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Can we please change these bosses asap to a random spawn point on the map at time 8? Same people just camping the spawns and logging in at time 7 every 4hours. Before people get there, they are dead.
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[quote="HURRICANE"]Can we please change these bosses asap to a random spawn point on the map at time 8? Same people just camping the spawns and logging in at time 7 every 4hours. Before people get there, they are dead.[/quote]
"HURRICANE"Can we please change these bosses asap to a random spawn point on the map at time 8? Same people just camping the spawns and logging in at time 7 every 4hours. Before people get there, they are dead.


Go before t8 ?

Dont understand the issue

Its same with devil raro, if your not there before it spawns it dies to fast, but it spawns at same time to be there before it spawns
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="HURRICANE"]Can we please change these bosses asap to a random spawn point on the map at time 8? Same people just camping the spawns and logging in at time 7 every 4hours. Before people get there, they are dead.[/quote] Go before t8 ? Dont understand the issue Its same with devil raro, if your not there before it spawns it dies to fast, but it spawns at same time to be there before it spawns[/quote]
And what about the low levels? People that are camped there are lvl100s with +7 weps and to end gear; how are leve 50s gonna compete? Atleast making the spawn point anywhere they can't camp and would have to trace or look for the mob. This would stop level 100s camping low end bosses. What don't you understand?
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[quote="HURRICANE"]And what about the low levels? People that are camped there are lvl100s with +7 weps and to end gear; how are leve 50s gonna compete? Atleast making the spawn point anywhere they can't camp and would have to trace or look for the mob. This would stop level 100s camping low end bosses. What don't you understand?[/quote]
"HURRICANE"And what about the low levels? People that are camped there are lvl100s with +7 weps and to end gear; how are leve 50s gonna compete? Atleast making the spawn point anywhere they can't camp and would have to trace or look for the mob. This would stop level 100s camping low end bosses. What don't you understand?


making them random spawn is going to stop lvl 100 attending ?
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="HURRICANE"]And what about the low levels? People that are camped there are lvl100s with +7 weps and to end gear; how are leve 50s gonna compete? Atleast making the spawn point anywhere they can't camp and would have to trace or look for the mob. This would stop level 100s camping low end bosses. What don't you understand?[/quote] making them random spawn is going to stop lvl 100 attending ?[/quote]
Stop level 100s camping. For example, vip_qg constantly getting Darien queen kill as his char is always logged there. Looking at the feed, same people are getting the same kills on th same mob. Make them spawn anywhere and they can't camp can they
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[quote="HURRICANE"]Stop level 100s camping. For example, vip_qg constantly getting Darien queen kill as his char is always logged there. Looking at the feed, same people are getting the same kills on th same mob. Make them spawn anywhere and they can't camp can they[/quote]
When time 8 bosses were introduced I raised exactly this issue.

I got sat on hard - fair enough, the game is not a democracy.

Some mobs (like Raro) do have a random spawn point but you are right that the same people camp them (I am now one of them).

They still will camp them (and trace) if they spawn elsewhere.

Better to just remove the fixed timer - that totally stops camping.

However, I accepted all the counter-arguments and just "got on with it".

The decision is with the GMs, not with "us".

Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]When time 8 bosses were introduced I raised exactly this issue. I got sat on hard - fair enough, the game is not a democracy. Some mobs (like Raro) do have a random spawn point but you are right that the same people camp them (I am now one of them). They still will camp them (and trace) if they spawn elsewhere. Better to just remove the fixed timer - that totally stops camping. However, I accepted all the counter-arguments and just "got on with it". The decision is with the GMs, not with "us". Jac[/quote]
Everyone knows spawn time go sit there 5minutes before?
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[quote="BALLER"]Everyone knows spawn time go sit there 5minutes before? [/quote]
little easier with darian u could bid a little time away, wasting a little dura on cyc shanis ~ tried to compete with vip in the end but mean while my wait i got this
Hero Ring[Epic] Hero Ring
Weight : 4
Durability : 1240

Attack + 3
so altho got nothing from darian i did cyc.
Im rarely on for a boss spawn but if i am i get there a little early because of the camping. ~ not hard ~
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[quote="THE_D0N"]little easier with darian u could bid a little time away, wasting a little dura on cyc shanis ~ tried to compete with vip in the end but mean while my wait i got this [item post=110254 index=0] so altho got nothing from darian i did cyc. Im rarely on for a boss spawn but if i am i get there a little early because of the camping. ~ not hard ~ [/quote]
I run myself to bosses or trace guild members who are nearby for t8 bosses. No different to you doing this. I see plenty of lower level chars at elder gazer which leaves plenty of room for the lower levels not camped there to get the kill.
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[quote="MITCHY"]I run myself to bosses or trace guild members who are nearby for t8 bosses. No different to you doing this. I see plenty of lower level chars at elder gazer which leaves plenty of room for the lower levels not camped there to get the kill.[/quote]
I agree with Jac and Hurricane, that these players have an unfair advantage, as they have a high level character with a lot better gear and they will just use another character until time 8 quickly hop on and kill it.

Yes you can wait there or get there earlier and have a chance of killing it, but surely someone with a speed A Bow will be more likely to get the drop than someone with a Speed D bow (Also taking much longer to kill therefore more users come along and the less chance you have of getting the last hit)

Perhaps we can get it so certain bosses? I.E the lower ones can't be attacked by extremely high levels?

It just makes people like me, a lower level with rubbish gear more difficult to get good items.

It's difficult to balance it out imo.
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[quote="DEAMOND"]I agree with Jac and Hurricane, that these players have an unfair advantage, as they have a high level character with a lot better gear and they will just use another character until time 8 quickly hop on and kill it. Yes you can wait there or get there earlier and have a chance of killing it, but surely someone with a speed A Bow will be more likely to get the drop than someone with a Speed D bow (Also taking much longer to kill therefore more users come along and the less chance you have of getting the last hit) Perhaps we can get it so certain bosses? I.E the lower ones can't be attacked by extremely high levels? It just makes people like me, a lower level with rubbish gear more difficult to get good items. It's difficult to balance it out imo. [/quote]
DEAMONDI agree with Jac and Hurricane, that these players have an unfair advantage, as they have a high level character with a lot better gear and they will just use another character until time 8 quickly hop on and kill it.

Yes you can wait there or get there earlier and have a chance of killing it, but surely someone with a speed A Bow will be more likely to get the drop than someone with a Speed D bow (Also taking much longer to kill therefore more users come along and the less chance you have of getting the last hit)

Perhaps we can get it so certain bosses? I.E the lower ones can't be attacked by extremely high levels?

It just makes people like me, a lower level with rubbish gear more difficult to get good items.

It's difficult to balance it out imo.



Could make it so for first hour mob has spawned, only low levels can attack it, if the mob is left for longer than an hour, it goes free for all

Any good?
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[quote="BRADC"][quote=DEAMOND]I agree with Jac and Hurricane, that these players have an unfair advantage, as they have a high level character with a lot better gear and they will just use another character until time 8 quickly hop on and kill it. Yes you can wait there or get there earlier and have a chance of killing it, but surely someone with a speed A Bow will be more likely to get the drop than someone with a Speed D bow (Also taking much longer to kill therefore more users come along and the less chance you have of getting the last hit) Perhaps we can get it so certain bosses? I.E the lower ones can't be attacked by extremely high levels? It just makes people like me, a lower level with rubbish gear more difficult to get good items. It's difficult to balance it out imo.[/quote] Could make it so for first hour mob has spawned, only low levels can attack it, if the mob is left for longer than an hour, it goes free for all Any good?[/quote]
It is very hard to find equilibrium.

I spent an age levelling because, as a lower level, when I got to a boss, I didn't have the ability to kill it (well get the last hit in).

I had to wait until I was level 100 before I could compete and even now ...

1) I have to be on-line at the time
2) It has to be a mob I have a chance of killing (I am STR, not INT)
3) I still have to compete

As much as I agree that lower levels should have more chance, none of the capped players (me now included) had that chance and even now, we are still competing.

Perhaps make the drops less worth while to higher level players and more worth while to lower level players (not sure that is now possible though)

Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]It is very hard to find equilibrium. I spent an age levelling because, as a lower level, when I got to a boss, I didn't have the ability to kill it (well get the last hit in). I had to wait until I was level 100 before I could compete and even now ... 1) I have to be on-line at the time 2) It has to be a mob I have a chance of killing (I am STR, not INT) 3) I still have to compete As much as I agree that lower levels should have more chance, none of the capped players (me now included) had that chance and even now, we are still competing. Perhaps make the drops less worth while to higher level players and more worth while to lower level players (not sure that is now possible though) Jac[/quote]
If it's a random spawn.. bow users will trace and kill them... while everyone who doesn't have a bow runs around aimlessly!

Keep them where they are! If you want to be there, go earlier. Its not as if you don't know exactly where and when the boss will spawn, lol?

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[quote="ISELIX"]If it's a random spawn.. bow users will trace and kill them... while everyone who doesn't have a bow runs around aimlessly! Keep them where they are! If you want to be there, go earlier. Its not as if you don't know exactly where and when the boss will spawn, lol? [/quote]

 

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