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[quote="MITCHY"]Just wondering what's people's views on this... For example Bertha is a a mob which doesn't require a healer / slower but people will log several chars to kill it. Then there is shak and other mobs which need a healer / slower but also allows other players to Kill it without the risk of dying several times. Do you think this is fair to log multiple chars for weak bosses to 'hog' the drops?[/quote]

[quote="HURRICANO"]Gorshak needs a few people to kill it mate or else by yourself it would take you hours on end to kill it. But I do agree with you for bertha.[/quote]

[quote="MITCHY"]Yeah that's what i believe with gorshak or dionaea. So if there isn't many to kill it no harm in setting up a healer and slower to aid it. Not many players will spend 30mins to an hour (roughly) healing for others to kill. So thats socially acceptable i'd say?[/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]There is a spectrum of bosses (just upgraded in the last update) that range from; "easy to solo from a low level" to "impossible to kill unless you have a large number of compatriots" Big Bertha was (is?) an event mob and is easy to take advantage of because of it's predictability and it's location. You don't have that luxury with the other bosses. The higher and better your own character, the easier the higher bosses become ..... Seems fairly good .... Perhaps Bertha is the "bogie" 8) Jac[/quote]

[quote="MITCHY"]yeah bertha is pretty much the only one which i think could be the issue. I don't think anyone who actively kills high high end bosses would complain about one person using multiple chars to tank for the benefit of others. People will say i'm only jealous for having a low lvl char and that i should level harder to be in with a chance of bertha but it's not the case.. I would just say it's fair to all to just use one char.[/quote]

[quote="MITHRIL"]what does bertha drop on hsoma? anything of real note? dsoma one best drop is small white egg. other than that its mainly gems and stuff like gender pots. the birtha thing is a bit of a non issue on dsoma. no idea on your drop file tho[/quote]

[quote="MITCHY"]Ours drops some good items. Diamonds, Rubies, EP's.. All well worth having. It could get to the point where we all have 2 or 3 chars logged in hitting it with bows / magic to get a better chance of killing it. [/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]Just as a bit of fun, here are the Big Bertha Killers .... 01/04/2016 16:57 Big Bertha Ace 10/04/2016 23:05 Big Bertha Ace 29/04/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Ace 09/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Ace 11/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Ace 25/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Ace 15/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Ace 20/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Ace 07/04/2016 07:04 Big Bertha Ahu 27/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Ahu 07/04/2016 03:05 Big Bertha Alakazam 11/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Alakazam 19/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Alakazam 26/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Alakazam 14/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Biggy 20/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Biggy 03/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Biggy 05/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Biggy 10/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Biggy 16/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Biggy 22/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Biggy 23/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Biggy 24/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Biggy 03/06/2016 23:09 Big Bertha Biggy 04/06/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Biggy 01/04/2016 20:57 Big Bertha Bradley_Cole 03/04/2016 23:04 Big Bertha Bradley_Cole 29/04/2016 11:10 Big Bertha Bradley_Cole 27/03/2016 00:29 Big Bertha Braindata 18/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Braindata 01/06/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Braindata 28/04/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Ceo_008 29/04/2016 17:38 Big Bertha Ceo_008 16/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Ceo_008 20/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Ceo_008 21/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Ceo_008 03/06/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Ceo_008 04/06/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Ceo_008 12/04/2016 03:04 Big Bertha Chewie 26/03/2016 21:07 Big Bertha Chronos 05/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Chronos 07/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Chronos 07/04/2016 23:05 Big Bertha Chronos 15/04/2016 03:05 Big Bertha Chronos 22/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Chronos 29/03/2016 08:57 Big Bertha Chunk 08/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Chunk 11/04/2016 23:04 Big Bertha Chunk 12/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Chunk 13/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Chunk 21/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Chunk 26/04/2016 19:41 Big Bertha Chunk 26/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha CND 23/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Crash 27/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Crash 03/04/2016 00:58 Big Bertha Cyrox 06/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Cyrox 09/05/2016 23:11 Big Bertha Cyrox 10/05/2016 15:10 Big Bertha Cyrox 07/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 13/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 17/04/2016 03:04 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 19/04/2016 15:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 20/04/2016 11:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 25/04/2016 03:11 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 01/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 04/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 06/05/2016 11:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 12/05/2016 15:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 14/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 15/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 16/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 16/05/2016 15:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 18/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 19/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 19/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 21/05/2016 16:59 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 22/05/2016 03:11 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 23/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 23/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 25/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 27/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 28/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 29/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 29/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 30/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 31/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 02/06/2016 03:13 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 02/06/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 04/06/2016 03:12 Big Bertha Dabaoqian 12/04/2016 23:04 Big Bertha Devula 17/04/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Devula 20/04/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Devula 04/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Devula 27/05/2016 23:09 Big Bertha Devula 02/06/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Dona 03/06/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Dona 07/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Donatello 31/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Donatello 29/03/2016 16:57 Big Bertha Draxler 28/04/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Elin 02/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Elin 05/04/2016 23:05 Big Bertha Elric 10/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Elric 15/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Erebor 17/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Erebor 29/03/2016 00:57 Big Bertha Flickthebean 01/04/2016 00:57 Big Bertha Flickthebean 04/04/2016 03:04 Big Bertha Flickthebean 04/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Flickthebean 11/04/2016 03:05 Big Bertha Flickthebean 13/04/2016 03:05 Big Bertha Flickthebean 30/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Flickthebean 06/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Flickthebean 07/05/2016 16:14 Big Bertha Flickthebean 14/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Flickthebean 25/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Flickthebean 25/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Flickthebean 26/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Flickthebean 28/05/2016 23:09 Big Bertha Flickthebean 28/03/2016 12:58 Big Bertha Gandalf 09/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Gandalf 03/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Gandalf 20/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Gandalf 21/05/2016 11:10 Big Bertha Gandalf 21/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Gandalf 28/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Gandalf 15/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha GanonPK 16/04/2016 23:04 Big Bertha GanonPK 17/04/2016 11:03 Big Bertha GanonPK 04/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha GanonPK 08/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha GanonPK 29/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha GanonPK 04/06/2016 15:09 Big Bertha GanonPK 09/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Gisado 16/04/2016 15:03 Big Bertha Gisado 09/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Gisado 21/05/2016 05:46 Big Bertha Gisado 02/05/2016 03:09 Big Bertha Horus 28/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Horus 28/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Horus 29/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Horus 29/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Horus 01/05/2016 19:11 Big Bertha Hurricane 02/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Hurricane 05/05/2016 19:11 Big Bertha Hurricane 30/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Hurricane 02/06/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Hurricane 26/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Icaros 04/04/2016 07:05 Big Bertha Isco 04/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Isco 12/04/2016 07:04 Big Bertha Isco 13/04/2016 07:05 Big Bertha Isco 04/04/2016 23:04 Big Bertha Ivor 11/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Ivor 13/04/2016 23:04 Big Bertha Ivor 16/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Ivor 09/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha J0ker 10/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Jackelpup 03/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Jane 09/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Jane 27/05/2016 20:07 Big Bertha Jhaelien 03/06/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Jhaelien 28/03/2016 08:57 Big Bertha Jumal 30/03/2016 04:58 Big Bertha Jumal 31/03/2016 16:57 Big Bertha Jumal 16/04/2016 07:04 Big Bertha Jumal 29/04/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Jumal 04/05/2016 03:11 Big Bertha Jumal 07/05/2016 03:11 Big Bertha Jumal 26/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Jumal 06/04/2016 03:05 Big Bertha Kajoken 17/04/2016 07:04 Big Bertha Kajoken 22/04/2016 07:11 Big Bertha Kajoken 02/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Kajoken 04/05/2016 05:14 Big Bertha Kajoken 05/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Kajoken 12/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Kajoken 14/05/2016 03:12 Big Bertha Kajoken 15/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Kajoken 17/05/2016 23:12 Big Bertha Kajoken 24/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Kajoken 30/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Kajoken 31/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Kajoken 15/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Kazuo 10/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Kelthusad 01/06/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Kelthusad 23/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Kijunkue 31/03/2016 04:57 Big Bertha Kily 31/03/2016 12:57 Big Bertha Kily 01/04/2016 08:57 Big Bertha Kily 27/03/2016 08:29 Big Bertha King Arthur 09/04/2016 03:04 Big Bertha King_Arthur 30/03/2016 20:57 Big Bertha Knuckles 02/04/2016 12:57 Big Bertha Knuckles 14/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Knutsel 02/04/2016 16:57 Big Bertha Ladybell 09/04/2016 23:06 Big Bertha Ladybell 14/04/2016 23:04 Big Bertha Ladybell 19/04/2016 11:10 Big Bertha Ladybell 28/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Ladybell 30/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Ladybell 26/03/2016 13:53 Big Bertha Lafite 02/04/2016 00:57 Big Bertha Lafite 03/04/2016 12:57 Big Bertha Lafite 06/05/2016 19:11 Big Bertha Lafite 07/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Lafite 18/05/2016 03:09 Big Bertha Lafite 13/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Langstaff 03/04/2016 04:58 Big Bertha Laobans 05/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Laobans 08/04/2016 07:05 Big Bertha Laobans 12/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Laobans 14/04/2016 07:04 Big Bertha Laobans 15/04/2016 07:05 Big Bertha Laobans 21/04/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Laobans 10/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Laobans 26/05/2016 15:10 Big Bertha Laobans 03/06/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Leo 13/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha LinkDX 14/05/2016 23:09 Big Bertha LinkDX 05/04/2016 19:05 Big Bertha Lordcoos 25/04/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Lordcoos 22/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Lordcoos 05/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Lordgd 02/04/2016 20:57 Big Bertha Magicalape 30/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Maizhiying 02/06/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Maizhiying 09/04/2016 07:04 Big Bertha Mamba 24/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Matthew 27/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Matthew 06/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Mitchy 18/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Mitchy 24/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Mitchy 19/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Monsterman 25/04/2016 11:10 Big Bertha Monsterman 14/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Monsterman 15/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Monsterman 17/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Monsterman 17/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Monsterman 23/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Monsterman 31/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Monsterman 01/06/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Monsterman 28/03/2016 20:57 Big Bertha N0legs 31/03/2016 00:57 Big Bertha N0legs 02/04/2016 04:58 Big Bertha N0legs 05/04/2016 03:05 Big Bertha N0legs 06/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha N0legs 18/04/2016 11:10 Big Bertha N0legs 22/04/2016 03:11 Big Bertha N0legs 25/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha N0legs 29/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha N0legs 30/04/2016 11:09 Big Bertha N0legs 30/04/2016 15:09 Big Bertha N0legs 02/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha N0legs 09/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha N0legs 09/05/2016 11:10 Big Bertha N0legs 15/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha N0legs 16/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha N0legs 17/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha N0legs 17/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha N0legs 19/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha N0legs 21/05/2016 03:11 Big Bertha N0legs 02/05/2016 13:52 Big Bertha Nite 31/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Nite 03/06/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Nite 20/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Ocd 26/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Ocd 27/04/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Ocd 02/05/2016 11:13 Big Bertha OCD 06/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha OCD 08/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha OCD 10/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha OCD 12/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha OCD 13/05/2016 11:10 Big Bertha OCD 16/05/2016 03:11 Big Bertha OCD 20/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha OCD 22/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Ocd 29/03/2016 20:57 Big Bertha Openthedoor 30/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Openthedoor 06/04/2016 11:05 Big Bertha Papapilas 08/04/2016 23:04 Big Bertha Papapilas 13/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Papapilas 15/04/2016 23:05 Big Bertha Papapilas 17/04/2016 23:11 Big Bertha Papapilas 25/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Papapilas 28/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Papapilas 07/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Papapilas 19/05/2016 23:09 Big Bertha Papapilas 01/06/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Papapilas 25/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Phobos 01/06/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Pikutin 10/04/2016 07:05 Big Bertha Quicksilver 27/03/2016 04:29 Big Bertha Quiksilver 31/03/2016 20:57 Big Bertha Quiksilver 01/04/2016 05:46 Big Bertha Quiksilver 28/03/2016 04:58 Big Bertha Rainbow 29/03/2016 12:57 Big Bertha Rainbow 30/03/2016 00:58 Big Bertha Rainbow 04/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Rainbow 05/04/2016 07:04 Big Bertha Rainbow 10/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Rainbow 11/04/2016 07:05 Big Bertha Rainbow 21/04/2016 03:11 Big Bertha Rainbow 25/04/2016 15:10 Big Bertha Rainbow 01/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Rainbow 03/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Rainbow 06/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Rainbow 08/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Rainbow 21/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Rainbow 30/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Rainbow 26/03/2016 17:56 Big Bertha Rare 30/03/2016 12:57 Big Bertha Rare 31/03/2016 08:58 Big Bertha Rare 07/04/2016 19:05 Big Bertha Rare 12/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Rare 19/04/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Rare 05/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Rare 08/05/2016 11:06 Big Bertha Rare 20/04/2016 15:10 Big Bertha Redraven 24/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Redraven 18/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Redraven 20/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Redraven 27/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Redraven 18/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Riquelme 04/05/2016 23:09 Big Bertha Ryuken 18/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Sagitarium 01/04/2016 12:58 Big Bertha Sandokan 11/04/2016 19:04 Big Bertha Sandokan 22/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Sandokan 12/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Sandoken 08/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Sarin 29/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Secret 19/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Secret 26/03/2016 20:30 Big Bertha Selene 16/04/2016 19:05 Big Bertha Shailo 11/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Shailo 11/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Shailo 20/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Shailo 31/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Sith 27/03/2016 12:28 Big Bertha Slither 30/03/2016 16:58 Big Bertha Slither 20/04/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Slither 13/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Slither 03/05/2016 11:10 Big Bertha Sns 06/04/2016 07:04 Big Bertha Sonic 10/04/2016 03:05 Big Bertha Sonic 19/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Sonic 28/04/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Sonorous 12/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Sonorous 13/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha Sybertooth 12/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Thdaudtjd 24/04/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Tivoli 26/03/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Tolic 03/04/2016 08:57 Big Bertha Tolic 23/05/2016 19:22 Big Bertha Tyrone 30/03/2016 08:57 Big Bertha Valencia 08/04/2016 11:04 Big Bertha Valencia 14/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha Valencia 16/04/2016 03:04 Big Bertha Valencia 18/04/2016 03:11 Big Bertha Valencia 21/04/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Valencia 01/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Valencia 11/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha Valencia 24/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha Valencia 03/05/2016 23:12 Big Bertha Varok 27/05/2016 11:09 Big Bertha Varok 27/03/2016 16:28 Big Bertha VIP_QG 28/03/2016 16:57 Big Bertha VIP_QG 08/04/2016 03:05 Big Bertha VIP_QG 11/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha VIP_QG 14/04/2016 03:04 Big Bertha VIP_QG 15/04/2016 15:04 Big Bertha VIP_QG 18/04/2016 19:09 Big Bertha VIP_QG 18/04/2016 19:09 Big Bertha VIP_QG 26/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 26/04/2016 23:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 28/04/2016 15:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 29/04/2016 15:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 30/04/2016 03:09 Big Bertha VIP_QG 01/05/2016 07:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 04/05/2016 11:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 08/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 10/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 11/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha VIP_QG 15/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha VIP_QG 18/05/2016 07:09 Big Bertha VIP_QG 25/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha VIP_QG 28/05/2016 03:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 01/06/2016 15:10 Big Bertha VIP_QG 08/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha War 08/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha War 01/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Willow 01/05/2016 23:10 Big Bertha Willow 24/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Yu_Go_Oh 13/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Zyar 13/05/2016 19:10 Big Bertha Zyar 21/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Zyar 21/05/2016 15:09 Big Bertha Zyar 29/05/2016 19:09 Big Bertha Zyar [/quote]

[quote="FLICKTHEBEAN"]*flexes bertha killing skrillz*[/quote]

[quote="MITCHY"]What would really make it interesting is attempts to kills ratio :P [/quote]

[quote="LORDCOOS"]jackel you are a legend[/quote]

[quote="KEKKET"]Can u filter them on date? ;)[/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="KEKKET"]Can u filter them on date? ;)[/quote] I can, it might clog up the thread. What you looking for ? 8) Jac[/quote]

[quote="KEKKET"]Dsoma ones ;)[/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]Sadly, I have no Dsoma data (I can't understand Devil World) Sorry ... 8( Jac[/quote]