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JHAELIEN |
"PEBZ""JHAELIEN" Unfortunately that's something that should have been addressed day one of the server, 3+ years in far too many players have benefited from using a healer for it to be disabled now would be pretty unfair to a lot of players who haven't yet had this opportunity.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="PEBZ"][quote="JHAELIEN"]
Majority are just after balance ie if the penalty for pking increases so should the reward or the risk for others. Also healers and pot runners are completely optional. [/quote]
Yeah I know but my whole point is it shouldn't be an option, please understand my point lol[/quote]
Unfortunately that's something that should have been addressed day one of the server, 3+ years in far too many players have benefited from using a healer for it to be disabled now would be pretty unfair to a lot of players who haven't yet had this opportunity. [/quote]
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#76 2017/01/02 15:02:53 |
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ACVX |
wouldnt matter anyway.. multiple pcs/laptops?
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#77 2017/01/02 15:04:16 |
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PEBZ |
"NOTMAT""PEBZ""JHAELIEN" What im saying is, You should have one main character. You should not have other characters in other guilds. Duel clienting is taking the piss, I understand it was allowed at a time there was level 100's capped and a low server pop, people wanted to create the "perfect character" but now the server is picking up, its fucking with the game dynamics. I'm exhausted by keep replying as its ridiculous, I'm typing all this, no ones understanding my points and I don't even currently play the game. What im saying is not hard to understand, so please if im being an idiot, and someones reading this who understands... please explain better.
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[quote="PEBZ"][quote="NOTMAT"][quote="PEBZ"][quote="JHAELIEN"]
Majority are just after balance ie if the penalty for pking increases so should the reward or the risk for others. Also healers and pot runners are completely optional. [/quote]
Yeah I know but my whole point is it shouldn't be an option, please understand my point lol[/quote]
So you should only be able to open one client at a time is what you're saying?[/quote]
What im saying is,
You should have one main character.
You should not have other characters in other guilds.
Duel clienting is taking the piss, I understand it was allowed at a time there was level 100's capped and a low server pop, people wanted to create the "perfect character" but now the server is picking up, its fucking with the game dynamics.
I'm exhausted by keep replying as its ridiculous, I'm typing all this, no ones understanding my points and I don't even currently play the game.
What im saying is not hard to understand, so please if im being an idiot, and someones reading this who understands... please explain better.
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#78 2017/01/02 15:09:55 |
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PEBZ |
"JHAELIEN" How isit unfair!? Thats their / your lots perk for keeping the server alive for 3 years... I'm not benefiting, I don't want to benefit from it... I just want fair game dynamics, soon you'd see an end to alot of the flame wars. Whats unfair is, having new players join the game only to discover that getting to level 100 is no real achievement as you'l have to play for 3 years to get close to being able to compete
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[quote="PEBZ"][quote="JHAELIEN"]
Unfortunately that's something that should have been addressed day one of the server, 3+ years in far too many players have benefited from using a healer for it to be disabled now would be pretty unfair to a lot of players who haven't yet had this opportunity. [/quote]
How isit unfair!? Thats their / your lots perk for keeping the server alive for 3 years... I'm not benefiting, I don't want to benefit from it... I just want fair game dynamics, soon you'd see an end to alot of the flame wars.
Whats unfair is, having new players join the game only to discover that getting to level 100 is no real achievement as you'l have to play for 3 years to get close to being able to compete
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#79 2017/01/02 15:11:58 |
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JHAELIEN |
"PEBZ"What im saying is, I'm struggling to understand how someone having two clients open minding their own business is affecting you. It's a change that's just not needed would also making getting srs, trading between store characters more difficult for no reason at all.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="PEBZ"]What im saying is,
You should have one main character.
You should not have other characters in other guilds.
Duel clienting is taking the piss, I understand it was allowed at a time there was level 100's capped and a low server pop, people wanted to create the "perfect character" but now the server is picking up, its fucking with the game dynamics.[/quote]
I'm struggling to understand how someone having two clients open minding their own business is affecting you. It's a change that's just not needed would also making getting srs, trading between store characters more difficult for no reason at all.[/quote]
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#80 2017/01/02 15:13:01 |
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PEBZ |
"JHAELIEN""PEBZ"What im saying is, Its affecting EVERYONE.
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[quote="PEBZ"][quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="PEBZ"]What im saying is,
You should have one main character.
You should not have other characters in other guilds.
Duel clienting is taking the piss, I understand it was allowed at a time there was level 100's capped and a low server pop, people wanted to create the "perfect character" but now the server is picking up, its fucking with the game dynamics.[/quote]
I'm struggling to understand how someone having two clients open minding their own business is affecting you. [/quote]
Its affecting EVERYONE. [/quote]
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#81 2017/01/02 15:14:43 |
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JHAELIEN |
Mate you still have not stated how lol. I'd like to know and please give examples.
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#82 2017/01/02 15:15:41 |
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PEBZ |
It goes without say, honestly draw your own conclusions and use empathy... but ill try and explain anyway^^
You have two clients open "minding your own business", but your own business isn't your own business in a game where people compete against each other. If you was minding your own business, you wouldn't be involved in GVW / WOTW / PK etc. For example, its like playing a game of poker, everyone on the table starts off at £100, but you start off at 2-3 maybe even £400... not only that you can interlink your cards and take 2-3-4 turns at a time ontop of that.
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[quote="PEBZ"]It goes without say, honestly draw your own conclusions and use empathy... but ill try and explain anyway^^
You have two clients open "minding your own business", but your own business isn't your own business in a game where people compete against each other. If you was minding your own business, you wouldn't be involved in GVW / WOTW / PK etc.
For example, its like playing a game of poker, everyone on the table starts off at £100, but you start off at 2-3 maybe even £400... not only that you can interlink your cards and take 2-3-4 turns at a time ontop of that.[/quote]
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#83 2017/01/02 15:18:22 |
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JHAELIEN |
"PEBZ"It goes without say, honestly draw your own conclusions and use empathy... but ill try and explain anyway^^ That literally makes not shred of sense, people use their own high level characters to tank for their lower ones and friends. They also have every right to attend whatever they want gvw/ss/wotw or pk. You've still yet to give a valid example of how it's affecting everyone like you claim it is. It's now shaping up like you're slightly salty people can do this and you maybe can't? So you want it stopped. I don't want a poker example I want an in game example.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="PEBZ"]It goes without say, honestly draw your own conclusions and use empathy... but ill try and explain anyway^^
You have two clients open, "minding your own business" but your own business isn't your own business in a game where people compete against each other. If you was minding your own business, you wouldn't be involved in GVW / WOTW / PK etc.[/quote]
That literally makes not shred of sense, people use their own high level characters to tank for their lower ones and friends. They also have every right to attend whatever they want gvw/ss/wotw or pk. You've still yet to give a valid example of how it's affecting everyone like you claim it is.
It's now shaping up like you're slightly salty people can do this and you maybe can't? So you want it stopped. I don't want a poker example I want an in game example. [/quote]
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#84 2017/01/02 15:23:03 |
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ACVX |
if opening 2 x clients on 1 pc was stopped.. ppl would use a 2nd pc.. cant stop ppl playing 2 characters at a time
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#85 2017/01/02 15:23:11 |
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PEBZ |
Right, You peeps are banding together and not even trying to understand, your just defying what im saying to suit your common interest of "dominating" the server. Im done, I hope ISylver or anyone else without bias will read this thread.
And at the very least understand what im saying so it hasnt been a total waste of time. Thanks for err, the conversion atleast.^^
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[quote="PEBZ"]Right, You peeps are banding together and not even trying to understand, your just defying what im saying to suit your common interest of "dominating" the server. Im done, I hope ISylver or anyone else without bias will read this thread.
And at the very least understand what im saying so it hasnt been a total waste of time.
Thanks for err, the conversion atleast.^^[/quote]
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#86 2017/01/02 15:25:41 |
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JHAELIEN |
"PEBZ"Right, You peeps are banding together and not even trying to understand, your just defying what im saying to suit your common interest of "dominating" the server. Im done, I hope ISylver or anyone else without bias will read this thread. I'm actually trying to understand here and asking for in game examples of how dual clients have affected everyone and the server dynamics like you have said but you've yet to provide any examples or perhaps it's because you can't? I don't know.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="PEBZ"]Right, You peeps are banding together and not even trying to understand, your just defying what im saying to suit your common interest of "dominating" the server. Im done, I hope ISylver or anyone else without bias will read this thread.
And at the very least understand what im saying so it hasnt been a total waste of time.
Thanks for err, the conversion atleast.^^[/quote]
I'm actually trying to understand here and asking for in game examples of how dual clients have affected everyone and the server dynamics like you have said but you've yet to provide any examples or perhaps it's because you can't? I don't know. [/quote]
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#87 2017/01/02 15:29:29 |
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Your absolutely not trying to understand though that's the thing thing. lol
So does this mean you at least understand what I said about having multiple characters in game (sometimes in multiple other guilds) is affecting the games dynamics? Yano what, maybe its not that big a deal, maybe im wrong or not even making sense (always a possibility) i'll just play another game and you can carry on as you were playing this game. There, done.
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[quote="PEBZ"]Your absolutely not trying to understand though that's the thing thing. lol
So does this mean you at least understand what I said about having multiple characters in game (sometimes in multiple other guilds) is affecting the games dynamics?
Yano what, maybe its not that big a deal, maybe im wrong or not even making sense (always a possibility) i'll just play another game and you can carry on as you were playing this game.
There, done.[/quote]
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#88 2017/01/02 15:32:42 |
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"PEBZ"Your absolutely not trying to understand though that's the thing thing. lol People have put other characters in other guilds I won't deny that because it happens, but as a sole reason the benefits outweigh that reason. People use other characters for srs, access to store/upgrade characters, tanking for their own lower level character and friends. Not enough reason to remove it.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="PEBZ"]Your absolutely not trying to understand though that's the thing thing. lol
So does this mean you at least understand what I said about having multiple characters in game (sometimes in multiple other guilds) is affecting the games dynamics?[/quote]
People have put other characters in other guilds I won't deny that because it happens, but as a sole reason the benefits outweigh that reason. People use other characters for srs, access to store/upgrade characters, tanking for their own lower level character and friends. Not enough reason to remove it. [/quote]
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#89 2017/01/02 15:37:48 |
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"ISYLVER"Are you claiming I'm biased? Not a road you want to go down - trust me. You constantly make threats of banning people who attempt to speak the truth/their mind on these forums/in-game(Often constructively) and you make threats like this, every, single, time to try and hush up people and their opinions. That is whats going to happen when you are a egotistical maniac who can't stand criticism in the slightest. You make personal insults at other players constantly, yet when anything is ever mentioned in a derogatory term towards yourself or the server; instant permanent ban for you and any character you've logged in under. Finito and yourself have done a solid job of bringing this game back, nobody will deny that. The PK'ers aren't the worst. Not the bug abusers. Not the botters. Not any of this. The worst part of this server is you and only you. You've driven away dozens of players because of the way you behave and treat people. You've made 3/4 of the biggest (Number of people wise) quit through your actions and your actions alone. You may pay the money for this server but the members of the community have always said, make a target bar and we will contribute. There's some things that havn't changed since the start of this server "This is my server and if you don't like it, i'll shut it down for good". Which has been said and implied multiple times. Get off your high horse and listen to the people who are actually playing your game without getting more defensive than Ronda Rousey in her latest UFC beating. PS. One of the Soma players was in your local area, believe it or not a lot of us actually live in/around your area. Stop saying people are following you around, it's making you look desperate. Nobody wants to follow you around.
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[quote="DENZEL"][quote="ISYLVER"]Are you claiming I'm biased? Not a road you want to go down - trust me.
No, I'm acknowledging the fact that with quicker moral gains and holy waters pking does not have the effect it had on esoma.
There's a bullying mentality prevalent within this server which needs to stop. Play the game,get along because as soon as I see any of this "leave the guild or I'll Pk you off the server" or anything similar there will be bans.
I do not spend my own time and cash on this server for it to be negatively effected by ego. It's a game, pking is part of it yes. However, we have acknowledged a need state that needs to be worked on. [/quote]
You constantly make threats of banning people who attempt to speak the truth/their mind on these forums/in-game(Often constructively) and you make threats like this, every, single, time to try and hush up people and their opinions. That is whats going to happen when you are a egotistical maniac who can't stand criticism in the slightest. You make personal insults at other players constantly, yet when anything is ever mentioned in a derogatory term towards yourself or the server; instant permanent ban for you and any character you've logged in under.
Finito and yourself have done a solid job of bringing this game back, nobody will deny that. The PK'ers aren't the worst. Not the bug abusers. Not the botters. Not any of this. The worst part of this server is [b]you[/b] and only [b]you[/b]. You've driven away dozens of players because of the way you behave and treat people. You've made 3/4 of the biggest (Number of people wise) quit through your actions and your actions alone.
You may pay the money for this server but the members of the community have always said, make a target bar and we will contribute. There's some things that havn't changed since the start of this server "This is my server and if you don't like it, i'll shut it down for good". Which has been said and implied multiple times. Get off your high horse and listen to the people who are actually playing your game without getting more defensive than Ronda Rousey in her latest UFC beating.
PS. One of the Soma players was in your local area, believe it or not a lot of us actually live in/around your area. Stop saying people are following you around, it's making you look desperate. Nobody wants to follow you around.
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