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agreed the upgrade system is pretty brutal, wich would be ok if you could get the bits to be able to risk upgrades, i only play dsoma, only had 2 epic weaps drop for me in all time of character life, to me they arent worth risking on upgrades, most of my gear has come from older generation players, did everything drop more often in the early days?
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[quote="DEIMOS"]agreed the upgrade system is pretty brutal, wich would be ok if you could get the bits to be able to risk upgrades, i only play dsoma, only had 2 epic weaps drop for me in all time of character life, to me they arent worth risking on upgrades, most of my gear has come from older generation players, did everything drop more often in the early days?[/quote]
"DEIMOS" did everything drop more often in the early days?


Only due to more monsters that drop them being killed, older generation of chars were about in the biggest usercount boon. To actually collect things yourself is always hard on soma, all about trades to get what you need. Or amazing luck.
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[quote="FLICKTHEBEAN"][quote="DEIMOS"] did everything drop more often in the early days?[/quote] Only due to more monsters that drop them being killed, older generation of chars were about in the biggest usercount boon. To actually collect things yourself is always hard on soma, all about trades to get what you need. Or amazing luck.[/quote]
"DEIMOS"agreed the upgrade system is pretty brutal, wich would be ok if you could get the bits to be able to risk upgrades, i only play dsoma, only had 2 epic weaps drop for me in all time of character life, to me they arent worth risking on upgrades, most of my gear has come from older generation players, did everything drop more often in the early days?


I feel they did, on my mage iv had a full set of intense dread, intense diabolic, lvling my archer had a epic grim bow, lvling my spear epic SoD, Epic cut throat spear, after this point is when all drops was moved about, and armors added to mobs, had nothing from AB , nothing from WBM
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="DEIMOS"]agreed the upgrade system is pretty brutal, wich would be ok if you could get the bits to be able to risk upgrades, i only play dsoma, only had 2 epic weaps drop for me in all time of character life, to me they arent worth risking on upgrades, most of my gear has come from older generation players, did everything drop more often in the early days?[/quote] I feel they did, on my mage iv had a full set of intense dread, intense diabolic, lvling my archer had a epic grim bow, lvling my spear epic SoD, Epic cut throat spear, after this point is when all drops was moved about, and armors added to mobs, had nothing from AB , nothing from WBM[/quote]
JAHEIRA

I feel they did, on my mage iv had a full set of intense dread, intense diabolic, lvling my archer had a epic grim bow, lvling my spear epic SoD, Epic cut throat spear, after this point is when all drops was moved about, and armors added to mobs, had nothing from AB , nothing from WBM


Aye definitely - well 30 Lvls at WBM on TheHood... 27 on Arthur...
Obviously not ALL in conti but a fair amount and never had anything but a sparse untag.
There is actually nothing good about WBM in Conti.
The Barr drop is same as Hwan, you don't get helms/Diab hats to sell for Barr to shop, high end wep drops are totally buggered and have been for far too long.
As someone said earlier it makes a big difference to have a high end wep on your stash waiting to be used or a drop.
Another shambles is the 2.5k Wbm repeatable quest - untag staff, untag schimatar sword, untag axe doom.
A 2.5k mob kill reward shouldn't be dropped a second after it's received.
I broke 2 bows otherday adding az pills that gave me +18 recoil and broke going +2.
They weren't very good bows cause I don't have any but worth a shot.
Traded an RDT for my only epic grim and it's a shit one.
Personally in over 90 levels all I've had is an epic spear.
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[quote="THEHOOD"][quote=JAHEIRA] I feel they did, on my mage iv had a full set of intense dread, intense diabolic, lvling my archer had a epic grim bow, lvling my spear epic SoD, Epic cut throat spear, after this point is when all drops was moved about, and armors added to mobs, had nothing from AB , nothing from WBM[/quote] Aye definitely - well 30 Lvls at WBM on TheHood... 27 on Arthur... Obviously not ALL in conti but a fair amount and never had anything but a sparse untag. There is actually nothing good about WBM in Conti. The Barr drop is same as Hwan, you don't get helms/Diab hats to sell for Barr to shop, high end wep drops are totally buggered and have been for far too long. As someone said earlier it makes a big difference to have a high end wep on your stash waiting to be used or a drop. Another shambles is the 2.5k Wbm repeatable quest - untag staff, untag schimatar sword, untag axe doom. A 2.5k mob kill reward shouldn't be dropped a second after it's received. I broke 2 bows otherday adding az pills that gave me +18 recoil and broke going +2. They weren't very good bows cause I don't have any but worth a shot. Traded an RDT for my only epic grim and it's a shit one. Personally in over 90 levels all I've had is an epic spear.[/quote]
Even a simple upgrade shop where you have to hunt for tokens that all mobs can drop would be nice, upgrades and decent weapons are just so rare now the Usercount has dropped. Even if you get a good item it's hard to trade it for something you actually need.

Upgrading and getting items is the only thing left for people to do and what people
Enjoy and it's really hard at the moment. There's even people camping bosses which isn't necessarily unfair but it makes getting drops that little bit harder.

Would be nice for everyone to build a good set of second to top tier weapons and armours (hopefully a new tier comes in so we can make a current top tier set) and make the new tier of weapons upgrades and armour rarer. Will improve PVP if everyone can get some half decent gear. I believe it's what other MMOs do. Some games like WOW even give you a high level character with half decent gear
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[quote="MAIZHIYING"]Even a simple upgrade shop where you have to hunt for tokens that all mobs can drop would be nice, upgrades and decent weapons are just so rare now the Usercount has dropped. Even if you get a good item it's hard to trade it for something you actually need. Upgrading and getting items is the only thing left for people to do and what people Enjoy and it's really hard at the moment. There's even people camping bosses which isn't necessarily unfair but it makes getting drops that little bit harder. Would be nice for everyone to build a good set of second to top tier weapons and armours (hopefully a new tier comes in so we can make a current top tier set) and make the new tier of weapons upgrades and armour rarer. Will improve PVP if everyone can get some half decent gear. I believe it's what other MMOs do. Some games like WOW even give you a high level character with half decent gear[/quote]
People spent hours and hours killing those Christmas scythes on test to farm upgrades and elfs/pammoths for weapons. It was good
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[quote="MAIZHIYING"]People spent hours and hours killing those Christmas scythes on test to farm upgrades and elfs/pammoths for weapons. It was good [/quote]
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[quote="_SEPHIROTH_"]double post[/quote]
"GHOSTLORD"I've seen people type about esoma rates, but only a few really want that.


Thats basically like saying, "only a few really want a server that lasts a few years".

You could of increased the cap a year ago an it still would of been too late. The damage was already done after 12 months, those players wont be coming back.

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[quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]I've seen people type about esoma rates, but only a few really want that.[/quote] Thats basically like saying, "only a few really want a server that lasts a few years". You could of increased the cap a year ago an it still would of been too late. The damage was already done after 12 months, those players wont be coming back. [/quote]
"MAIZHIYING"I know you have to be stern with your respnoses about wiping but a lot of people would like it. Wouldn't you even consider it? Speak to the people.

Or a side server for PVP, or even a slow server on the side Esoma rates just see how it goes. I can imagine it would be a lot more popular and everyone will end up going just to see people again!

Xx


I think a side server with esoma rates and limited start content as discussed with content roll out would solve this. Its the best of both world's and Gms can see if its a success or not by the Uc with out anyone loosing anything from the first server..
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[quote="ACAELUS"][quote="MAIZHIYING"]I know you have to be stern with your respnoses about wiping but a lot of people would like it. Wouldn't you even consider it? Speak to the people. Or a side server for PVP, or even a slow server on the side Esoma rates just see how it goes. I can imagine it would be a lot more popular and everyone will end up going just to see people again! Xx[/quote] I think a side server with esoma rates and limited start content as discussed with content roll out would solve this. Its the best of both world's and Gms can see if its a success or not by the Uc with out anyone loosing anything from the first server..[/quote]
"ACAELUS"
"MAIZHIYING"I know you have to be stern with your respnoses about wiping but a lot of people would like it. Wouldn't you even consider it? Speak to the people.

Or a side server for PVP, or even a slow server on the side Esoma rates just see how it goes. I can imagine it would be a lot more popular and everyone will end up going just to see people again!

Xx


I think a side server with esoma rates and limited start content as discussed with content roll out would solve this. Its the best of both world's and Gms can see if its a success or not by the Uc with out anyone loosing anything from the first server..


You start this side server aca .. u pay for it... u do all the new stuff incorporated into this server .. and enjoy the company of all the ppl it will attract.. easy fix..

Its free here... u have the choice to play or not play.
Gm's im sure are used to a few moans and whines..and suggestions etc...but ur going a bit OTT badgering for stuff that you've been told isnt gona happen...

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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="ACAELUS"][quote="MAIZHIYING"]I know you have to be stern with your respnoses about wiping but a lot of people would like it. Wouldn't you even consider it? Speak to the people. Or a side server for PVP, or even a slow server on the side Esoma rates just see how it goes. I can imagine it would be a lot more popular and everyone will end up going just to see people again! Xx[/quote] I think a side server with esoma rates and limited start content as discussed with content roll out would solve this. Its the best of both world's and Gms can see if its a success or not by the Uc with out anyone loosing anything from the first server..[/quote] You start this side server aca .. u pay for it... u do all the new stuff incorporated into this server .. and enjoy the company of all the ppl it will attract.. easy fix.. Its free here... u have the choice to play or not play. Gm's im sure are used to a few moans and whines..and suggestions etc...but ur going a bit OTT badgering for stuff that you've been told isnt gona happen... [/quote]
Paying for it is not an issue. Happy to suplly funds.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Paying for it is not an issue. Happy to suplly funds.[/quote]
"ACAELUS"Paying for it is not an issue. Happy to suplly funds.


But u want them to set it all up and maintain it with their time and expertise?
YOU set it up ;p
( time is in short supply for this server ..they aint likely to have time to pee about with another too )
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="ACAELUS"]Paying for it is not an issue. Happy to suplly funds.[/quote] But u want them to set it all up and maintain it with their time and expertise? YOU set it up ;p ( time is in short supply for this server ..they aint likely to have time to pee about with another too )[/quote]
There is a fair few poeple on here who can "set it up" lupi..
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[quote="ACAELUS"]There is a fair few poeple on here who can "set it up" lupi..[/quote]
well, that's good i guess... i'm stayin here tho.. time invested and all that
''safe '' here.. we get looked after.. updates in the pipeline .. and evrythin runs nice n smooth 99.99% of the time..can't argue with that
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]well, that's good i guess... i'm stayin here tho.. time invested and all that ''safe '' here.. we get looked after.. updates in the pipeline .. and evrythin runs nice n smooth 99.99% of the time..can't argue with that[/quote]
"MAIZHIYING"Even a simple upgrade shop where you have to hunt for tokens that all mobs can drop would be nice, upgrades and decent weapons are just so rare now the Usercount has dropped. Even if you get a good item it's hard to trade it for something you actually need.

Upgrading and getting items is the only thing left for people to do and what people
Enjoy and it's really hard at the moment. There's even people camping bosses which isn't necessarily unfair but it makes getting drops that little bit harder.

Would be nice for everyone to build a good set of second to top tier weapons and armours (hopefully a new tier comes in so we can make a current top tier set) and make the new tier of weapons upgrades and armour rarer. Will improve PVP if everyone can get some half decent gear. I believe it's what other MMOs do. Some games like WOW even give you a high level character with half decent gear


All this would be made easier to just limit upgrades to +3 max? i think that would work better anyway.
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[quote="KAIDONE"][quote="MAIZHIYING"]Even a simple upgrade shop where you have to hunt for tokens that all mobs can drop would be nice, upgrades and decent weapons are just so rare now the Usercount has dropped. Even if you get a good item it's hard to trade it for something you actually need. Upgrading and getting items is the only thing left for people to do and what people Enjoy and it's really hard at the moment. There's even people camping bosses which isn't necessarily unfair but it makes getting drops that little bit harder. Would be nice for everyone to build a good set of second to top tier weapons and armours (hopefully a new tier comes in so we can make a current top tier set) and make the new tier of weapons upgrades and armour rarer. Will improve PVP if everyone can get some half decent gear. I believe it's what other MMOs do. Some games like WOW even give you a high level character with half decent gear[/quote] All this would be made easier to just limit upgrades to +3 max? i think that would work better anyway.[/quote]

 

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