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KAIDONE	i heard 20 above the monsters str/int is cap? anyone help please ;p PM Reply Quote [quote="KAIDONE"]i heard 20 above the monsters str/int is cap? anyone help please ;p[/quote]	#1 2014/01/28 17:35:39
_SEPHIROTH_	I thought it was 30..ish PM Reply Quote [quote="_SEPHIROTH_"]I thought it was 30..ish[/quote]	#2 2014/01/28 17:39:54
RAVER	think its 31 str above mobs, sure i see ghost post it some where PM Reply Quote [quote="RAVER"]think its 31 str above mobs, sure i see ghost post it some where[/quote]	#3 2014/01/28 17:42:25
GHOSTLORD	"RAVER"think its 31 str above mobs, sure i see ghost post it some where Correct, though I can't remember putting it somewhere. :P PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="RAVER"]think its 31 str above mobs, sure i see ghost post it some where[/quote] Correct, though I can't remember putting it somewhere. :P[/quote]	#4 2014/01/28 17:45:25
KAIDONE	does this apply too int also? PM Reply Quote [quote="KAIDONE"]does this apply too int also? [/quote]	#5 2014/01/28 17:47:27
I0_0I	"KAIDONE"does this apply too int also? I think caps work like this (And please correct me if I'm wrong or miss it). Once you hit the str cap on a mob you can not gain any stats from it. Str cap is calculated using database cell data, ((sstr2) + SAStr+ SWStr) /2 +31 So for the most part figure mob str on armory +31 = Cap Str I don't know about INT cap as I think ANY gains are based on ability to gain Str from a mob, However, as you approach the "INT cap" of a mob armory int + 31 I would expect gains to slow but not stop until Str cap is met. PM Reply Quote [quote="I0_0I"][quote="KAIDONE"]does this apply too int also? [/quote] I think caps work like this (And please correct me if I'm wrong or miss it). Once you hit the str cap on a mob you can not gain any stats from it. Str cap is calculated using database cell data, ((sstr2) + SAStr+ SWStr) /2 +31 So for the most part figure mob str on armory +31 = Cap Str I don't know about INT cap as I think ANY gains are based on ability to gain Str from a mob, However, as you approach the "INT cap" of a mob armory int + 31 I would expect gains to slow but not stop until Str cap is met.[/quote]	#6 2014/01/28 18:15:13
GHOSTLORD	"I0_0I" "KAIDONE"does this apply too int also? I don't know about INT cap as I think ANY gains are based on ability to gain Str from a mob, However, as you approach the "INT cap" of a mob armory int + 31 I would expect gains to slow but not stop until Str cap is met. Incorrect, INT gains are based off INT and the cap works the same, based on INT. It's +31 too. Since your a punch mage you might like to know that for DSoma punching is based on STR gains, And since the rest of your gains are based on your STR gains (though their all the same) you can still gain INT regardless of how high it is. PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="I0_0I"][quote="KAIDONE"]does this apply too int also? [/quote] I don't know about INT cap as I think ANY gains are based on ability to gain Str from a mob, However, as you approach the "INT cap" of a mob armory int + 31 I would expect gains to slow but not stop until Str cap is met.[/quote] Incorrect, INT gains are based off INT and the cap works the same, based on INT. It's +31 too. Since your a punch mage you might like to know that for DSoma punching is based on STR gains, And since the rest of your gains are based on your STR gains (though their all the same) you can still gain INT regardless of how high it is. [/quote]	#7 2014/01/28 18:35:45
I0_0I	Thanks Ghost ^ PM Reply Quote [quote="I0_0I"] Thanks Ghost ^[/quote]	#8 2014/01/28 20:34:09
BLACKHAT	Where do the slowdowns in gains occur? And the closer a chars STR gets to a mobs STR cap, do we still gain the same STR per xp from the mob? What I mean with that is, if I hit a mob once with a melee weapon and I receive for example 10XP and 10STR XP, but 10.0 STR later, even though str is slower in general, do i still gain 10xp and 10 str xp per hit? PM Reply Quote [quote="BLACKHAT"]Where do the slowdowns in gains occur? And the closer a chars STR gets to a mobs STR cap, do we still gain the same STR per xp from the mob? What I mean with that is, if I hit a mob once with a melee weapon and I receive for example 10XP and 10STR XP, but 10.0 STR later, even though str is slower in general, do i still gain 10xp and 10 str xp per hit? [/quote]	#9 2014/01/28 21:10:20
GHOSTLORD	"BLACKHAT"Where do the slowdowns in gains occur? And the closer a chars STR gets to a mobs STR cap, do we still gain the same STR per xp from the mob? What I mean with that is, if I hit a mob once with a melee weapon and I receive for example 10XP and 10STR XP, but 10.0 STR later, even though str is slower in general, do i still gain 10xp and 10 str xp per hit? Finito posted (either on this one or the old forum) that mobs give less stats if you are above their str or int and better if you are below their str or int. PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="BLACKHAT"]Where do the slowdowns in gains occur? And the closer a chars STR gets to a mobs STR cap, do we still gain the same STR per xp from the mob? What I mean with that is, if I hit a mob once with a melee weapon and I receive for example 10XP and 10STR XP, but 10.0 STR later, even though str is slower in general, do i still gain 10xp and 10 str xp per hit? [/quote] Finito posted (either on this one or the old forum) that mobs give less stats if you are above their str or int and better if you are below their str or int.[/quote]	#10 2014/01/28 21:16:55
BLACKHAT	"GHOSTLORD" "BLACKHAT"Where do the slowdowns in gains occur? And the closer a chars STR gets to a mobs STR cap, do we still gain the same STR per xp from the mob? What I mean with that is, if I hit a mob once with a melee weapon and I receive for example 10XP and 10STR XP, but 10.0 STR later, even though str is slower in general, do i still gain 10xp and 10 str xp per hit? Finito posted (either on this one or the old forum) that mobs give less stats if you are above their str or int and better if you are below their str or int. thanks PM Reply Quote [quote="BLACKHAT"][quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="BLACKHAT"]Where do the slowdowns in gains occur? And the closer a chars STR gets to a mobs STR cap, do we still gain the same STR per xp from the mob? What I mean with that is, if I hit a mob once with a melee weapon and I receive for example 10XP and 10STR XP, but 10.0 STR later, even though str is slower in general, do i still gain 10xp and 10 str xp per hit? [/quote] Finito posted (either on this one or the old forum) that mobs give less stats if you are above their str or int and better if you are below their str or int.[/quote] thanks[/quote]	#11 2014/01/29 07:20:12
BLACKHAT	Ghost, would you be able to find out by asking fin/isylver what % or ratio it is for STR gains before and after a mobs base STR? PM Reply Quote [quote="BLACKHAT"]Ghost, would you be able to find out by asking fin/isylver what % or ratio it is for STR gains before and after a mobs base STR?[/quote]	#12 2014/01/29 19:14:59
GHOSTLORD	"BLACKHAT"Ghost, would you be able to find out by asking fin/isylver what % or ratio it is for STR gains before and after a mobs base STR? I'm quite sure he'll read this buff if I remember I'll ask next time I speak to him. :P PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="BLACKHAT"]Ghost, would you be able to find out by asking fin/isylver what % or ratio it is for STR gains before and after a mobs base STR?[/quote] I'm quite sure he'll read this buff if I remember I'll ask next time I speak to him. :P[/quote]	#13 2014/01/29 19:49:58
JARAGOONDOO	"GHOSTLORD" "BLACKHAT"Where do the slowdowns in gains occur? And the closer a chars STR gets to a mobs STR cap, do we still gain the same STR per xp from the mob? What I mean with that is, if I hit a mob once with a melee weapon and I receive for example 10XP and 10STR XP, but 10.0 STR later, even though str is slower in general, do i still gain 10xp and 10 str xp per hit? Finito posted (either on this one or the old forum) that mobs give less stats if you are above their str or int and better if you are below their str or int. That definitely isn't the case. From my own testing, I've noticed you get the best gains when your STR is 30 or more below the monster you are hunting. Slow downs occur once you're within 30 (maybe 31) of their STR. An an example, if you are on 60 STR and you have a choice between hunting something with 85, 95 and 105 STR. The 85 STR monster will give you "bad" gains (difference of 25). The 95 and 105 will give you optimal gains (doesn't seem to be difference between the two, as long as your STR is below the "30-threshold"). This's just what I've noticed on DSoma. I'd imagine it'd be easier to test all the intricacies of this system on HSoma. PM Reply Quote [quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="BLACKHAT"]Where do the slowdowns in gains occur? And the closer a chars STR gets to a mobs STR cap, do we still gain the same STR per xp from the mob? What I mean with that is, if I hit a mob once with a melee weapon and I receive for example 10XP and 10STR XP, but 10.0 STR later, even though str is slower in general, do i still gain 10xp and 10 str xp per hit? [/quote] Finito posted (either on this one or the old forum) that mobs give less stats if you are above their str or int and better if you are below their str or int.[/quote] That definitely isn't the case. From my own testing, I've noticed you get the best gains when your STR is 30 or more below the monster you are hunting. Slow downs occur once you're within 30 (maybe 31) of their STR. An an example, if you are on 60 STR and you have a choice between hunting something with 85, 95 and 105 STR. The 85 STR monster will give you "bad" gains (difference of 25). The 95 and 105 will give you optimal gains (doesn't seem to be difference between the two, as long as your STR is below the "30-threshold"). This's just what I've noticed on DSoma. I'd imagine it'd be easier to test all the intricacies of this system on HSoma.[/quote]	#14 2014/02/02 15:17:18
GHOSTLORD	"JARAGOONDOO"... . Funnily enough I experienced the same when testing in on the test server, I never posted it hear since it was never confirmed. I would love to get some insight in this from Finito. PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]... .[/quote] Funnily enough I experienced the same when testing in on the test server, I never posted it hear since it was never confirmed. I would love to get some insight in this from Finito. [/quote]	#15 2014/02/02 16:24:37

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