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"RHAEGAR"
The problem isn't that people can or cant play on higher resolutions, it is that the bow was intended to be the range of an 800x600 resolution screen.

Now that we play on higher resolutions the effective range of the bow is now vastly higher than it was intended, and much higher than it should be.


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[quote="FUJITORA"][quote="RHAEGAR"] The problem isn't that people can or cant play on higher resolutions, it is that the bow was intended to be the range of an 800x600 resolution screen. Now that we play on higher resolutions the effective range of the bow is now vastly higher than it was intended, and much higher than it should be.[/quote] [/quote]
bow has been nurfed enough with the lower dodge rate, bow range isn't to the edge of the screen anyway.
plenty of times my char takes a few steps before shooting ONE arrow because the target isn't in range when I click on it. maybe the arrows you see flying from one side of the screen to the other are arrows that have missed their target!

Are you all on drugs or something?
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[quote="SCOIN"]bow has been nurfed enough with the lower dodge rate, bow range isn't to the edge of the screen anyway. plenty of times my char takes a few steps before shooting ONE arrow because the target isn't in range when I click on it. maybe the arrows you see flying from one side of the screen to the other are arrows that have missed their target! Are you all on drugs or something?[/quote]
Wonder what % of Dev toons are bow users? I bet it's high and the reasons are obvious.
End game archer always been unkillable w / highest con and dex makes for tough kill on stone, near impossible if moving. Attack range greater than 800 x 600 display, maintaining auto-click target through feather, and after death further op class.
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[quote="ARRIS"]Wonder what % of Dev toons are bow users? I bet it's high and the reasons are obvious. End game archer always been unkillable w / highest con and dex makes for tough kill on stone, near impossible if moving. Attack range greater than 800 x 600 display, maintaining auto-click target through feather, and after death further op class.[/quote]
well these claims some ppl do are hilarious bows range is still range 9 on any resolution you decide to play
the higher ress helps only to increase the size of the map but there is a small trick and its not even bows range fault nor the ressolution one.

I used to do this on TEST when isylver allowed us to change ressolutions,i got accused for using a map hack tho
click lock makes it easier now i guess tho.

When you attack a player and spam feathers even if get out of his range screen the person still gets hit from your last arrow which you eventualy were to a closer spot.

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[quote="MANTICORE"]well these claims some ppl do are hilarious bows range is still range 9 on any resolution you decide to play the higher ress helps only to increase the size of the map but there is a small trick and its not even bows range fault nor the ressolution one. I used to do this on TEST when isylver allowed us to change ressolutions,i got accused for using a map hack tho click lock makes it easier now i guess tho. When you attack a player and spam feathers even if get out of his range screen the person still gets hit from your last arrow which you eventualy were to a closer spot. [/quote]
Lol scoin, what you don't seem to understand is that no you can not hit the edge of the screen your right as there is a cut off of 1 range, yet if you was to increase your res you would be able to hit thurther then a normal 800 res, but still not the edge of your screen. And no the arrow hit the target off screen there weren't missed arrows, plenty of blood splats...

Yes your right manti u can spam feathers and seem to hit from miles away but on these higher res it seems people can still go over the 9 range...

I dont mean for this thread to be an argument but said character has admitted to being able to hit nearly 3 normal screens away having linked to huge tv lol. Also I have seen it with my own eyes on numerous occasions.

I wish I was on drugs scoin but sadly I've grown out of that and have responsibilities that require soberness. Sucks right? Lol...

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[quote="SKIEBLUE"]Lol scoin, what you don't seem to understand is that no you can not hit the edge of the screen your right as there is a cut off of 1 range, yet if you was to increase your res you would be able to hit thurther then a normal 800 res, but still not the edge of your screen. And no the arrow hit the target off screen there weren't missed arrows, plenty of blood splats... Yes your right manti u can spam feathers and seem to hit from miles away but on these higher res it seems people can still go over the 9 range... I dont mean for this thread to be an argument but said character has admitted to being able to hit nearly 3 normal screens away having linked to huge tv lol. Also I have seen it with my own eyes on numerous occasions. I wish I was on drugs scoin but sadly I've grown out of that and have responsibilities that require soberness. Sucks right? Lol... [/quote]
It's not like this is cheating. So I don't see why we can't name the players who do this to see how big the problem is?
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]It's not like this is cheating. So I don't see why we can't name the players who do this to see how big the problem is? [/quote]
Don't let old age ruin your recreational drug use! is all I can add to this. just say no and carry on:)
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[quote="SCOIN"]Don't let old age ruin your recreational drug use! is all I can add to this. just say no and carry on:)[/quote]
It is a bit sad that Soma is Myth of Bows now.

Wouldn't it be nice if there was more variety in weapons used?

I think remove trace for a start, it ruins many aspects of the game and promotes grieffing and harrasment.

Then the next quick option is to lower dmg on all bows to make up for the range.

People wont like this, because they're bow users, but have the most dex, great damage and range is just ridiculously overpowered. Proof of this is that this is myth of bows.
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[quote="CIROSE"]It is a bit sad that Soma is Myth of Bows now. Wouldn't it be nice if there was more variety in weapons used? I think remove trace for a start, it ruins many aspects of the game and promotes grieffing and harrasment. Then the next quick option is to lower dmg on all bows to make up for the range. People wont like this, because they're bow users, but have the most dex, great damage and range is just ridiculously overpowered. Proof of this is that this is myth of bows.[/quote]
bows range reduced by 2 on next reboots (7 range)
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[quote="REHLINA"]bows range reduced by 2 on next reboots (7 range)[/quote]
Some has always been myth of bows, nux is better if you want faster levelling where as bow is better for pvp. Leveling with bow is slow, reducing damage and range would just make it even slower.
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[quote="TWITCH"]Some has always been myth of bows, nux is better if you want faster levelling where as bow is better for pvp. Leveling with bow is slow, reducing damage and range would just make it even slower.[/quote]
I don't really understand this thread. I have a somewhat higher resolution, but I most definitely can't hit across my whole screen, and certainly not three screens wide.
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[quote="IMCON"]I don't really understand this thread. I have a somewhat higher resolution, but I most definitely can't hit across my whole screen, and certainly not three screens wide.[/quote]
The advantage granted by "High" range 9 has become more obvious due to players now being able to see 9 range plus.

Here is a screen of 800 x 600 display and range (6 range to edge of screen);
http://myth-of-soma.com/Gallery/Uploads/671d9db8e11359269194702cd388fb80.PNG

Now here's a view of higher supported resolutions (appears 12 ~18 view to edge);
http://myth-of-soma.com/Gallery/Uploads/733f67828af95164d9c695a53a47297f.PNG
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[quote="ARRIS"]The advantage granted by "High" range 9 has become more obvious due to players now being able to see 9 range plus. Here is a screen of 800 x 600 display and range (6 range to edge of screen); http://myth-of-soma.com/Gallery/Uploads/671d9db8e11359269194702cd388fb80.PNG Now here's a view of higher supported resolutions (appears 12 ~18 view to edge); http://myth-of-soma.com/Gallery/Uploads/733f67828af95164d9c695a53a47297f.PNG[/quote]
"CIROSE"It is a bit sad that Soma is Myth of Bows now.

Wouldn't it be nice if there was more variety in weapons used?

I think remove trace for a start, it ruins many aspects of the game and promotes grieffing and harrasment.

Then the next quick option is to lower dmg on all bows to make up for the range.

People wont like this, because they're bow users, but have the most dex, great damage and range is just ridiculously overpowered. Proof of this is that this is myth of bows.


Can i just add , regardless that the forum whiners got there way as usual...

I dont know about Hsoma but on Dsoma this whole myth of archer lark is a load of nonsense, maybe at early stages there was a lot but now there is no more than any others, and tbh i see more spear/sword about now .

And as for lowering bow damage? why do people make these comments having no idea about the game and just using old Esoma as a reference ?
Bows already have the lowest dmg , min damage by quite a lot, i can hit from 230-290 that's a big range , other classes of the same lvl have min of like 280-290 "Min"

Yer we have the higher dex as we should , we cannot wear a shield which on dsoma makes players very hard to kill as it adds a lot of def and one handed weps being higher damage than bows still. can people show me proof of these claims they make? or dont bother.

Trace does not promote harrassment thats just the player, same as a gun does not kill, the person pulling the trigger does.

i play on a 46" screen and you could never hit from 3 screens away, was it rage that told you this by any chance?

p.s Funny how most people in the lets ruin archers completely club are wearing staffs/mages . biased much?
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[quote="VEX"][quote="CIROSE"]It is a bit sad that Soma is Myth of Bows now. Wouldn't it be nice if there was more variety in weapons used? I think remove trace for a start, it ruins many aspects of the game and promotes grieffing and harrasment. Then the next quick option is to lower dmg on all bows to make up for the range. People wont like this, because they're bow users, but have the most dex, great damage and range is just ridiculously overpowered. Proof of this is that this is myth of bows.[/quote] Can i just add , regardless that the forum whiners got there way as usual... I dont know about Hsoma but on Dsoma this whole myth of archer lark is a load of nonsense, maybe at early stages there was a lot but now there is no more than any others, and tbh i see more spear/sword about now . And as for lowering bow damage? why do people make these comments having no idea about the game and just using old Esoma as a reference ? Bows already have the lowest dmg , min damage by quite a lot, i can hit from 230-290 that's a big range , other classes of the same lvl have min of like 280-290 "Min" Yer we have the higher dex as we should , we cannot wear a shield which on dsoma makes players very hard to kill as it adds a lot of def and one handed weps being higher damage than bows still. can people show me proof of these claims they make? or dont bother. Trace does not promote harrassment thats just the player, same as a gun does not kill, the person pulling the trigger does. i play on a 46" screen and you could never hit from 3 screens away, was it rage that told you this by any chance? p.s Funny how most people in the lets ruin archers completely club are wearing staffs/mages . biased much?[/quote]
"VEX"
"CIROSE"It is a bit sad that Soma is Myth of Bows now.

Wouldn't it be nice if there was more variety in weapons used?

I think remove trace for a start, it ruins many aspects of the game and promotes grieffing and harrasment.

Then the next quick option is to lower dmg on all bows to make up for the range.

People wont like this, because they're bow users, but have the most dex, great damage and range is just ridiculously overpowered. Proof of this is that this is myth of bows.


Can i just add , regardless that the forum whiners got there way as usual...

I dont know about Hsoma but on Dsoma this whole myth of archer lark is a load of nonsense, maybe at early stages there was a lot but now there is no more than any others, and tbh i see more spear/sword about now .

And as for lowering bow damage? why do people make these comments having no idea about the game and just using old Esoma as a reference ?
Bows already have the lowest dmg , min damage by quite a lot, i can hit from 230-290 that's a big range , other classes of the same lvl have min of like 280-290 "Min"

Yer we have the higher dex as we should , we cannot wear a shield which on dsoma makes players very hard to kill as it adds a lot of def and one handed weps being higher damage than bows still. can people show me proof of these claims they make? or dont bother.

Trace does not promote harrassment thats just the player, same as a gun does not kill, the person pulling the trigger does.

i play on a 46" screen and you could never hit from 3 screens away, was it rage that told you this by any chance?

p.s Funny how most people in the lets ruin archers completely club are wearing staffs/mages . biased much?


I disagree on many points. I know you put effort into archer and you don't want to see it ruined. But I see archers everywhere and most feel like their own class is useless because archers are so overpowered.

I mean, most archers don't fear any class other than other archers simply because they do have great damage, they hit a lot, they are hard to hit and they can hit from range. Shields don't really make a different when you cant hit someone and cant reach someone.

And without trace, harassment would be much harder, trace gives people the ability to harass others. Soma would be a nicer and more interesting place without it imo.

It has always been this way and nothing on this server has changed drastically enough to change this.

I'm not biased, I just always like to play underdog classes. I don't intend on pking or pvping with devils so it makes no difference to me.
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[quote="CIROSE"][quote="VEX"][quote="CIROSE"]It is a bit sad that Soma is Myth of Bows now. Wouldn't it be nice if there was more variety in weapons used? I think remove trace for a start, it ruins many aspects of the game and promotes grieffing and harrasment. Then the next quick option is to lower dmg on all bows to make up for the range. People wont like this, because they're bow users, but have the most dex, great damage and range is just ridiculously overpowered. Proof of this is that this is myth of bows.[/quote] Can i just add , regardless that the forum whiners got there way as usual... I dont know about Hsoma but on Dsoma this whole myth of archer lark is a load of nonsense, maybe at early stages there was a lot but now there is no more than any others, and tbh i see more spear/sword about now . And as for lowering bow damage? why do people make these comments having no idea about the game and just using old Esoma as a reference ? Bows already have the lowest dmg , min damage by quite a lot, i can hit from 230-290 that's a big range , other classes of the same lvl have min of like 280-290 "Min" Yer we have the higher dex as we should , we cannot wear a shield which on dsoma makes players very hard to kill as it adds a lot of def and one handed weps being higher damage than bows still. can people show me proof of these claims they make? or dont bother. Trace does not promote harrassment thats just the player, same as a gun does not kill, the person pulling the trigger does. i play on a 46" screen and you could never hit from 3 screens away, was it rage that told you this by any chance? p.s Funny how most people in the lets ruin archers completely club are wearing staffs/mages . biased much?[/quote] I disagree on many points. I know you put effort into archer and you don't want to see it ruined. But I see archers everywhere and most feel like their own class is useless because archers are so overpowered. I mean, most archers don't fear any class other than other archers simply because they do have great damage, they hit a lot, they are hard to hit and they can hit from range. Shields don't really make a different when you cant hit someone and cant reach someone. And without trace, harassment would be much harder, trace gives people the ability to harass others. Soma would be a nicer and more interesting place without it imo. It has always been this way and nothing on this server has changed drastically enough to change this. I'm not biased, I just always like to play underdog classes. I don't intend on pking or pvping with devils so it makes no difference to me. [/quote]
What lvl are you? how do you know what does what dmg?

Like i said i dont speak for Hsoma but on Dsoma archers are in no way overpowered,
Again in the post following this can you include the proof of this please and any other such claims people say.

Archers have the lowest damage as i already said in the previous thread, whatever class you are you have to be stationery to Attack full stop , lets not include feather spam here please as thats an issue with the item , as it can be used by mages too.

Shields make a huge difference when it means you do no damage, yet one handers do more dmg than bows still? "one handers"

i can do what you do ....

Range dont really make a difference when you cant do damage to anyone ,
Strength Gives people the ability to harass
Intelligence gives people the ability to harass
Soma would be better off withought these


Proof please? lets see it in the very next post.
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[quote="VEX"]What lvl are you? how do you know what does what dmg? Like i said i dont speak for Hsoma but on Dsoma archers are in no way overpowered, Again in the post following this can you include the proof of this please and any other such claims people say. Archers have the lowest damage as i already said in the previous thread, whatever class you are you have to be stationery to Attack full stop , lets not include feather spam here please as thats an issue with the item , as it can be used by mages too. Shields make a huge difference when it means you do no damage, yet one handers do more dmg than bows still? "one handers" i can do what you do .... Range dont really make a difference when you cant do damage to anyone , Strength Gives people the ability to harass Intelligence gives people the ability to harass Soma would be better off withought these Proof please? lets see it in the very next post. [/quote]

 

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