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I tested dex on the test server. And for me with 136 str I get it at 4.6%
I also tested dex on a 171 str char, and it was 4.6 dex
Now with that being said. The 171 str char could possibly get another 29-30 dex from bowing. Because by the look of the change log it's not a mob slow. But just a str slow. So dex shouldn't be affected ( like hitting the 95 str slow but not the dex)
Now If I were to do the best lvling for this char. I'd lvl bow till 151 str and possibly get about 15 dex. That would bring me to a decent amount. But my problem is this;
Example A:
130 str 140dex does dex till 151 (1.0) possibly 7 or so lvls maybe 8
Then axes till 171 str as it will be 0.8 and 0.5 rates leaving that char with 0% so will be about 171str and 160dex
Example B:
171 str 125 dex does dex from 100-110, previously stated that it would take 10 bow lvls ( I think) from 171-200
As it's 1.0 on the new mob, and only str slows and not dex, this person would get 29 str and give or take 30 or more dex
So will cap on about 200str and 155+ dex
The example A has gone from a 15dex advantage to a possibly 5 dex advantage because it's penalised to go axe or get worse mob rates.
Again. It's not fully tested.
This is a forum for discussion.
This was a discussion and I'd like people to give their thoughts.
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[quote="HAWKMOON"]I tested dex on the test server. And for me with 136 str I get it at 4.6% I also tested dex on a 171 str char, and it was 4.6 dex Now with that being said. The 171 str char could possibly get another 29-30 dex from bowing. Because by the look of the change log it's not a mob slow. But just a str slow. So dex shouldn't be affected ( like hitting the 95 str slow but not the dex) Now If I were to do the best lvling for this char. I'd lvl bow till 151 str and possibly get about 15 dex. That would bring me to a decent amount. But my problem is this; Example A: 130 str 140dex does dex till 151 (1.0) possibly 7 or so lvls maybe 8 Then axes till 171 str as it will be 0.8 and 0.5 rates leaving that char with 0% so will be about 171str and 160dex Example B: 171 str 125 dex does dex from 100-110, previously stated that it would take 10 bow lvls ( I think) from 171-200 As it's 1.0 on the new mob, and only str slows and not dex, this person would get 29 str and give or take 30 or more dex So will cap on about 200str and 155+ dex The example A has gone from a 15dex advantage to a possibly 5 dex advantage because it's penalised to go axe or get worse mob rates. Again. It's not fully tested. This is a forum for discussion. This was a discussion and I'd like people to give their thoughts. [/quote]
Its the only way of doing it without penalising the other characters further. You are being forced to do axe from 151 - 171 but the other chars with 171 str have already done it so you aren't being penalised any more than them.
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[quote="HADOU"]Its the only way of doing it without penalising the other characters further. You are being forced to do axe from 151 - 171 but the other chars with 171 str have already done it so you aren't being penalised any more than them.[/quote]
"HADOU"Its the only way of doing it without penalising the other characters further. You are being forced to do axe from 151 - 171 but the other chars with 171 str have already done it so you aren't being penalised any more than them.


the difference is they stopped dex because they wanted str, I'm stopping dex because I can't continue
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[quote="HAWKMOON"][quote="HADOU"]Its the only way of doing it without penalising the other characters further. You are being forced to do axe from 151 - 171 but the other chars with 171 str have already done it so you aren't being penalised any more than them.[/quote] the difference is they stopped dex because they wanted str, I'm stopping dex because I can't continue[/quote]
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"HADOU"Its the only way of doing it without penalising the other characters further. You are being forced to do axe from 151 - 171 but the other chars with 171 str have already done it so you aren't being penalised any more than them.


the difference is they stopped dex because they wanted str, I'm stopping dex because I can't continue


Can't or won't? What exactly is it that's stopping you from doing BLG with bow?
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="HAWKMOON"][quote="HADOU"]Its the only way of doing it without penalising the other characters further. You are being forced to do axe from 151 - 171 but the other chars with 171 str have already done it so you aren't being penalised any more than them.[/quote] the difference is they stopped dex because they wanted str, I'm stopping dex because I can't continue[/quote] Can't or won't? What exactly is it that's stopping you from doing BLG with bow?[/quote]
At 151 it's 0.8 stats. As far as I'm aware. The new mobs are set 1.0
Meaning I'm at a disadvantage
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[quote="HAWKMOON"]At 151 it's 0.8 stats. As far as I'm aware. The new mobs are set 1.0 Meaning I'm at a disadvantage [/quote]
it was 0.8 and 0.5 for them aswell, so you are not disadvantaged, you can do bow at the lower rate it just doesn't make sense to. your lucky you have the choice.
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[quote="HADOU"]it was 0.8 and 0.5 for them aswell, so you are not disadvantaged, you can do bow at the lower rate it just doesn't make sense to. your lucky you have the choice.[/quote]
Exactly prepatch if the user did dex at 151 str they'd still have the 0.8 ratio.

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[quote="ISYLVER"]Exactly prepatch if the user did dex at 151 str they'd still have the 0.8 ratio. [/quote]
"HAWKMOON"At 151 it's 0.8 stats. As far as I'm aware. The new mobs are set 1.0
Meaning I'm at a disadvantage


New mobs use same rate as would of got at BLG. So it will still be 0.8 on new mobs and even 0.5 when you get closer to the BLG cap.
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[quote="FINITO"][quote="HAWKMOON"]At 151 it's 0.8 stats. As far as I'm aware. The new mobs are set 1.0 Meaning I'm at a disadvantage [/quote] New mobs use same rate as would of got at BLG. So it will still be 0.8 on new mobs and even 0.5 when you get closer to the BLG cap.[/quote]
No I mean from 171-200. Hence my first post I understand that % but it's just what I've worked out I suppose the test server will have all the answers
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[quote="HAWKMOON"]No I mean from 171-200. Hence my first post I understand that % but it's just what I've worked out I suppose the test server will have all the answers[/quote]
"HAWKMOON"No I mean from 171-200. Hence my first post I understand that % but it's just what I've worked out I suppose the test server will have all the answers


It will be 1x then because there isn't anything for 171-200 on live server.
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[quote="FINITO"][quote="HAWKMOON"]No I mean from 171-200. Hence my first post I understand that % but it's just what I've worked out I suppose the test server will have all the answers[/quote] It will be 1x then because there isn't anything for 171-200 on live server.[/quote]
Can this please be looked into, cant bring myself to go train as my future as a dex char is uncertain and has ruined my build plan :'(
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[quote="LISA_ARLENE"]Can this please be looked into, cant bring myself to go train as my future as a dex char is uncertain and has ruined my build plan :'([/quote]
I think we need to look again at this again. Its not right that chars with 171 str benefit this much.
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[quote="TABORLIN"]I think we need to look again at this again. Its not right that chars with 171 str benefit this much.[/quote]
Not sure you understand but thanks for posting on your archers.

It merely gives anyone training from 151-171 str the same rates as anyone pre patch.

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[quote="ISYLVER"]Not sure you understand but thanks for posting on your archers. It merely gives anyone training from 151-171 str the same rates as anyone pre patch. [/quote]
"ISYLVER"Not sure you understand but thanks for posting on your archers.

It merely gives anyone training from 151-171 str the same rates as anyone pre patch.



Which is how it should be. I think the issue is the gains at 171 go up again. If these are lowered the problem could be solved?
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[quote="TABORLIN"][quote="ISYLVER"]Not sure you understand but thanks for posting on your archers. It merely gives anyone training from 151-171 str the same rates as anyone pre patch. [/quote] Which is how it should be. I think the issue is the gains at 171 go up again. If these are lowered the problem could be solved?[/quote]
"LISA_ARLENE"Can this please be looked into, cant bring myself to go train as my future as a dex char is uncertain and has ruined my build plan :'(


doesn't affect anyone negatively, it effects everyone equally
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[quote="HADOU"][quote="LISA_ARLENE"]Can this please be looked into, cant bring myself to go train as my future as a dex char is uncertain and has ruined my build plan :'([/quote] doesn't affect anyone negatively, it effects everyone equally[/quote]

 

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