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I'm not sure the positives of winning GVW (trace) outweighs the negatives (Becoming weaker for 2 Wars a week) at the moment from what I see.

On Dsoma people would probably be happy if all upgraded armour/weps were null and void at GVW but then that removes another portion of what people have earned (stats being he first...).

It's difficult and both worlds need different solutions.


In all honesty in the 100 levels I played I never attended GV much, Dsoma was dead in the water for a lot of it and that's the issue - if a system is in place that equates for low numbers or low levels and then every capped guy comes out the closet.

What Coven does isn't new or game breaking - done it for years and funnily enough got quite good at it.

The % should be capped, consecutive wins could be capped.

For me whether it's dedication or obsession I'm amazed they keep it and want to - that's real determination but the worry is if you push that dedication too far, it caves and Coven never show up again - how many wars twice a week before no one attends? 3 weeks? 2?

You could do other fun things with GVW like reward person with most kills, warrior of the war (man of the match), rookie of he week etc - possible with Wotw as well.

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[quote="THEHOOD"]I'm not sure the positives of winning GVW (trace) outweighs the negatives (Becoming weaker for 2 Wars a week) at the moment from what I see. On Dsoma people would probably be happy if all upgraded armour/weps were null and void at GVW but then that removes another portion of what people have earned (stats being he first...). It's difficult and both worlds need different solutions. In all honesty in the 100 levels I played I never attended GV much, Dsoma was dead in the water for a lot of it and that's the issue - if a system is in place that equates for low numbers or low levels and then every capped guy comes out the closet. What Coven does isn't new or game breaking - done it for years and funnily enough got quite good at it. The % should be capped, consecutive wins could be capped. For me whether it's dedication or obsession I'm amazed they keep it and want to - that's real determination but the worry is if you push that dedication too far, it caves and Coven never show up again - how many wars twice a week before no one attends? 3 weeks? 2? You could do other fun things with GVW like reward person with most kills, warrior of the war (man of the match), rookie of he week etc - possible with Wotw as well. [/quote]
Tbh I haven't really had chance to get on much but even at +5 everything that can't compensate for losing 120ish defence from %loss, Gene should easily drop to a couple of well timed 5th swords or whatever
If he had 450 ish defense before +pd he now has 330 ish? Capped chars often have 500+ attack
Is there maybe a way of boosting stats of lower levels? Eh level 70 get 25% increase 80 15% etc?
Would still mean they worth less than properly capped players but also leaves capped chars on full % for when other capped chars come out of the woodwork to take advantage
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[quote="DEIMOS"]Tbh I haven't really had chance to get on much but even at +5 everything that can't compensate for losing 120ish defence from %loss, Gene should easily drop to a couple of well timed 5th swords or whatever If he had 450 ish defense before +pd he now has 330 ish? Capped chars often have 500+ attack Is there maybe a way of boosting stats of lower levels? Eh level 70 get 25% increase 80 15% etc? Would still mean they worth less than properly capped players but also leaves capped chars on full % for when other capped chars come out of the woodwork to take advantage[/quote]
Looking at the feedback and the recent GVW's I'd say the percentage (or something with similar effect) is neccessary.

Of course it does need tinkering but we'll also need to review the situation after more GVW's have passed.

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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]Looking at the feedback and the recent GVW's I'd say the percentage (or something with similar effect) is neccessary. Of course it does need tinkering but we'll also need to review the situation after more GVW's have passed. [/quote]
"PATHOLOGIST"

"SLAYER"The 'excuse' if you want to call it that is that you have the numbers and diversity along with some pretty unique armor that given current conditions is hard/imposible to replicate, else knowone would be able to do what you do.


It's easier than it's ever been to get gear matching Gene's what are you talking about?


It's no where near as easy as during the event where you acquired most of your RDTs

It will eventually happen though i'm sure and then you will find a different issue with things :)
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"] [quote="SLAYER"]The 'excuse' if you want to call it that is that you have the numbers and diversity along with some pretty unique armor that given current conditions is hard/imposible to replicate, else knowone would be able to do what you do.[/quote] It's easier than it's ever been to get gear matching Gene's what are you talking about?[/quote] It's no where near as easy as during the event where you acquired most of your RDTs It will eventually happen though i'm sure and then you will find a different issue with things :)[/quote]
In fairness to our lord Coven if talking about event abused gear looked no further than KNOWONE =)
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[quote="SATURDAY"]In fairness to our lord Coven if talking about event abused gear looked no further than KNOWONE =)[/quote]
"SATURDAY"In fairness to our lord Coven if talking about event abused gear looked no further than KNOWONE =)


Trust me knowone has none of the gear from that event....
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="SATURDAY"]In fairness to our lord Coven if talking about event abused gear looked no further than KNOWONE =)[/quote] Trust me knowone has none of the gear from that event....[/quote]
Well I don't trust you cause I know exactly what KNOWONE has and where Billy and Ally got it from. All the botted stuff from the Easter event - all of NEOXIAN hard work on powpowpow, alucard etc gone but not forgotten.
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[quote="SATURDAY"]Well I don't trust you cause I know exactly what KNOWONE has and where Billy and Ally got it from. All the botted stuff from the Easter event - all of NEOXIAN hard work on powpowpow, alucard etc gone but not forgotten.[/quote]
I had a apple for breakfast today was slightly to crunchy for 6am but like gv i got on with it stop ya bitching yall PS it was a granny smith incase any 1 was wondering
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[quote="COBRA_KAI"]I had a apple for breakfast today was slightly to crunchy for 6am but like gv i got on with it stop ya bitching yall PS it was a granny smith incase any 1 was wondering [/quote]
"COBRA_KAI"I had a apple for breakfast today was slightly to crunchy for 6am but like gv i got on with it stop ya bitching yall PS it was a granny smith incase any 1 was wondering


you didn't even go to last GVW so how does that one work :p
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="COBRA_KAI"]I had a apple for breakfast today was slightly to crunchy for 6am but like gv i got on with it stop ya bitching yall PS it was a granny smith incase any 1 was wondering [/quote] you didn't even go to last GVW so how does that one work :p[/quote]
"GHOSTLORD"Looking at the feedback and the recent GVW's I'd say the percentage (or something with similar effect) is neccessary.

Of course it does need tinkering but we'll also need to review the situation after more GVW's have passed.



Have it reset back to 100% upon first loss.

This isn't Hsoma where there is one guild outnumbering everyone else.
This isn't Hsoma where all of the competing level 100's don't play.

Still see no reason for there to even be a bloody % system on Dsoma, there's no reason (using current active players) that Deimos or Knowone can't tank the stone just as well as any of us in Coven.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]Looking at the feedback and the recent GVW's I'd say the percentage (or something with similar effect) is neccessary. Of course it does need tinkering but we'll also need to review the situation after more GVW's have passed. [/quote] Have it reset back to 100% upon first loss. This isn't Hsoma where there is one guild outnumbering everyone else. This isn't Hsoma where all of the competing level 100's don't play. Still see no reason for there to even be a bloody % system on Dsoma, there's no reason (using current active players) that Deimos or Knowone can't tank the stone just as well as any of us in Coven.[/quote]
"S0RCERER"
"GHOSTLORD"Looking at the feedback and the recent GVW's I'd say the percentage (or something with similar effect) is neccessary.

Of course it does need tinkering but we'll also need to review the situation after more GVW's have passed.



Have it reset back to 100% upon first loss.

This isn't Hsoma where there is one guild outnumbering everyone else.
This isn't Hsoma where all of the competing level 100's don't play.

Still see no reason for there to even be a bloody % system on Dsoma, there's no reason (using current active players) that Deimos or Knowone can't tank the stone just as well as any of us in Coven.


I resent this I tanked the stone for a good 2 - 3 min's as well as jara. We even used the peace mode tactic!

Us knuxers are hard too lol

I honestly think a once a week war with none of this % loss would be better on dsoma. It gives people a chance to organise and get everyone online ect. This once every 3 days is a bit pointless for us I think. By all means give us some other event. Id prefer the chance to grind a bit in between wars and have chance to get the troop rallied than once every 3 days. I also think the % thing needs taking away or changed. Once the guild has lost the village the % should be reset back to 100. This winning guild has to have a successful defence before the % resets makes no sense. What if it keeps switching hands between vatI and DL for the next 6 months coven stuck on 70%.

I don't always agree with covens views but I honestly don't think the current system is fair on them at all
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[quote="STRIKE"][quote="S0RCERER"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]Looking at the feedback and the recent GVW's I'd say the percentage (or something with similar effect) is neccessary. Of course it does need tinkering but we'll also need to review the situation after more GVW's have passed. [/quote] Have it reset back to 100% upon first loss. This isn't Hsoma where there is one guild outnumbering everyone else. This isn't Hsoma where all of the competing level 100's don't play. Still see no reason for there to even be a bloody % system on Dsoma, there's no reason (using current active players) that Deimos or Knowone can't tank the stone just as well as any of us in Coven.[/quote] I resent this I tanked the stone for a good 2 - 3 min's as well as jara. We even used the peace mode tactic! Us knuxers are hard too lol I honestly think a once a week war with none of this % loss would be better on dsoma. It gives people a chance to organise and get everyone online ect. This once every 3 days is a bit pointless for us I think. By all means give us some other event. Id prefer the chance to grind a bit in between wars and have chance to get the troop rallied than once every 3 days. I also think the % thing needs taking away or changed. Once the guild has lost the village the % should be reset back to 100. This winning guild has to have a successful defence before the % resets makes no sense. What if it keeps switching hands between vatI and DL for the next 6 months coven stuck on 70%. I don't always agree with covens views but I honestly don't think the current system is fair on them at all[/quote]
finito has already changed it to increase on any guild win.
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[quote="ARROW"]finito has already changed it to increase on any guild win.[/quote]
"ARROW"finito has already changed it to increase on any guild win.


I'm aware, 5% per loss - but is this immediately upon first defense or 2nd defense?

That's beside the point though, the % system isn't needed for Dsoma.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="ARROW"]finito has already changed it to increase on any guild win.[/quote] I'm aware, 5% per loss - but is this immediately upon first defense or 2nd defense? That's beside the point though, the % system isn't needed for Dsoma.[/quote]
Thanks for the faith s0rc ;D if only I could get on to attend more, I lose track of when the wars are on now lol
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[quote="DEIMOS"]Thanks for the faith s0rc ;D if only I could get on to attend more, I lose track of when the wars are on now lol[/quote]
DEIMOS
Thanks for the faith s0rc ;D if only I could get on to attend more, I lose track of when the wars are on now lol

No being funny pal but lookin at your death ratio and seeing you in action couple times don't think you'd make much difference
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[quote="SATURDAY"][quote=DEIMOS] Thanks for the faith s0rc ;D if only I could get on to attend more, I lose track of when the wars are on now lol[/quote] No being funny pal but lookin at your death ratio and seeing you in action couple times don't think you'd make much difference [/quote]

 

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