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MR_PERFECT |
I understand top weapons not supposed to be easy to obtain but at the moment I think there is around 20 ingame? Counting non-tagged one's.
People don't sell these, they sit in warehouses.. At the moment they are too rare and top levelers are leveling with non-tagged top weapons like pike/snakebite/blue wave or hardened etc. Catching the pamoth is notoriously difficult and top weapons shouldn't be limited to the one boss. I also understand events come and go but its hard to get last hit too.. Thoughts?
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[quote="MR_PERFECT"]I understand top weapons not supposed to be easy to obtain but at the moment I think there is around 20 ingame? Counting non-tagged one's.
People don't sell these, they sit in warehouses.. At the moment they are too rare and top levelers are leveling with non-tagged top weapons like pike/snakebite/blue wave or hardened etc.
Catching the pamoth is notoriously difficult and top weapons shouldn't be limited to the one boss. I also understand events come and go but its hard to get last hit too..
Thoughts?[/quote]
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#1 2014/01/20 10:10:32 |
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DMGTEST |
"MR_PERFECT"I understand top weapons not supposed to be easy to obtain but at the moment I think there is around 20 ingame? Counting non-tagged one's. You want the best, compete for it.
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[quote="DMGTEST"][quote="MR_PERFECT"]I understand top weapons not supposed to be easy to obtain but at the moment I think there is around 20 ingame? Counting non-tagged one's.
People don't sell these, they sit in warehouses.. At the moment they are too rare and top levelers are leveling with non-tagged top weapons like pike/snakebite/blue wave or hardened etc.
Catching the pamoth is notoriously difficult and top weapons shouldn't be limited to the one boss. I also understand events come and go but its hard to get last hit too..
Thoughts?[/quote]
You want the best, compete for it.[/quote]
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#2 2014/01/20 10:18:04 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
This is a long lasting server and arguably the fact there are around 20 is probably a bit too much?
Servers not been up 6 months yet. |
#3 2014/01/20 10:22:00 |
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GANDALF |
Ive had
5 gtr 3 bwa 2 hh 1 sb 2 pike 1 stinger Nothing above rare tag but still plenty of end game weps for this stage of server /gandalf |
#4 2014/01/20 11:38:56 |
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GHOSTLORD |
The only increase I could think of asking for is another Pamoth on conti.
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#5 2014/01/20 12:05:00 |
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YUFFIE |
"GHOSTLORD"The only increase I could think of asking for is another Pamoth on conti. Would also give an extra incentive for people to turn upto wow every week even if they dont need LB/Draz |
#6 2014/01/20 12:25:56 |
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S0RCERER |
I can't understand why materials don't drop from Conti monsters like gems (dia, ruby etc)
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#7 2014/01/20 12:29:51 |
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PLUM |
A few extra Pamoth in an event now and again is more than enough to supplement the server with these final weapons. My only issue with boss spawns is that they're affected by server restarts and sometimes you will not see one for over a week.
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#8 2014/01/20 13:22:13 |
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REHLINA |
add to conti
pamoth(hsoma) King Kobold (both) Blood Akah (both) Grath the Werewolf (both) Androctonus Australis (both) Also could you potentaly add them all to TYT/Pandi with no spawn so there ready for EVENTS |
#9 2014/01/20 13:25:45 |
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BLACKHAT |
Don'#t fall into the trap of thinking that everyone should be entitled to the best weap they can equip.
Adding layers of super rare weapons gives the game a lot more interest and when you see someone with one it really is like "Wow!". As long as these weapons cannot be monopolized by a group of and there is opportunity for most then I think this rarity of top end weapons sounds great.
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[quote="BLACKHAT"]Don'#t fall into the trap of thinking that everyone should be entitled to the best weap they can equip.
Adding layers of super rare weapons gives the game a lot more interest and when you see someone with one it really is like "Wow!".
As long as these weapons cannot be monopolized by a group of and there is opportunity for most then I think this rarity of top end weapons sounds great. [/quote]
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#10 2014/01/20 13:53:41 |
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FUJITORA |
Probably killed pamoth 4/5 times myself and had 1 epic pike, 1 rare HH and the rest is all trash.
Should be noted that epics are better and most rare lbs weapons are on par with hardened pamoth weapons, so you require a rare tag from a pamoth wep for it to be worthwhile anyway. Problem lies in actually finding the boss with a 4 day + respawn and numerous reboots and the amount of people looking for it, i would probably say 90% of the server hasnt even seen a pamoth outside of an event where it has been GM spawned. Not everybody is similar to / as lucky gandalf to get last hits at events, i would be willing to bet if you asked the majority of people around his level (More outside EQ), they would almost all say, "i dont even have a single pamoth weapon" They are slightly too rare for my liking, but if its supposed to be that way then so be it, but i just thought id explain it, because what gandalf posted makes it seem much easier to obtain than they actually are.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]Probably killed pamoth 4/5 times myself and had 1 epic pike, 1 rare HH and the rest is all trash.
Should be noted that epics are better and most rare lbs weapons are on par with hardened pamoth weapons, so you require a rare tag from a pamoth wep for it to be worthwhile anyway.
Problem lies in actually finding the boss with a 4 day + respawn and numerous reboots and the amount of people looking for it, i would probably say 90% of the server hasnt even seen a pamoth outside of an event where it has been GM spawned.
Not everybody is similar to / as lucky gandalf to get last hits at events, i would be willing to bet if you asked the majority of people around his level (More outside EQ), they would almost all say, "i dont even have a single pamoth weapon"
They are slightly too rare for my liking, but if its supposed to be that way then so be it, but i just thought id explain it, because what gandalf posted makes it seem much easier to obtain than they actually are.[/quote]
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#11 2014/01/20 13:56:19 |
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My concern about the pamoth weapons is that the majority of what are in game are owned by the mages of hsoma, as their MA is far greater than the majority of bosses MD , where as Melee chars are doing very little damage to these bosses therefore having a very slim chance of getting the last hit to obtain a weapon of their tier
I don't understand why these bosses have so much defensive dex and str yet so little MD, basically leaves you no option but to use magic against them, Most of the player feed regarding killing bosses are from mages As gandalf has shared his loot gains it only makes sense that for a chance to get these weapons you would need a lot of int to do reasonable damage for a higher killing blow chance
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[quote="TOLIC"]My concern about the pamoth weapons is that the majority of what are in game are owned by the mages of hsoma, as their MA is far greater than the majority of bosses MD , where as Melee chars are doing very little damage to these bosses therefore having a very slim chance of getting the last hit to obtain a weapon of their tier
I don't understand why these bosses have so much defensive dex and str yet so little MD, basically leaves you no option but to use magic against them,
Most of the player feed regarding killing bosses are from mages
As gandalf has shared his loot gains it only makes sense that for a chance to get these weapons you would need a lot of int to do reasonable damage for a higher killing blow chance[/quote]
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#12 2014/01/20 14:11:34 |
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MR_PERFECT |
Both good posts.
"FUJITORA"Probably killed pamoth 4/5 times myself and had 1 epic pike, 1 rare HH and the rest is all trash. "TOLIC"My concern about the pamoth weapons is that the majority of what are in game are owned by the mages of hsoma, as their MA is far greater than the majority of bosses MD , where as Melee chars are doing very little damage to these bosses therefore having a very slim chance of getting the last hit to obtain a weapon of their tier
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[quote="MR_PERFECT"]Both good posts.
[quote="FUJITORA"]Probably killed pamoth 4/5 times myself and had 1 epic pike, 1 rare HH and the rest is all trash.
Should be noted that epics are better and most rare lbs weapons are on par with hardened pamoth weapons, so you require a rare tag from a pamoth wep for it to be worthwhile anyway.
Problem lies in actually finding the boss with a 4 day + respawn and numerous reboots and the amount of people looking for it, i would probably say 90% of the server hasnt even seen a pamoth outside of an event where it has been GM spawned.
Not everybody is similar to / as lucky gandalf to get last hits at events, i would be willing to bet if you asked the majority of people around his level (More outside EQ), they would almost all say, "i dont even have a single pamoth weapon"
They are slightly too rare for my liking, but if its supposed to be that way then so be it, but i just thought id explain it, because what gandalf posted makes it seem much easier to obtain than they actually are.[/quote]
[quote="TOLIC"]My concern about the pamoth weapons is that the majority of what are in game are owned by the mages of hsoma, as their MA is far greater than the majority of bosses MD , where as Melee chars are doing very little damage to these bosses therefore having a very slim chance of getting the last hit to obtain a weapon of their tier
I don't understand why these bosses have so much defensive dex and str yet so little MD, basically leaves you no option but to use magic against them,
Most of the player feed regarding killing bosses are from mages
As gandalf has shared his loot gains it only makes sense that for a chance to get these weapons you would need a lot of int to do reasonable damage for a higher killing blow chance[/quote]
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#13 2014/01/20 14:23:19 |
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ORANGE |
Don't forget Gandalf has been playing since the start and as his old guild 'Dynamic' had a lot of members back then, we could take Pamoth pretty early on. Also back then it seemed only No_mercy were contesting the boss. I bet most of his Pamoth loot was from that period.
This is just one of the perks we got for playing from launch. I think the boss is fine, I've had nothing more than a Rare from him so far and I've killed him a fair few times, which is good imo - I don't expect the best items to be showing up before anyone's even hit cap. Tolic is right tbh, out of all the bosses in game i believe only 1 of them it's best to use melee.
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[quote="ORANGE"]Don't forget Gandalf has been playing since the start and as his old guild 'Dynamic' had a lot of members back then, we could take Pamoth pretty early on. Also back then it seemed only No_mercy were contesting the boss. I bet most of his Pamoth loot was from that period.
This is just one of the perks we got for playing from launch.
I think the boss is fine, I've had nothing more than a Rare from him so far and I've killed him a fair few times, which is good imo - I don't expect the best items to be showing up before anyone's even hit cap.
Tolic is right tbh, out of all the bosses in game i believe only 1 of them it's best to use melee. [/quote]
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#14 2014/01/20 14:41:45 |
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GILGAMESH |
I don't mind them being rare; but when you factor in that you need to upgrade their speeds for them to be superior to the LB weapon you will likely have. It makes it slightly ridiculous
Unless of course you go axe (like everyone else on the server). and then you never need to risk upgrading that one Pamoth weapon you managed to get your hands on I really think a conti Pamoth or something similar (which would make high levels care about winning war) would kill two birds with one stone.
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[quote="GILGAMESH"]I don't mind them being rare; but when you factor in that you need to upgrade their speeds for them to be superior to the LB weapon you will likely have. It makes it slightly ridiculous
Unless of course you go axe (like everyone else on the server). and then you never need to risk upgrading that one Pamoth weapon you managed to get your hands on
I really think a conti Pamoth or something similar (which would make high levels care about winning war) would kill two birds with one stone.[/quote]
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#15 2014/01/20 14:43:17 |
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