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[quote="POWPOWPOW"]Hi, It has always been the need for devils to own conti due to EB's being nice n easy to hunt, the problem is when we lose conti GF in dungeon are next to impossible to hunt. more and more people are aiming to keep under the -30 -50 str to mob range, but GF are pretty impossible to hunt until well above that and even then they rinse pots and dura so hunts don't last long. I like the fact EB are "easier" as they come with their own risk of humans. but when humans decide to continually camp conti, or we lose conti altogether GF are just not a viable option. GF currently have 52 more attacking dex and 20 more defensive dex. EB current stats are 137 str 60 def dex 98 attacking dex GF current stats are 138 str 80 def dex and 150 attacking dex. could we maybe make GF 138 str, 70 def dex, 120 attacking dex? they are still a hostile mob to EB passive mob so will still be far more challenging to hunt. thank you for considering[/quote]

[quote="SYN"]+1 to this!! When punching EB's for int ready for the quick change over between KL and WBM, GF are actually 'impossible' they cannot be punched unless you're content with the dungeon run for 1.1% rested XP per pot run. I'd actually suggest +10 Dex on attacking and defense to EB's as they are (as said above) aggressive mobs and they swarm, so will still not be the favoured option to Eb but gives us an alternative that isn't impossible when we don't own Conti. [/quote]

[quote="JAHEIRA"]Everyone else has had to deal with garg fighters , why would a change be needed now The problem is that GF where always seen as a money mob, as they drop a full bag worth of demonic armor every hunt, this imo makes up for there higher dex/ long run Just because money is nothing ingame now shouldn't warrent a change[/quote]

[quote="STRESSSSSSS"]I agree there is a big gap without conti on the standard 'route' of mobs but there are plenty of others if that is such an issue. Gf have huge drop amounts of armour and decent cash, you will always make a profit per each run which makes it more worthwhile. I'm not sure mobs should get adjusted to allow for people to punch them more easily, everything is always harder when punching but that should be expected with the lack of attack and assisting aura's Surely the point is that you have to work harder for the bonus gains of 30/50 str? If not interested in the bonus gain then ab's are good for a while yet[/quote]

[quote="THEHOOD"]Think just has to be accepted that; Some mobs ain't made for punching. Some mobs ain't made to be hunted by people who have 50 less strength. It's a bonus of Conti - without it what does conti have? Drops? I don't think so. But yes lvl 100 humans logging on and off at EB for a laugh doesn't help much, give them something better to do - or make the 30 lvl pk rule valid in race vs race.[/quote]

[quote="RAMYREZ"]I remember I actually preferred hunting GF as the spawn was so dense I didn't have to run around much and just spammed 3rd Knux.[/quote]

[quote="POWPOWPOW"]jaheira what a poor attitude to have - its been a problem for everyone but because you had to push through it no development or changes should occur? wake up. same for thehood - lets have positivity mate. having conti should not be the only route to level, whats the point of PUSHING players to moving up to KL early and using a healer (I believe healer chars are soon to be made illegal as ghostlord said) lets fix the problem instead... how much moaning did you and dei do about not having EB and having to use healers etc ;p (maybe more dei) but es, EB drop epic weaps. GF dropfile is stupid, but at least would be able to hunt. anyway my points still stand - dungeon is unused as the mobs are pointless/old fashioned with their stats. only thing worthwhile is EGF. "stressss" the point of having to work harder is irrelevant, as EB and GF have same str essentially. yet EB is a shite tonne easier to hunt, for the exact same gains. anyone punching their char when we lose conti basically has to stop logging in, this isn't the way it should be. [/quote]

[quote="DEIMOS"]I only started healing when I got to kl ;/ not sure my healer existed much before then, think I only did 1 or 2 levels at eb because I levelled through that point using Pala's and gf while we didn't have conti for about a 3 week stint, just bad timing from conti point of view I believe. Why are healers becoming illegal? Is that more of a stopping people playing more than one char at once? Because that's seems as popular as healers atm[/quote]

[quote="THEHOOD"][quote=]POWPOWPOW same for thehood - lets have positivity mate. having conti should not be the only route to level, whats the point of PUSHING players to moving up to KL early and using a healer (I believe healer chars are soon to be made illegal as ghostlord said) lets fix the problem instead... how much moaning did you and dei do about not having EB and having to use healers etc ;p (maybe more dei) but es, EB drop epic weaps. GF dropfile is stupid, but at least would be able to hunt.[/quote] Look Neoxian just get a grip and stop posting off multiple chars about the same issue agreeing with yourself. Me and Dei worked through what we had to work through leveling wise. We play by the rules, we help people and treat folk with respect. So don't be telling me to be positive. What's to be positive? We can't all farm RDT's and other shit and have a good laugh about it all. Played hard for what we got and that's piss all basically. I never actually lvled at EB so I don't know what your really talking about? I hit n run KL for quests and drops. I'm bow, I got on with it. What you want is a game of mobs focused on what you need and want at that particular time.[/quote]

[quote="POWPOWPOW"]Not arguing with you hoody or correcting your many mistakes in above post. [/quote]

[quote="_JR_"]At that level the 30/50 gains arnt worth worrying about. The wbm bonus and str slows balance your stats back to what you should have.. This was prooved with me and prometheus, One of us had 2str 3dex lower at level 70 but by level 85 we were the exact same stats and we hunted the same mobs My advice is stay as tark paladins as long as possible as they are a hell of alot quicker than GF and EB[/quote]

[quote="_JR_"]Also... You could post off 200,000 chars and it wouldnt make a difference as gm will see you ip on each post[/quote]

[quote="THEHOOD"][quote=]POWPOWPOW Not arguing with you hoody or correcting your many mistakes in above post.[/quote] +1[/quote]

[quote="NUCLEAR"]No offense but everyone else has managed for the past 2 years, which means it's not that big of a deal. The drop file could do with looking at, dropping more relevant pieces etc but that's all.[/quote]

[quote="BRAINSTORM"]deal with the run, i had to run there when i hunted them, i agree with nuclear the drops could be better then demonic/hardened armour dropping [/quote]