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"GREATERIX"As frogs seem to be the main currency for SR's at the moment, unless you're grinding int at prisms/nightmare's there very lacking in supply - particularly for melee with no mob that drops beween Swamp beasts & Palus/Akah.

What is everyone's thoughts on adding to Warmess/Warban, so people doing STR don't have to switch to get frogs.

It's particularly apparent with rare/epic weapons which need a SR after nearly every hunt, without mentioning hero.

Maybe have a NPC that does SR for 100k one every 24 hours.

Or even a crafting skill at cap that restores item to before any BS repairs.

Just spit-balling ideas here ;-P

"S0RCERER"

It would simply mean there'll be too many frogs.

All humans will have to do INT eventually, as such, all humans have equal access to Frogs.
Doing INT early on has no repercussions and as such, if you need frogs, go do some INT.

Adding them to melee monsters as well serves to devalue them, that's all.

"GREATERIX"
Doing INT early ofc has repurcussions - lower health pool to name an obvious one.

They should be equally obtainable for both Melee/Int - especially melee who need more SR's - I doubt a staff will ever require one for example.

could always swap LL from DW's and frogs from Prisms ;-)

"S0RCERER"
HP gains are no longer defined by how much of a stat you gain in any one level, it is determined on the total strength, your current level and what con you have.

As such, mixing levels (INT+STR) will ultimately not have any negative impact on your HP endgame.
Neither will doing lots of INT early on and leaving STR for later.

Again, due to this, it is your choice entirely to do INT for frogs, or do STR for... Whatever you do STR for.

"GREATERIX"

"S0RCERER"
HP gains are no longer defined by how much of a stat you gain in any one level, it is determined on the total strength, your current level and what con you have.

As such, mixing levels (INT+STR) will ultimately not have any negative impact on your HP endgame.
Neither will doing lots of INT early on and leaving STR for later.

end game it wont no, but whilst levelling it will as your HP pool wont grow as quick as focusing on STR - which you can't do efficiently if you can't SR you're best weps.

Again, due to this, it is your choice entirely to do INT for frogs, or do STR for... Whatever you do STR for.

Main reason for STR is for protection from obscene number of dArchers at WotW - Surely you should be all for that, more people that can survive = more people that can turn up.

It doesn't bother me much at all - i'll be grinding prisms for int in the next few days anyway.

But what i'm saying is no-one should be forced to grind another mob for an item being made pretty compulsory by the crafters demanding payment in frogs.

It's also hindering my crafting also - I can't craft the +100 w3's for my int grind without extracting frogs - but I can't extract frogs because I need to trade them for SR's.

the Catch 22's stack up v quickly.

"FUJITORA"
There is actually a post suggesting frogs be removed from NMs, and i fully agree with it:
http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=912&title=Nightmare+drops&Page=1