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PLUM |
5th knuckle aura in its current state provides no extra power and the only increase upon 3rd is the possibility to hit an extra 3 mobs. I cannot see many situations where a knuckler would actually benefit from having 5th aura over 3rd. If you are levelling, you'll ideally want to be at horde shanis or blg. So to make use of 5th aura you either have to go to a much weaker mob that has a really nice spawn, or volunteer up all your dura and hp to get the chance of 3 more hits. I feel this aura needs to have something else to it, like increased power. Also bare in mind that this aura has zero use in pvp.
I would like to know everyone else's thoughts on this.
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[quote="PLUM"]5th knuckle aura in its current state provides no extra power and the only increase upon 3rd is the possibility to hit an extra 3 mobs. I cannot see many situations where a knuckler would actually benefit from having 5th aura over 3rd. If you are levelling, you'll ideally want to be at horde shanis or blg. So to make use of 5th aura you either have to go to a much weaker mob that has a really nice spawn, or volunteer up all your dura and hp to get the chance of 3 more hits. I feel this aura needs to have something else to it, like increased power. Also bare in mind that this aura has zero use in pvp.
I would like to know everyone else's thoughts on this.[/quote]
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#1 2014/01/25 15:38:06 |
DMGTEST |
Didn't they change to to add 10dmg?
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#2 2014/01/25 15:47:08 |
PLUM |
It adds no extra damage, just tested again with a t knuckle.
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#3 2014/01/25 15:59:31 |
GILGAMESH |
join the club of uselessl 5ths, no idea why you got it :p
Knuckle 5ths alwas been extremely underwhelming; more of a visual thing than of any practical use. In the old days at least, when you could 100% eva mobs, it was pretty nice at shanis/blg. |
#4 2014/01/25 16:54:19 |
TOLIC |
5th axe and sword are the only ones worth getting imo
maybe spear/knux/bow 5th could be changed to be more beneficial pve/pvp wise |
#5 2014/01/25 16:59:27 |
S0RCERER |
I assumed knuck 5th added 10dmg to each hit.
Guess not. |
#6 2014/01/25 17:00:47 |
NEOXIAN |
I'd rather have knuckle 5th than spear 5th...
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#7 2014/01/25 18:54:41 |
S0RCERER |
"NEOXIAN"I'd rather have knuckle 5th than spear 5th... Can't see why. Spear 5th is a heal, knuck 5th is exactly the same as 3rd unless you're completely surrounded. |
#8 2014/01/25 18:59:32 |
PLUM |
Making all the hits definite or doing 8 hits regardless of how many monsters are around. Other suggestions for improvements.
I agree that 5th spear could do with a damage increase if I am right in thinking that all it does is a 125% hp from a standard damage hit. Bow is a different matter due to it already being mad for both pvp and pve. Knuckle is an underused class and most have already left to become axebowmen. ='[
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[quote="PLUM"]Making all the hits definite or doing 8 hits regardless of how many monsters are around. Other suggestions for improvements.
I agree that 5th spear could do with a damage increase if I am right in thinking that all it does is a 125% hp from a standard damage hit.
Bow is a different matter due to it already being mad for both pvp and pve.
Knuckle is an underused class and most have already left to become axebowmen. ='[[/quote]
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#9 2014/01/25 19:06:56 |
THRANDUIL |
because of the way knux works fast hits steady damage would be nice if 5th knux was a improved 1st knux aura that adds more damage instead of attacks
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#10 2014/01/25 20:38:05 |
JARAGOONDOO |
I agree that 5th Knuckle needs a buff. I may bother working towards it if it was.
The situation is even worse on DSoma since WBM have 2 range meaning it's not possible to get surrounded (not like you'd want to!). |
#11 2014/01/25 21:15:21 |
_SEPHIROTH_ |
Give it an aura to permanently increase it's damage to almost rival axe damage.
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#12 2014/01/25 21:38:27 |
L1NK |
"_SEPHIROTH_"Give it an aura to permanently increase it's damage to almost rival axe damage. +1 |
#13 2014/01/26 00:09:58 |
RESPAWNZ |
You knew exactly what you were getting when you bought it, its laughable that you can learn the aura and then suggest for a complete remake of it (Not plum but the other two suggesting it). Might as well learn 5th bow and then ask it for to be changed to give 10% accuracy or something.
Every wep has its positive and negative, 5th knuk being not so good is one of the downsides to knuk. Knuk level fastest at almost all levels, excluding when axes who get to 4th Gives better dex per real life time than bow Actually has ~3.5k+ dura on rare saw/rap knuks compared to 2k dura bows, making them useable for leveling. Has a 10% dodge, which is better than bow Not to mention HH has extremely high DPS with only 750 recoil compared to 800 of other knuks. Even with 4th axe, a rare BWA are around 32-56 and rare HHs around 40- 44 with ~720/730ish recoil which is almost A+ compared to axes B spd with aura activated. HH will still slice through mobs as fast as axe if not faster. All points are in reference to human soma , i dont really know about devil soma. Although i do agree that it could use a slight power boost, or making it 100% hit rate on all targets around the player maybe, but completely changing it should not happen.
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[quote="RESPAWNZ"]You knew exactly what you were getting when you bought it, its laughable that you can learn the aura and then suggest for a complete remake of it (Not plum but the other two suggesting it). Might as well learn 5th bow and then ask it for to be changed to give 10% accuracy or something.
Every wep has its positive and negative, 5th knuk being not so good is one of the downsides to knuk.
Knuk level fastest at almost all levels, excluding when axes who get to 4th
Gives better dex per real life time than bow
Actually has ~3.5k+ dura on rare saw/rap knuks compared to 2k dura bows, making them useable for leveling.
Has a 10% dodge, which is better than bow
Not to mention HH has extremely high DPS with only 750 recoil compared to 800 of other knuks.
Even with 4th axe, a rare BWA are around 32-56 and rare HHs around 40- 44 with ~720/730ish recoil which is almost A+ compared to axes B spd with aura activated. HH will still slice through mobs as fast as axe if not faster.
All points are in reference to human soma , i dont really know about devil soma.
Although i do agree that it could use a slight power boost, or making it 100% hit rate on all targets around the player maybe, but completely changing it should not happen.[/quote]
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#14 2014/01/26 00:55:46 |
UPGRADE |
knux has allready had 2nd/4th made decent, dont see any problem with 5th every class has its bad auras its just the way it is,
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#15 2014/01/26 14:21:34 |
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