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"TYROZET"The balance isn't just about balance of our attack to yours

Even if i could 1 hit every human, if there's 10 of us and 100 of you, we wouldn't even be able to get close enough to get a shot off which is how it will become if people continue to leave dsoma


Dsoma has always been lesser than hsoma in this server.
I remember about 2 years? Back
It was mainly just Lazarus playing. Before you played.
And no-one was complaining. The server will sort itself out. It always does. People will leave, people will return, and then there will still be RvR.
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[quote="SHAILO"][quote="TYROZET"]The balance isn't just about balance of our attack to yours Even if i could 1 hit every human, if there's 10 of us and 100 of you, we wouldn't even be able to get close enough to get a shot off which is how it will become if people continue to leave dsoma [/quote] Dsoma has always been lesser than hsoma in this server. I remember about 2 years? Back It was mainly just Lazarus playing. Before you played. And no-one was complaining. The server will sort itself out. It always does. People will leave, people will return, and then there will still be RvR. [/quote]
considering how toxic hsoma is most of the time, people will continue to get fed up of it and leave, just so happens at the moment that there is more benefits to playing hsoma then dsoma, dsoma is a second thought on the server the priority will always be hsoma, as shailo has said people will come back to dsoma eventually.
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[quote="ARYA_"]considering how toxic hsoma is most of the time, people will continue to get fed up of it and leave, just so happens at the moment that there is more benefits to playing hsoma then dsoma, dsoma is a second thought on the server the priority will always be hsoma, as shailo has said people will come back to dsoma eventually.[/quote]
Dsoma has had more time and effort put into it than hsoma has by a country mile. Purely because it was in a terrible state during the esoma days.

Can I suggest any improvements towards dsoma you have is directed towards ghostlord as he is in charge of the pipeline for dsoma.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]Dsoma has had more time and effort put into it than hsoma has by a country mile. Purely because it was in a terrible state during the esoma days. Can I suggest any improvements towards dsoma you have is directed towards ghostlord as he is in charge of the pipeline for dsoma. [/quote]
Agree it has had the most time spent on it, and from Esoma days has come along way. Thanks though Isylver, over the next few weeks will gather information from all the core dsoma players and forward it to Sir Ghost,
Regards
Sam
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[quote="SAM"]Agree it has had the most time spent on it, and from Esoma days has come along way. Thanks though Isylver, over the next few weeks will gather information from all the core dsoma players and forward it to Sir Ghost, Regards Sam[/quote]
Sounds like dsoma need a pvp stat spread and a separate tab with rvr stats (only for conti/t6)
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[quote="1355"]Sounds like dsoma need a pvp stat spread and a separate tab with rvr stats (only for conti/t6)[/quote]
I can understand why ppl give up before the end when all there doing is dieing

As a spear char I have one of the highest dmg ingame, but the biggest bonus on soma is range, fighting against human mages that all have range when iv only got 2 range means I'm in the middle of the human pack and get smashed

Last war was one of the closest in weeks, yet human magic dmg is insane, I could out pot abit, tho each time I died due to stone and then targeted by every human and the constant weakened, which is the result of me having to get up close to kill a human

Tho even with that my major gripe is pos level range

DEVULA gained 200 pos from JAHEIRA
YAGUDO gained 100 pos from JAHEIRA
JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from DEVULA
JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from CHEATAH
YAGUDO gained 100 pos from JAHEIRA
JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from CELTS
JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from THEMAT
YAGUDO gained 100 pos from JAHEIRA
JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from KNUCKLES
JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from SIR_RIKKI
QUIKSILVER gained 140 pos from JAHEIRA
JAHEIRA gained 80 pos from KARDASHIAN
JAHEIRA gained 100 pos from DEATHNOTE
JAHEIRA gained 60 pos from ALAKAZAM
JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from GANONPK
JAHEIRA gained 60 pos from ALAKAZAM
JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from STORMHAVEN
GANONPK gained 180 pos from JAHEIRA

So from my player feed for wotw I got 12 kills and 6 deaths, but -120 pos after the war

Now most ppl will say pos dosnt mean anything, however to alot of ppl it does, I take my pos as if it was a kill death count, I'm not big on pking but enjoy rvr



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[quote="JAHEIRA"]I can understand why ppl give up before the end when all there doing is dieing As a spear char I have one of the highest dmg ingame, but the biggest bonus on soma is range, fighting against human mages that all have range when iv only got 2 range means I'm in the middle of the human pack and get smashed Last war was one of the closest in weeks, yet human magic dmg is insane, I could out pot abit, tho each time I died due to stone and then targeted by every human and the constant weakened, which is the result of me having to get up close to kill a human Tho even with that my major gripe is pos level range DEVULA gained 200 pos from JAHEIRA YAGUDO gained 100 pos from JAHEIRA JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from DEVULA JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from CHEATAH YAGUDO gained 100 pos from JAHEIRA JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from CELTS JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from THEMAT YAGUDO gained 100 pos from JAHEIRA JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from KNUCKLES JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from SIR_RIKKI QUIKSILVER gained 140 pos from JAHEIRA JAHEIRA gained 80 pos from KARDASHIAN JAHEIRA gained 100 pos from DEATHNOTE JAHEIRA gained 60 pos from ALAKAZAM JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from GANONPK JAHEIRA gained 60 pos from ALAKAZAM JAHEIRA gained 50 pos from STORMHAVEN GANONPK gained 180 pos from JAHEIRA So from my player feed for wotw I got 12 kills and 6 deaths, but -120 pos after the war Now most ppl will say pos dosnt mean anything, however to alot of ppl it does, I take my pos as if it was a kill death count, I'm not big on pking but enjoy rvr [/quote]
One of main problem is that when you use armours and add into them physical/magical options, defence of these armours is not affected (like u can have intense bone armour + str/dex/proc/accu/eva etc).

On the other hand if you try to upgrade mdef equipment it will lose bonus of magic defence.

Maybe work on this that we can make intense Omni + pod//str/dex/wis/con etc. Literally so we need to work as a devils on gear anti human orientated.

I quit personally and log here and there to check if something is going into right direction :)

Greetings to Dan and crew, keep up the good work!
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[quote="ERDEKA"]One of main problem is that when you use armours and add into them physical/magical options, defence of these armours is not affected (like u can have intense bone armour + str/dex/proc/accu/eva etc). On the other hand if you try to upgrade mdef equipment it will lose bonus of magic defence. Maybe work on this that we can make intense Omni + pod//str/dex/wis/con etc. Literally so we need to work as a devils on gear anti human orientated. I quit personally and log here and there to check if something is going into right direction :) Greetings to Dan and crew, keep up the good work![/quote]
"TYROZET"I agree devil pvp is the best it's been for a while with no real OP class but each serving a purpose

But RvR gone out the window


This is more to do with the fact that loads of devils stopped playing and loads of humans started playing.

at the start of the war when humans where clearly on there devils i thought we had no chance as capped humans got 3/4 hit. By the end of the war those devils had jumped back onto humans for the win so the numbers where like 30 v 5.


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[quote="FUTURE"][quote="TYROZET"]I agree devil pvp is the best it's been for a while with no real OP class but each serving a purpose But RvR gone out the window [/quote] This is more to do with the fact that loads of devils stopped playing and loads of humans started playing. at the start of the war when humans where clearly on there devils i thought we had no chance as capped humans got 3/4 hit. By the end of the war those devils had jumped back onto humans for the win so the numbers where like 30 v 5. [/quote]
"ARYA_"considering how toxic hsoma is most of the time, people will continue to get fed up of it and leave, just so happens at the moment that there is more benefits to playing hsoma then dsoma, dsoma is a second thought on the server the priority will always be hsoma, as shailo has said people will come back to dsoma eventually.


Not sure what your talking about here but its the "toxic" nature of hsoma that causes ppl to play it. Hence why loads of devils are now playing hsoma... Toxicity breeds fun.
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[quote="FUTURE"][quote="ARYA_"]considering how toxic hsoma is most of the time, people will continue to get fed up of it and leave, just so happens at the moment that there is more benefits to playing hsoma then dsoma, dsoma is a second thought on the server the priority will always be hsoma, as shailo has said people will come back to dsoma eventually.[/quote] Not sure what your talking about here but its the "toxic" nature of hsoma that causes ppl to play it. Hence why loads of devils are now playing hsoma... Toxicity breeds fun.[/quote]
Can’t comment on wotw, but something is wrong when as a 195+ str human I can’t 1v1 or hold my own vs any devil that decides to move me off conti. The rare chance I do get at even killing one they just revive and go again.

An archer 2 hit +4th so about 1 second of damage has me at 1/4 hp.

The Korean chars are camping it pretty much 24/7 not including others that raid there. Utterly pointless even trying to fight.
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[quote="FLAWLESS"]Can’t comment on wotw, but something is wrong when as a 195+ str human I can’t 1v1 or hold my own vs any devil that decides to move me off conti. The rare chance I do get at even killing one they just revive and go again. An archer 2 hit +4th so about 1 second of damage has me at 1/4 hp. The Korean chars are camping it pretty much 24/7 not including others that raid there. Utterly pointless even trying to fight. [/quote]
I've only been playing hsoma a few months after 2 capped and 2 mid 90 devil chars I promised I'd never go human. I started human about 2weeks before patch, and wish I started a long time ago. I don't see any toxic bitterness at all. I hunt on my own I talk with a few at he start I used to get pkd by vk and dl but both thought I was apart of the other. After they noticed I wasn't I really haven't been hassled. Iv actually really enjoyed human side. Most are really happy to help and some stop what they're doing to go out their way to help me.
Why am I enjoying human side so much? I think it's seeing my gains go up and building my character the way I want, I can get some drops on the regular that have vaule on dsoma on a axe I went fromv 93-100 and got 2red pod ...

I know I'm off topic but my point is people are joining human side and rather keep conti cause they're enjoying human side more.
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[quote="DIOS"]I've only been playing hsoma a few months after 2 capped and 2 mid 90 devil chars I promised I'd never go human. I started human about 2weeks before patch, and wish I started a long time ago. I don't see any toxic bitterness at all. I hunt on my own I talk with a few at he start I used to get pkd by vk and dl but both thought I was apart of the other. After they noticed I wasn't I really haven't been hassled. Iv actually really enjoyed human side. Most are really happy to help and some stop what they're doing to go out their way to help me. Why am I enjoying human side so much? I think it's seeing my gains go up and building my character the way I want, I can get some drops on the regular that have vaule on dsoma on a axe I went fromv 93-100 and got 2red pod ... I know I'm off topic but my point is people are joining human side and rather keep conti cause they're enjoying human side more. [/quote]
I don't think you guys on dsoma realise how much damage you actually do. Even to capped str characters its ridiculous. At the moment with proper communication at wotw you'd absolutely destroy us even though you're outnumbered.
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[quote="THEMAT"]I don't think you guys on dsoma realise how much damage you actually do. Even to capped str characters its ridiculous. At the moment with proper communication at wotw you'd absolutely destroy us even though you're outnumbered.[/quote]
Future your dreaming there mate, there is more to accomplish on hsoma then dsoma these days that's why they have switched sides, people quit hsoma all the time because of the toxic bs
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[quote="ARYA_"]Future your dreaming there mate, there is more to accomplish on hsoma then dsoma these days that's why they have switched sides, people quit hsoma all the time because of the toxic bs[/quote]
"ARYA_"Future your dreaming there mate, there is more to accomplish on hsoma then dsoma these days that's why they have switched sides, people quit hsoma all the time because of the toxic bs


I think future is right here, I joined hsoma for the toxicity, the shit talking pking/pvp is what makes the game fun for many of us

Dsoma doesn't have near as much to do but the rivalry /toxicity with AP guild was keeping a few of us there, once they could no longer compete and left its time to find that fun on hsoma instead - and its not disappointing so far
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[quote="STONES"][quote="ARYA_"]Future your dreaming there mate, there is more to accomplish on hsoma then dsoma these days that's why they have switched sides, people quit hsoma all the time because of the toxic bs[/quote] I think future is right here, I joined hsoma for the toxicity, the shit talking pking/pvp is what makes the game fun for many of us Dsoma doesn't have near as much to do but the rivalry /toxicity with AP guild was keeping a few of us there, once they could no longer compete and left its time to find that fun on hsoma instead - and its not disappointing so far[/quote]
They only way to bring back balance to RvR is to cap human INT at a lower level then it is now, seen as humans can have 200 str and 200 int kinda hard to build a devil to match that.
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[quote="ARYA_"]They only way to bring back balance to RvR is to cap human INT at a lower level then it is now, seen as humans can have 200 str and 200 int kinda hard to build a devil to match that.[/quote]

 

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