the net DAMAGE on 2 mobs is 460. the net return in hp is 800 yes. the chances of sword hitting 3 targets at wotw and gvw is just as likely if not more likely than getting spear 2nd off to hit 2 people, as it cant be used diagonally and it's buggy and the person has to be directly infront of the other person. I think this is more than fair compared to sword 5th. as like you say its still nearly 150 less net hp effect.

sword 5th does more damage to mobs just like my proprosed 5th would do more to mobs, and at the same ratio, so they have exponentially more damage to mobs as wbm don't stand in line with each other, ever! but they stand side by side for 5th all the time.

even if it was 110% damage and 50% heal I would be happy, just something!

knucks wont ever pot at wbm once their dex and wis is high enough with dodge up
archer wont ever pot at wbm once their dex and wis is high enough with dodge up
axer will still pot at the sacrifice of a+ levelling speed or with PD up be mostly unpotting as well.
swordies are a bit behind in pve but that's the sacrifice of being the masters of pvp with 5th.



I fully support 5th knuckle being dodge and 3rd combined with 100% hit chance.

5TH AURAS SHOULD BE AWESOME!
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]the net DAMAGE on 2 mobs is 460. the net return in hp is 800 yes. the chances of sword hitting 3 targets at wotw and gvw is just as likely if not more likely than getting spear 2nd off to hit 2 people, as it cant be used diagonally and it's buggy and the person has to be directly infront of the other person. I think this is more than fair compared to sword 5th. as like you say its still nearly 150 less net hp effect. sword 5th does more damage to mobs just like my proprosed 5th would do more to mobs, and at the same ratio, so they have exponentially more damage to mobs as wbm don't stand in line with each other, ever! but they stand side by side for 5th all the time. even if it was 110% damage and 50% heal I would be happy, just something! knucks wont ever pot at wbm once their dex and wis is high enough with dodge up archer wont ever pot at wbm once their dex and wis is high enough with dodge up axer will still pot at the sacrifice of a+ levelling speed or with PD up be mostly unpotting as well. swordies are a bit behind in pve but that's the sacrifice of being the masters of pvp with 5th. I fully support 5th knuckle being dodge and 3rd combined with 100% hit chance. 5TH AURAS SHOULD BE AWESOME![/quote]