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[quote="ERDEKA"]Morelikely is question to gms. We devils heard that patch is comming, but when, etc? Im already at level whe n punching for archer is a muss, or ill lose str, so what to do? any good ideas/answers? Thanks.[/quote]

[quote="STRIKE"]You can punch now and dramatically slow your lvling for a really minor gain. Or level fast normally and make use of extra stat points when patch drops. Punching is redundant at this point[/quote]

[quote="ASDADASD"][quote="STRIKE"] Punching is redundant at this point[/quote] This. The GMs have seen the upcoming patch as the 'only' solution, making us confident that it's only the matter of time that the patch will be out. It`d be best for you to work towards the patch rather than wasting hours on punching. [/quote]

[quote="MANTICORE"]i dont get it has been stated before punching was always optional for every1 never a must. lets say u cap before patch (which u wont) do you really believe landing at 150int at 100 will change dramaticaly the dmg u will get from humans and bosses at dsoma? the answer is not really. Punching at lvl80s its a complete waste of time cause the difference not that big the big jump is at 90s which is the point that ur % gain gets reduced by alot. Punched Archer 210-215str post patch ends up 210str 197-199dex post patch ends up 210dex 150-160int post patch ends up user preference Non Punched Archer 200-205str post patch ends up 210str 200dex post patch ends up 210dex 100-120int post patch ends up user preference In the end it doesnt really matter how u lvled ur character the real build is your char with the items u made for him. Thats my 2 cents.[/quote]

[quote="DEIMOS"]Just level as fast as poss(generally wbm to cap for archers) will stand you better when patch comes in and they're pretty good before anyway, thehood did ok for himself and he didn't punch[/quote]

[quote="_JR_"]You get the best gains from punching just before wbm str slows. Also what manticore says is true.. but if you throw 210 points in str expect to have 30 points in anotger stat The points isylv posted are just caps in each class. Not what you will have at level 100 but more like level 110ish[/quote]

[quote="MITCHY"]At what str would you punch as an archer to get max gains if the patch doesn't come in? Also any update from the gms? Not pushing but a little update would be appreciated.[/quote]

[quote="DEIMOS"]Almost definitely the 95str slow? Then I don't know ;p [/quote]

[quote="LOTSO"]To maximise Str you should start punching when you can cap Dex with punching. But a waste of time imo Just concentrate on getting as many levels in as possible [/quote]

[quote="DONKA"]it could be waste for 15-20 str = full set +4/5 str (100-200 rdts) so quite alot, looting 200 rdts is less then doing 500h punch lol[/quote]

[quote="MANTICORE"][quote="MITCHY"]At what str would you punch as an archer to get max gains if the patch doesn't come in? Also any update from the gms? Not pushing but a little update would be appreciated.[/quote] u either start at 85lvl or 90 the big difference on gains are at 90s[/quote]

[quote="_JR_"]From punching the best gains are before 154.9str and 174.9str (on wbm) for example.. i landed on 154.4str 95.4int,, punched that level and ended up on .. 160.1str 101.1int (5.7str 5.7int) Next level i punched.. 160.1str 101.1 int and landed on .. 165.3str 106.2int ( 5.2str gain... 5.1 int gain) cba writing any more.. but gains always drop by around 0.5 per slow.. then slowly creeped back up then dropped again once 175 str then slowly back up untill cap.. (% takes over as on 1.0x gains)[/quote]

[quote="DONKA"][quote="_JR_"]From punching the best gains are before 154.9str and 174.9str (on wbm) for example.. i landed on 154.4str 95.4int,, punched that level and ended up on .. 160.1str 101.1int (5.7str 5.7int) Next level i punched.. 160.1str 101.1 int and landed on .. 165.3str 106.2int ( 5.2str gain... 5.1 int gain) cba writing any more.. but gains always drop by around 0.5 per slow.. then slowly creeped back up then dropped again once 175 str then slowly back up untill cap.. (% takes over as on 1.0x gains)[/quote] Evil, personally you think worth to punch?[/quote]

[quote="_JR_"]being honest... no wbm have no int attack.. it makes no difference against devil mages hardly any difference to wotw (still get 3 hit off high int chars) and biggest reason IF the new stat system works.. and comes into play... all your hard work is instantly deleted... But .. if your after abit for int armour/ boss's... just punch 1 level just before 155str,, you will probly get about 14/15 int[/quote]

[quote="MITCHY"]Thanks for the info matey :)[/quote]