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[quote="JACKELPUP"]Elite Lizardman Information (Just for Fun) Kills = 2000 0.1 Dex gain = 173 Kills (7.34% exp) 0.1 Str gain = 196 Kills (8.26% exp) (Based on Character level 85, 104 Dex, 109 Str) Average (on target) shots per kill : 21 Weapon : Stinger (untagged) Barr dropped = 608838 (Average 304 Barr per Elite Lizardman) Items dropped = 103 (Average 1 in 19 drops (5.26% drop rate)) – close enough to assume 5% [b]Drops (Kill number in brackets)[/b] (122) Saw Knuckle (127) Axe Handle (138) Minton’s Jewel (197) Priest Staff (Hardened) & Knight Sword (206) Bone Pads (f) (246) Large HP Pot +50 (249) Bone Pads (m) (276) Axe Handle (299) Bone Pads (f) (338) Axe Handle (374) Bone Pads (m) (Hardened) (375) Akah Crossbow (390) Judgement Axe (419) Saw Knuckle (420) Bone Pads (f) (Hardened) (461) Bone Boots (f) (Rare) (467) Bone Pads (f) (469) Judgement Axe (Hardened) (494) Bone Boots (m) (505) Akah Crossbow (515) Minton’s Jewel (527) Judgement Axe (530) Conqueror Spear (541) Axe Handle (573) Bone Pads (f) (586) Conqueror Spear (606) Large HP Pot +50 (663) Conqueror Spear (Hardened) (678) Conqueror Spear (Hardened) (690) Conqueror Spear (714) Axe Handle (715) Saw Knuckle (761) Axe Handle (772) Bone Boots (f) (797) Large HP Pot +50 (804) Knight Sword (Hardened) (811) Minton’s Jewel (817) Judgement Axe (Hardened) (818) Akah Crossbow (841) Akah Crossbow (Hardened) (862) Bone Boots (f) (878) Axe Handle (893) Conqueror Spear (Hardened) (903) Axe Handle (929) Akah Crossbow (935) Knight sword (Rare) (945) Minton’s Jewel (983) Knight Sword (986) Axe Handle (989) Conqueror Spear & Knight Sword (1018) Saw Knuckle (1049) Large HP Pot +50 (1063) Akah Crossbow (1069) Conqueror Spear (1107) Knight Sword (1121) Bone Boots (m) (1133) Conqueror Spear (1134) Priest Staff (Rare) (1147) Judgement Axe (1160) Minton’s Jewel (1165) Bone Boots (m) (1221) Knight Shield (f) (1279) Axe Handle (1295) Priest Staff (Rare) (1317) Bone Pads (m) (1346) Knight Sword (1363) Minton’s Jewel (1371) Large HP Pot +50 (1377) Large HP Pot +50 (1403) Conqueror Spear (1420) Axe Handle (1424) Bone Boots (f) (1436) Large HP Pot +50 (1454) Priest Staff (1473) Saw Knuckle (Epic) (1475) Bone Pads (m) (Rare) (1479) Judgement Axe (Rare) (1521) Akah Crossbow (1533) Saw Knuckle (1541) Saw Knuckle (1559) Large HP Pot +50 (1566) Large HP Pot +50 (1570) Bone Pads (f) (Hardened) (1574) Knight Sword (1607) Saw Knuckle (Hardened) (1610) Axe Handle (1633) Bone Boots (f) (1636) Akah Crossbow (1652) Minton’s Jewel (1723) Judgement Axe (1771) Knight Sword (1787) Priest Staff (1792) Bone Boots (m) (1810) Priest Staff (Hardened) (1811) Conqueror Spear (Hardened) (1814) Priest Staff (Rare) (1823) Conqueror Spear (Rare) (1905) Knight Sword (1930) Knight Sword (1934) Minton’s Jewel (1935) Axe Handle (1962) Bone Pads (m) [b]Drop Analysis[/b] 1x Knight Shield (1 in 2000) 7x Minton’s Jewel (1 in 286) 7x Priest Staff (1 in 286) 8x Saw Knuckle (1 in 250) 8x HP+50 Pot (1 in 250) 8x Akah Crossbow (1 in 250) 8x Judgement Axe (1 in 250) 9x Bone Boots (1 in 222) 11x Bone Pads (1 in 182) 11x Knight sword (1 in 182) 12x Conqueror Spear (1 in 167) 13x Axe Handle (1 in 154) [b]Tag Analysis[/b] Tagable drops = 73 Un-Tagable drops = 30 Untagged = 51 (69.86%) Hardened = 12 (16.44%) Rare = 9 (12.33%) Epic = 1 (1.37%) Intense = 0 Legendary = 0 [b]Failed Drops (listed in Armoury)[/b] Tower Shield Bow of Force Apus Bow Small Ruby Raw Sword The Crusher Single Shout Scroll [b]Notes[/b] The Elite Lizardmen appear to re-spawn very close to where they are murdered. This is helpful if you are hunting them as you can easily create a small circle to minimise distance between kills. It is irritating if you are hunting Drazil as killing them to get them away from the Drazil is futile. There are a number of areas you can hunt Elite Lizardmen where you have a good view of approaching Devils. On one occasion, where I had an excellent view of approaching Devils, one appeared right next to me (which caused a significant amount of “surprise” and “alarm” especially as I had made a sterling effort to prevent precisely that from happening). It turned out to be Ghostlord (presumably doing his rounds) which was a relief as I failed to find the “TP” button even though my finger is always hovering over it. Initial hunting (around 300 kills) was just under the lake (above the Drazil and around the “lighthouse” Island). The next 800 Kills were by the jetty (right side of lake above Drazil) where the spawn regenerates quickly. Having noticed that certain items were not dropping there, I moved to on and around Drazil Island (just above BLGs) and the lower area of conti between the Leiver beasts and Drazil island. It would appear that some items in the Armoury did not drop and this could be because; 1) The armoury is out of date (Ghostlord stated the Armoury is correct) 2) The drop rate is lower and I just didn’t get one 3) The drops maybe exclusive to specific Elite Lizardmen that I did not kill The “Priest Staffs” were ALL dropped on or around Drazil island (which perhaps indicates “3”) above. 8) Jac [/quote]

[quote="HURRICANE"]Only 6 elite lizard men drop Apus bow on Conti. There spawn rate is every 5mins ish but there drop rate is quite average. This information if from the Esoma db. Don't know if isylver changed it, but I don't think he will have, hope this helps. [/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]Both helpful posts - thank you :) It would be significantly more helpful if you could identify which "six" lizardmen drop the Apus bows Hurricane .... 8) Jac[/quote]

[quote="INVISIBLEMAN"]how do you get all this info on drops? Do you really just write it all down? Thousands of drops?[/quote]

[quote="BASIL"]Coventryin big spawns to of monsters say 24 these will possible be broke down into 6 different spawns in one space, each spawn in the area will possiblely have different drops, so If 5 spawns had 4mobs to it and all 5 had same drop file you'll get all drops, but the 6th spawn only has 2mobs in and revive time is 5minutes so making it already harder. Then if say you have a area where the mobs spawn is big it will be possible that the spawn with 2 will cover the whole area so finding the two will be even harder :p[/quote]

[quote="BASIL"]Dunno what what first line says at all ... Bloody phone:p[/quote]

[quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]JACKELPUP is a boss at monsters[/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"]Always fun to read this. Especially if you're mentioned. o.o *ediy* These lizardmand seem te be dropping well compared to some mobs. Quite interesting.[/quote]

[quote="MIKEYYB93"][quote="INVISIBLEMAN"]how do you get all this info on drops? Do you really just write it all down? Thousands of drops?[/quote] was most likely recorded down by quest item drops[/quote]

[quote="CELTS"]not saying Geek or anything.. but i am guessing you are single [/quote]

[quote="NOTORIOUS"]I love these from pup they're a great reflection on mobs and drops 10/10 :)[/quote]

[quote="WAKKAA"]Pup loves statistics <3 [/quote]

[quote="INVISIBLEMAN"]Deffo using a program to detect and record the drops.[/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]Invisibleman - Mikeyyb93 has it exactly; doing the quests drops an "item" in your bag (weight 0) every kill so keeping track is as simple as looking at the number in your bag. I scribble notes on a piece of paper then transfer it to an Excel sheet where I can automate the stats. (Then copy & paste) Celts - I am married. Marriage is not exempt from an individuals need for escapism! I probably do meet the criteria for "geek" though ;o) 8) Jac [/quote]