agree, (Even Ghostlord), that some change wouldn't go amiss. Just needs to be carefully thought out so that whatever is changed doesnt vastly affect the economy. Few suggestions: Remove frogs Small diamonds / medium rubys / Tablets of wisdom at the rate prisms drop warp necks (Ive hunted at prisms for like 3/4 weeks maybe and had i think 6/7 warp necks, Seems like a fair drop rate to ask for) at similar low drop rates Eggs maybe? Very large lack of LLs ingame, again at very low drop rates. [/quote]
I o not agree with changing their drop file to such a large extent. I would suggest a very shuttle change such as removing frogs and directly replacing it with ll's. In no way should nm start dropping items equivilant to blg. Mms are far easier to reach and also far quicker to grind on. This would only force more ppl down the route of Mage.

However I do agree that changing frogs for something is a good idea because mages can grind on prisms for frogs.
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[quote="CYROX"]I o not agree with changing their drop file to such a large extent. I would suggest a very shuttle change such as removing frogs and directly replacing it with ll's. In no way should nm start dropping items equivilant to blg. Mms are far easier to reach and also far quicker to grind on. This would only force more ppl down the route of Mage. However I do agree that changing frogs for something is a good idea because mages can grind on prisms for frogs. [/quote]

 

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