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The Myth of Soma Podcast - Episode 3

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"MUFFIN"It's a game with pvp with pvp going on......sounds ok to me


To be fair to Vk thats how the game should be and vice versa. I would prefer to play the game as intended like esoma.

I do my fair share of trash talking and have no problem being a target. We didnt have these issuea on Esoma as it policed itself. Players showed respect or faced the consequences.

On here they run there mouth ingame or make ememies then moan to Gms
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[quote="OCD"][quote="MUFFIN"]It's a game with pvp with pvp going on......sounds ok to me [/quote] To be fair to Vk thats how the game should be and vice versa. I would prefer to play the game as intended like esoma. I do my fair share of trash talking and have no problem being a target. We didnt have these issuea on Esoma as it policed itself. Players showed respect or faced the consequences. On here they run there mouth ingame or make ememies then moan to Gms[/quote]
"FUTURE"Not that i want this to turn into a mud slinging contest as i genuinely think some good ideas have came from this but i dont recall such emphasis being placed on a free to level area before you started another char and got to experience first hand something you had previously contributed to on your "main char" . Now the shoe is on the other foot suddenly its a huge issue.

Personally id like to see Matty unbanned.


Some fair points but I think we need to just focus on fixing it.

Being non biased I dont think anyone should be banned from any guild including Matty. Its a tiny user count game. Peoples pk can be removed or there chat turned off suspensions seem extreme to deal with anti social behaviour. Perma bans should only be used imho for things of a serious nature like duping or bug abuse.
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[quote="OCD"][quote="FUTURE"]Not that i want this to turn into a mud slinging contest as i genuinely think some good ideas have came from this but i dont recall such emphasis being placed on a free to level area before you started another char and got to experience first hand something you had previously contributed to on your "main char" . Now the shoe is on the other foot suddenly its a huge issue. Personally id like to see Matty unbanned. [/quote] Some fair points but I think we need to just focus on fixing it. Being non biased I dont think anyone should be banned from any guild including Matty. Its a tiny user count game. Peoples pk can be removed or there chat turned off suspensions seem extreme to deal with anti social behaviour. Perma bans should only be used imho for things of a serious nature like duping or bug abuse.[/quote]
"OCD"
"MUFFIN"It's a game with pvp with pvp going on......sounds ok to me


To be fair to Vk thats how the game should be and vice versa. I would prefer to play the game as intended like esoma.

I do my fair share of trash talking and have no problem being a target. We didnt have these issuea on Esoma as it policed itself. Players showed respect or faced the consequences.

On here they run there mouth ingame or make ememies then moan to Gms



This is because its the easiest path.

Previously you had to level up more or make friends or run away and level somewhere else. Or even as far to make a new char and hide your identity if you where hated so much.

Not here

The easiest/painless path to solving your problems is to complain to a gm. Perm bans should be so rare for real reasons game breaking reasons like duping/modded clients etc having ppl banned should be a last and a hard to come to option not a first on the list. if the usercount at absolute peak is around 250 ppl having 10% of the playerbase banned is a serious problem and works against longevity.
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[quote="FUTURE"][quote="OCD"][quote="MUFFIN"]It's a game with pvp with pvp going on......sounds ok to me [/quote] To be fair to Vk thats how the game should be and vice versa. I would prefer to play the game as intended like esoma. I do my fair share of trash talking and have no problem being a target. We didnt have these issuea on Esoma as it policed itself. Players showed respect or faced the consequences. On here they run there mouth ingame or make ememies then moan to Gms[/quote] This is because its the easiest path. Previously you had to level up more or make friends or run away and level somewhere else. Or even as far to make a new char and hide your identity if you where hated so much. Not here The easiest/painless path to solving your problems is to complain to a gm. Perm bans should be so rare for real reasons game breaking reasons like duping/modded clients etc having ppl banned should be a last and a hard to come to option not a first on the list. if the usercount at absolute peak is around 250 ppl having 10% of the playerbase banned is a serious problem and works against longevity. [/quote]
"FUTURE"

Personally id like to see Matty unbanned.



Aye no bother, will we have a new section on forums for rent a pilot and somabay powered by PayPal as well?
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[quote="TYPHIN"][quote="FUTURE"] Personally id like to see Matty unbanned. [/quote] Aye no bother, will we have a new section on forums for rent a pilot and somabay powered by PayPal as well? [/quote]
Soma is a time based game not exactly a skill based game some ppl can play a lot some ppl cant i dont think buying items is game breaking makes his char stronger but not like using a dupe or an exploit.

Think if they where going to ban everyone thats bought items the list would be a lot longer than just Matty.

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[quote="FUTURE"]Soma is a time based game not exactly a skill based game some ppl can play a lot some ppl cant i dont think buying items is game breaking makes his char stronger but not like using a dupe or an exploit. Think if they where going to ban everyone thats bought items the list would be a lot longer than just Matty. [/quote]
Don’t forget, hurricane was banned too :(
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[quote="LEONARDO"]Don’t forget, hurricane was banned too :([/quote]
I like OCD's approach never have i ever seen other games ban people for pking or being a rascal following someone around, let it police itself the people who "quit" (which is hardly anyone because most just take a week break when they say they're quitting because of pk) should just stop expecting gm's and the community to come to their aid by banning the Pker afterall it's a role playing game... I can't kill people in real life... I can't harass people in real life... Here i can do anything i want because i'm going to role play a jack the ripper mofo (Not literally i don't care for pvp much, just giving an example).
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[quote="TRILL"]I like OCD's approach never have i ever seen other games ban people for pking or being a rascal following someone around, let it police itself the people who "quit" (which is hardly anyone because most just take a week break when they say they're quitting because of pk) should just stop expecting gm's and the community to come to their aid by banning the Pker afterall it's a role playing game... I can't kill people in real life... I can't harass people in real life... Here i can do anything i want because i'm going to role play a jack the ripper mofo (Not literally i don't care for pvp much, just giving an example).[/quote]
How about if you feel like your getting harassed from spawn to spawn you just pm there guild leader/co leaders and we'll tell our members to stop, surely we can come to some agreement? Even if you're leaders/co' are offline, maybe we can use the new discord to sort petty shit out like this, easy to use the discord app on your phone and message a leader on there, then the leader can use whatsapp/guild web chat to tell the member.

It's not just one guild doing it, both sides spawn camp etc. Get the message across to our/your members to not chase from spawn to spawn on the same player then we don't need to waste Gms development time with petty pk politics / pk free maps( pilot heaven -.- ) Rather development time be used for new item content/New dungeon raids/A hoarde map where you get swarmed by mobs/bosses once a week - every player can enter for a fee of say 100k.


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[quote="DEATHNOTE"]How about if you feel like your getting harassed from spawn to spawn you just pm there guild leader/co leaders and we'll tell our members to stop, surely we can come to some agreement? Even if you're leaders/co' are offline, maybe we can use the new discord to sort petty shit out like this, easy to use the discord app on your phone and message a leader on there, then the leader can use whatsapp/guild web chat to tell the member. It's not just one guild doing it, both sides spawn camp etc. Get the message across to our/your members to not chase from spawn to spawn on the same player then we don't need to waste Gms development time with petty pk politics / pk free maps( pilot heaven -.- ) Rather development time be used for new item content/New dungeon raids/A hoarde map where you get swarmed by mobs/bosses once a week - every player can enter for a fee of say 100k. [/quote]
Why not make it so a player can only be pkd up to a max of 5x per soma day.. For big pks wars, make an exception to this in a ''warzone'' in a certain area around the gv..So if ppl wana go for a scrap go there.
I like the idea of ditching the kd 's on the players armoury screen... We all spent many hours levellin our guys up, and we feel some kind of bitterness/sadness/upsetness.....or some emotions like that if we get killed... Getting rid of that removes that display of our ''weakness'' to other players checking us out. Would aslo encourage a few more to get stuck in..win or lose.. So many ppl..to varying degrees really dont like gettin their ass kicked. It is after all a game .. a bit more chilled attitude to dying or indeed killing... might make things a little more fun

Also means... if u kill a player 5x and he then cant be pk'd ..doesnt stop him from attacking you! Would make ppl think a bit more about going round willy nilly hassling someone.
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[quote="ACVX"]Why not make it so a player can only be pkd up to a max of 5x per soma day.. For big pks wars, make an exception to this in a ''warzone'' in a certain area around the gv..So if ppl wana go for a scrap go there. I like the idea of ditching the kd 's on the players armoury screen... We all spent many hours levellin our guys up, and we feel some kind of bitterness/sadness/upsetness.....or some emotions like that if we get killed... Getting rid of that removes that display of our ''weakness'' to other players checking us out. Would aslo encourage a few more to get stuck in..win or lose.. So many ppl..to varying degrees really dont like gettin their ass kicked. It is after all a game .. a bit more chilled attitude to dying or indeed killing... might make things a little more fun Also means... if u kill a player 5x and he then cant be pk'd ..doesnt stop him from attacking you! Would make ppl think a bit more about going round willy nilly hassling someone.[/quote]
Getting put on the feed is the only downfall to dying pretty much unless you dc or w/e i dono how you dropped your top but 9/10 there is no consequence other than bragging rights.

I am the pk death of the week rather than being salty i wanna get kills back on the ppl who pkd me... PPl have far to big egos and cant handle that anything will jeopardise theres. Its a kill on a feed in the grand scheme of life who cares about that or KD. Its fun for it to be there.

Specially now with zombie and proc gear and crazy upgraded attack items it has never been so easy to die in soma. I try and fight or do what i can no matter the odds not because i think i can win 1v 4 or 5 but because its pvp and its supposed to be enjoyable.


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However i do have a kill on icaros in a 4v2 (there favour) while he is typing to me that i do 0 dmg :) which is really the pk of the week ;)

Which is even better considering he isnt lying i legit do hardly any dmg.
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[quote="FUTURE"]Getting put on the feed is the only downfall to dying pretty much unless you dc or w/e i dono how you dropped your top but 9/10 there is no consequence other than bragging rights. I am the pk death of the week rather than being salty i wanna get kills back on the ppl who pkd me... PPl have far to big egos and cant handle that anything will jeopardise theres. Its a kill on a feed in the grand scheme of life who cares about that or KD. Its fun for it to be there. Specially now with zombie and proc gear and crazy upgraded attack items it has never been so easy to die in soma. I try and fight or do what i can no matter the odds not because i think i can win 1v 4 or 5 but because its pvp and its supposed to be enjoyable. *edit* However i do have a kill on icaros in a 4v2 (there favour) while he is typing to me that i do 0 dmg :) which is really the pk of the week ;) Which is even better considering he isnt lying i legit do hardly any dmg. [/quote]
With regards to hunting and leveling I think a bare pot area is a bad idea .
This would only encourage users of pilots and give people with high level characters an advantage leveling a new character. They don't need items .
New players shouldn't be disadvantaged.
With regard to spawns in particular nms another spawn area is not necessary if the spawn rate is adjusted . It appears at present time based and increases in the early evening about 4 .regardless of how many people are hunting. Abias nms is for lower level hunters who can't stand the prohibited dura rape .
Wbm on d soma is similar.
Pking is a big part of the game , if you want to just do pve then staying in pvp guilds should be avoided and if ppl communicate better this can be minimalised
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[quote="RICO"]With regards to hunting and leveling I think a bare pot area is a bad idea . This would only encourage users of pilots and give people with high level characters an advantage leveling a new character. They don't need items . New players shouldn't be disadvantaged. With regard to spawns in particular nms another spawn area is not necessary if the spawn rate is adjusted . It appears at present time based and increases in the early evening about 4 .regardless of how many people are hunting. Abias nms is for lower level hunters who can't stand the prohibited dura rape . Wbm on d soma is similar. Pking is a big part of the game , if you want to just do pve then staying in pvp guilds should be avoided and if ppl communicate better this can be minimalised [/quote]
sorry folks its all pretty talk til someone gets hurt.

its not tht long ago that a helm dropped and there was so much harassment to getting it back.

also there is a difference between

A) someone with power abusing tht power to grief

and

B) someone persistently winding folks up knowing rightly they bring it on themselves

I've fallen under bracket A and never have i ever fallen under bracket B. That to me is the distinction between folks being dicks and playing the game.
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[quote="TYPHIN"]sorry folks its all pretty talk til someone gets hurt. its not tht long ago that a helm dropped and there was so much harassment to getting it back. also there is a difference between A) someone with power abusing tht power to grief and B) someone persistently winding folks up knowing rightly they bring it on themselves I've fallen under bracket A and never have i ever fallen under bracket B. That to me is the distinction between folks being dicks and playing the game.[/quote]
@future .. the feed diappears within a few hours... the kd stays for life
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[quote="ACVX"]@future .. the feed diappears within a few hours... the kd stays for life[/quote]
"DEATHNOTE"How about if you feel like your getting harassed from spawn to spawn you just pm there guild leader/co leaders and we'll tell our members to stop, surely we can come to some agreement? Even if you're leaders/co' are offline, maybe we can use the new discord to sort petty shit out like this, easy to use the discord app on your phone and message a leader on there, then the leader can use whatsapp/guild web chat to tell the member.

It's not just one guild doing it, both sides spawn camp etc. Get the message across to our/your members to not chase from spawn to spawn on the same player then we don't need to waste Gms development time with petty pk politics / pk free maps( pilot heaven -.- ) Rather development time be used for new item content/New dungeon raids/A hoarde map where you get swarmed by mobs/bosses once a week - every player can enter for a fee of say 100k.




+1

Death, I said exactly the same to my a few in my guild. Everyone uses discord/Skype/whatsapp etc. I suggested maybe a small group on there with a couple of people from each big guild to try and police ourselves rather than mithering the gms etc. And to be fair id say most will obide by it. Obvs will get a couple on both sides that wont but thats life. I think this would work. And also that group could even organise things between guilds, like pk fights, maybe joint raiding devs etc. Organise rvr, and even make a plan for WOW.
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[quote="MAVERICK"][quote="DEATHNOTE"]How about if you feel like your getting harassed from spawn to spawn you just pm there guild leader/co leaders and we'll tell our members to stop, surely we can come to some agreement? Even if you're leaders/co' are offline, maybe we can use the new discord to sort petty shit out like this, easy to use the discord app on your phone and message a leader on there, then the leader can use whatsapp/guild web chat to tell the member. It's not just one guild doing it, both sides spawn camp etc. Get the message across to our/your members to not chase from spawn to spawn on the same player then we don't need to waste Gms development time with petty pk politics / pk free maps( pilot heaven -.- ) Rather development time be used for new item content/New dungeon raids/A hoarde map where you get swarmed by mobs/bosses once a week - every player can enter for a fee of say 100k. [/quote] +1 Death, I said exactly the same to my a few in my guild. Everyone uses discord/Skype/whatsapp etc. I suggested maybe a small group on there with a couple of people from each big guild to try and police ourselves rather than mithering the gms etc. And to be fair id say most will obide by it. Obvs will get a couple on both sides that wont but thats life. I think this would work. And also that group could even organise things between guilds, like pk fights, maybe joint raiding devs etc. Organise rvr, and even make a plan for WOW.[/quote]
"MAVERICK"
"DEATHNOTE"How about if you feel like your getting harassed from spawn to spawn you just pm there guild leader/co leaders and we'll tell our members to stop, surely we can come to some agreement? Even if you're leaders/co' are offline, maybe we can use the new discord to sort petty shit out like this, easy to use the discord app on your phone and message a leader on there, then the leader can use whatsapp/guild web chat to tell the member.

It's not just one guild doing it, both sides spawn camp etc. Get the message across to our/your members to not chase from spawn to spawn on the same player then we don't need to waste Gms development time with petty pk politics / pk free maps( pilot heaven -.- ) Rather development time be used for new item content/New dungeon raids/A hoarde map where you get swarmed by mobs/bosses once a week - every player can enter for a fee of say 100k.




+1

Death, I said exactly the same to my a few in my guild. Everyone uses discord/Skype/whatsapp etc. I suggested maybe a small group on there with a couple of people from each big guild to try and police ourselves rather than mithering the gms etc. And to be fair id say most will obide by it. Obvs will get a couple on both sides that wont but thats life. I think this would work. And also that group could even organise things between guilds, like pk fights, maybe joint raiding devs etc. Organise rvr, and even make a plan for WOW.


Good idea in principle but in practice it wont work every guild has a black sheep who gives zero fucks. What if people go into a solo guild they can do as they please but still Allie the main guild?

There has been some cracking solutions. If they were implemented the game would just police its self and people would have a place to hunt in peace albeit a nerfed place.
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[quote="TYRAEL"][quote="MAVERICK"][quote="DEATHNOTE"]How about if you feel like your getting harassed from spawn to spawn you just pm there guild leader/co leaders and we'll tell our members to stop, surely we can come to some agreement? Even if you're leaders/co' are offline, maybe we can use the new discord to sort petty shit out like this, easy to use the discord app on your phone and message a leader on there, then the leader can use whatsapp/guild web chat to tell the member. It's not just one guild doing it, both sides spawn camp etc. Get the message across to our/your members to not chase from spawn to spawn on the same player then we don't need to waste Gms development time with petty pk politics / pk free maps( pilot heaven -.- ) Rather development time be used for new item content/New dungeon raids/A hoarde map where you get swarmed by mobs/bosses once a week - every player can enter for a fee of say 100k. [/quote] +1 Death, I said exactly the same to my a few in my guild. Everyone uses discord/Skype/whatsapp etc. I suggested maybe a small group on there with a couple of people from each big guild to try and police ourselves rather than mithering the gms etc. And to be fair id say most will obide by it. Obvs will get a couple on both sides that wont but thats life. I think this would work. And also that group could even organise things between guilds, like pk fights, maybe joint raiding devs etc. Organise rvr, and even make a plan for WOW.[/quote] Good idea in principle but in practice it wont work every guild has a black sheep who gives zero fucks. What if people go into a solo guild they can do as they please but still Allie the main guild? There has been some cracking solutions. If they were implemented the game would just police its self and people would have a place to hunt in peace albeit a nerfed place.[/quote]

 

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