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The Myth of Soma Podcast - Episode 3

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"FOXTRCK"I think there's two genuine options. The first is that you offer more ability to avoid being pked, or some governance of pking. Something a lot of people have now said

Or, you simply make pking more risky (and maybe up the reward).

That is, pk once, and your grey for an hour AND everyone on that map (or joins that map) receives a compass point of where you are. (like how compass/ 3rd bow works)
pk twice, and your grey status lasts for 8 hours AND everyone on that map (or joins that map) receives a compass point of that pker on the map
pk three times or more and it lasts 24 hours AND everyone on that map (or joins that map) receives a compass

In combination with - a pker has a 30 second log out timer, not 5 seconds
A pker that dies when being grey WILL drop a item from inventory/equipped
A pker that kills a none-grey has a 'ok' chance at getting a death drop. Not a super chance but say 15% chance.

In summary, make pkers, genunine outlaws and become targets themselves, like they are in most other games.


I like this idea, but must make the area around GV and even abias gate a normal pk zone, as this is where the pk wars take place. There still needs to be mass pk wars without to much punishment. This is where pk is fun.
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[quote="SUBXERO"][quote="FOXTRCK"]I think there's two genuine options. The first is that you offer more ability to avoid being pked, or some governance of pking. Something a lot of people have now said Or, you simply make pking more risky (and maybe up the reward). That is, pk once, and your grey for an hour AND everyone on that map (or joins that map) receives a compass point of where you are. (like how compass/ 3rd bow works) pk twice, and your grey status lasts for 8 hours AND everyone on that map (or joins that map) receives a compass point of that pker on the map pk three times or more and it lasts 24 hours AND everyone on that map (or joins that map) receives a compass In combination with - a pker has a 30 second log out timer, not 5 seconds A pker that dies when being grey WILL drop a item from inventory/equipped A pker that kills a none-grey has a 'ok' chance at getting a death drop. Not a super chance but say 15% chance. In summary, make pkers, genunine outlaws and become targets themselves, like they are in most other games.[/quote] I like this idea, but must make the area around GV and even abias gate a normal pk zone, as this is where the pk wars take place. There still needs to be mass pk wars without to much punishment. This is where pk is fun. [/quote]
Just make different maps pvp free on a timer or something - like every 3 hours there is an hour of no pk mode

and ban people who harass ghostlords inbox
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[quote="PIKUTIN"]Just make different maps pvp free on a timer or something - like every 3 hours there is an hour of no pk mode and ban people who harass ghostlords inbox[/quote]
"PIKUTIN"Just make different maps pvp free on a timer or something - like every 3 hours an hour of no pk mode

and ban people who harass ghostlords inbox


This still does not sole the issue,

for example is someone got harassed at both spawns right at the beginning of the 3 hours cool down. What do they do?

The issue is players are not playing because of this. To improve the UC i think this needs to be fixed. From all the ideas the simplest is Hawkmoons idea, a map pve with zero drops. Maybe even make it so you must be pkd first until you can enter.

imo keep open world pvp as it is, dont change the punishment, but give the player an option if he is getting harrsed. I think this would improve the game.

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[quote="SUBXERO"][quote="PIKUTIN"]Just make different maps pvp free on a timer or something - like every 3 hours an hour of no pk mode and ban people who harass ghostlords inbox[/quote] This still does not sole the issue, for example is someone got harassed at both spawns right at the beginning of the 3 hours cool down. What do they do? The issue is players are not playing because of this. To improve the UC i think this needs to be fixed. From all the ideas the simplest is Hawkmoons idea, a map pve with zero drops. Maybe even make it so you must be pkd first until you can enter. imo keep open world pvp as it is, dont change the punishment, but give the player an option if he is getting harrsed. I think this would improve the game. [/quote]
It's on a timer so that another map is pvp free at that time.

hour 1 = VOD no pk mode , Other maps normal
hour 2 = Abias no pk mode, Other maps normal
hour 3 = All maps normal

Then repeat

(This would be OP for all the people frightened of PK so it should then be allowed for people to follow spawn to spawn and all that stuff imo)

Not meaning to be harsh but maybe you should just join mistress? ;D
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[quote="PIKUTIN"]It's on a timer so that another map is pvp free at that time. hour 1 = VOD no pk mode , Other maps normal hour 2 = Abias no pk mode, Other maps normal hour 3 = All maps normal Then repeat (This would be OP for all the people frightened of PK so it should then be allowed for people to follow spawn to spawn and all that stuff imo) Not meaning to be harsh but maybe you should just join mistress? ;D [/quote]
Who has left due to pkin? I havent heard of anyone, sounds like u wanna lvli in peace tho mate jst play the game
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[quote="PURIEL"]Who has left due to pkin? I havent heard of anyone, sounds like u wanna lvli in peace tho mate jst play the game[/quote]
What a load of crap this all is, far too many restrictions on PK already, deal with it you flannel.
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[quote="KAIDONE"]What a load of crap this all is, far too many restrictions on PK already, deal with it you flannel.[/quote]
Restrict pk to 10 levels to make it more fair and be done with it if anything is going to change, get rid of the kda also to help prevent one of the positives of griefing someone.

The talk of pk immunity potions is silly.
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[quote="IBRAA"]Restrict pk to 10 levels to make it more fair and be done with it if anything is going to change, get rid of the kda also to help prevent one of the positives of griefing someone. The talk of pk immunity potions is silly.[/quote]
"SUBXERO"
"GHOSTLORD"To clarfiy some things.

Before iSylver lost a lot of time working on PM's and dealing with harassment etc.

After a while, he gave that responsibility to me. As a result his hands were free to work with Finito on content. He only would have to assist sometimes where needed. This also removed a lot of the motiviational issues that we had seen at the start of the server. :)

I never was a content developer. I've always been a community GM, so this role fits met perfectly. So in short, not a lot of development time is lost currently.

Lately I've been busy though and haven't had a lot of time for games etc. So I've been a bit slow the last few weeks with the PM's. Though I do notice that it is always the same people (not a poke or an issue, just an observation). Before I would do my PM's every day and I would have a bunch of them every day. Though if I only work through them once a week, there wouldn't be an exponential amount of extra pm's. But rather the same people waiting for a reply. So I have dicided to start a new way of working. Rather than working through my PM's every day i'll do them once or twice a week. Though this is just a (forced) trial period.


This still does not solve the issue of giving players an option to hunt and play the game, If you read a pm a week after they have logged off the game due to grief/harassment its no good to anyone.

There needs to be something implemented to the game, so you dont have to deal with this like this, then you can on more important harassment issues like racism, bug abuse, etc.

A lot of players have agreed with something like a pve map or similar implemented , players from DL, VK and neutral guilds so its not just 1 person saying this.


I agree, it doesn't solve / change anything. It's just the current state of affairs and my plan moving forward.



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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="SUBXERO"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]To clarfiy some things. Before iSylver lost a lot of time working on PM's and dealing with harassment etc. After a while, he gave that responsibility to me. As a result his hands were free to work with Finito on content. He only would have to assist sometimes where needed. This also removed a lot of the motiviational issues that we had seen at the start of the server. :) I never was a content developer. I've always been a community GM, so this role fits met perfectly. So in short, not a lot of development time is lost currently. Lately I've been busy though and haven't had a lot of time for games etc. So I've been a bit slow the last few weeks with the PM's. Though I do notice that it is always the same people (not a poke or an issue, just an observation). Before I would do my PM's every day and I would have a bunch of them every day. Though if I only work through them once a week, there wouldn't be an exponential amount of extra pm's. But rather the same people waiting for a reply. So I have dicided to start a new way of working. Rather than working through my PM's every day i'll do them once or twice a week. Though this is just a (forced) trial period.[/quote] This still does not solve the issue of giving players an option to hunt and play the game, If you read a pm a week after they have logged off the game due to grief/harassment its no good to anyone. There needs to be something implemented to the game, so you dont have to deal with this like this, then you can on more important harassment issues like racism, bug abuse, etc. A lot of players have agreed with something like a pve map or similar implemented , players from DL, VK and neutral guilds so its not just 1 person saying this. [/quote] I agree, it doesn't solve / change anything. It's just the current state of affairs and my plan moving forward. [/quote]
"KAIDONE"What a load of crap this all is, far too many restrictions on PK already, deal with it you flannel.


Some sense being spoken
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[quote="MUFFIN"][quote="KAIDONE"]What a load of crap this all is, far too many restrictions on PK already, deal with it you flannel.[/quote] Some sense being spoken [/quote]
No new map, sort it between Guildies it's not hard. You have the free time to do YouTube vids, podcasts and be on the forums at 11 50 pm at night. Sort it with your members and I'll sort it with mine.
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[quote="DEATHNOTE"]No new map, sort it between Guildies it's not hard. You have the free time to do YouTube vids, podcasts and be on the forums at 11 50 pm at night. Sort it with your members and I'll sort it with mine.[/quote]
"DEATHNOTE"No new map, sort it between Guildies it's not hard. You have the free time to do YouTube vids, podcasts and be on the forums at 11 50 pm at night. Sort it with your members and I'll sort it with mine.


This still does not solve the issues, and still needs policing. The solution to these problems need to be automated as much as possible. So people can spend more time on more important things.
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[quote="SUBXERO"][quote="DEATHNOTE"]No new map, sort it between Guildies it's not hard. You have the free time to do YouTube vids, podcasts and be on the forums at 11 50 pm at night. Sort it with your members and I'll sort it with mine.[/quote] This still does not solve the issues, and still needs policing. The solution to these problems need to be automated as much as possible. So people can spend more time on more important things. [/quote]
ur tune will change whn ur capped
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[quote="BUU"]ur tune will change whn ur capped[/quote]
tbf to all players, and the gm support..this mass pking isnt a major problem now as it has been in the past.. cupid and sub have had more than their fair share for sure recently....but im sure that will cool down over time.
Acvx has a few... for merely helping at gvw ..the wrong guild !!

Just a more sensible attitude... from all players..1-2-3 pks mayb..dont take the piss just coz u can.
Cos some players help a different guild to you for the gvw ...dont go make ''them pay for it'' in mass pks...
Maybe give a 60 second cooldown inbetween each pk..so if someones is killed..... gives him time to revive, warp and get safe kinda thing, and he cant be repeatedly blasted by ppl with too much testosterone flowing.

Get rid of the kd on character screen on armoury... We all adults here... well... kind of... chill a bit and behave reasonably sensibly. Progression and continuation of Soma benefits us all..

If there was a 60 second cd period........... then if a player stands there and waits for the 2nd/3rd etc pk...... then he's asking for it and there's no way he can moan to gms..


A pve only map..will just result in the same ppl either on noobs or alts just come hitting ur mobs ..making a nuisance of themselves.. u cant hit them..... will make more work for gm's sorting out all the complaints
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]tbf to all players, and the gm support..this mass pking isnt a major problem now as it has been in the past.. cupid and sub have had more than their fair share for sure recently....but im sure that will cool down over time. Acvx has a few... for merely helping at gvw ..the wrong guild !! Just a more sensible attitude... from all players..1-2-3 pks mayb..dont take the piss just coz u can. Cos some players help a different guild to you for the gvw ...dont go make ''them pay for it'' in mass pks... Maybe give a 60 second cooldown inbetween each pk..so if someones is killed..... gives him time to revive, warp and get safe kinda thing, and he cant be repeatedly blasted by ppl with too much testosterone flowing. Get rid of the kd on character screen on armoury... We all adults here... well... kind of... chill a bit and behave reasonably sensibly. Progression and continuation of Soma benefits us all.. If there was a 60 second cd period........... then if a player stands there and waits for the 2nd/3rd etc pk...... then he's asking for it and there's no way he can moan to gms.. A pve only map..will just result in the same ppl either on noobs or alts just come hitting ur mobs ..making a nuisance of themselves.. u cant hit them..... will make more work for gm's sorting out all the complaints[/quote]
"LUPISCUS"tbf to all players, and the gm support..this mass pking isnt a major problem now as it has been in the past.. cupid and sub have had more than their fair share for sure recently....but im sure that will cool down over time.
Acvx has a few... for merely helping at gvw ..the wrong guild !!

Just a more sensible attitude... from all players..1-2-3 pks mayb..dont take the piss just coz u can.
Cos some players help a different guild to you for the gvw ...dont go make ''them pay for it'' in mass pks...
Maybe give a 60 second cooldown inbetween each pk..so if someones is killed..... gives him time to revive, warp and get safe kinda thing, and he cant be repeatedly blasted by ppl with too much testosterone flowing.

Get rid of the kd on character screen on armoury... We all adults here... well... kind of... chill a bit and behave reasonably sensibly. Progression and continuation of Soma benefits us all..

If there was a 60 second cd period........... then if a player stands there and waits for the 2nd/3rd etc pk...... then he's asking for it and there's no way he can moan to gms..


I would be in favour of a cooldown period. Something like 10 seconds pk off after pvp kill would be enough to give someone the option of warping etc and potentially reduce excessive killing. Could always scale up with deaths as well.
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[quote="SPELUNK"][quote="LUPISCUS"]tbf to all players, and the gm support..this mass pking isnt a major problem now as it has been in the past.. cupid and sub have had more than their fair share for sure recently....but im sure that will cool down over time. Acvx has a few... for merely helping at gvw ..the wrong guild !! Just a more sensible attitude... from all players..1-2-3 pks mayb..dont take the piss just coz u can. Cos some players help a different guild to you for the gvw ...dont go make ''them pay for it'' in mass pks... Maybe give a 60 second cooldown inbetween each pk..so if someones is killed..... gives him time to revive, warp and get safe kinda thing, and he cant be repeatedly blasted by ppl with too much testosterone flowing. Get rid of the kd on character screen on armoury... We all adults here... well... kind of... chill a bit and behave reasonably sensibly. Progression and continuation of Soma benefits us all.. If there was a 60 second cd period........... then if a player stands there and waits for the 2nd/3rd etc pk...... then he's asking for it and there's no way he can moan to gms.. [/quote] I would be in favour of a cooldown period. Something like 10 seconds pk off after pvp kill would be enough to give someone the option of warping etc and potentially reduce excessive killing. Could always scale up with deaths as well.[/quote]
For once lupi you talk sense :P

But either a pk limit per soma day or something along those lines would be good. As previously mentioned a little zone where there is no limit which serves as the ‘pk war’ area is all that’s needed.
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[quote="TYRESE"]For once lupi you talk sense :P But either a pk limit per soma day or something along those lines would be good. As previously mentioned a little zone where there is no limit which serves as the ‘pk war’ area is all that’s needed.[/quote]

 

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