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Did you really just ask why is balance fair?

My point is more aimed at devil soma anyway where the option to pick up different weapons isn't available. Totally agree with jah on ruby comment.
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[quote="SUPRA"]Did you really just ask why is balance fair? My point is more aimed at devil soma anyway where the option to pick up different weapons isn't available. Totally agree with jah on ruby comment.[/quote]
Nerf bow so it does next to no dmg at all.
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[quote="SAL3M"]Nerf bow so it does next to no dmg at all.[/quote]
"JACKELPUP"
"SUPRA".... because it's easily the best on human.


It isn't per se. Hardly anyone has gone dex without also taking account of other attributes.

"SUPRA"
... if it was balanced to be more equal it wouldn't detract from your experience it would enhance everyone else's.


"Balance" is a matter of opinion and, in any event, why is "balance" fair? It's a game of war. Last time "balance" was introduced all the weapons got buffed except bow and that certainly DID detract from my experience - instead of feeling all "warm and fuzzy" I felt exceptionally pissed off. I know for a fact some others did too.

Archers sacrifice strength in lieu of dex. They also sacrifice some decent auras that other weapons have. It is by no means one sided.

Jac





You are completely delusional.

Everyone other than you accepts that bow range causes PVP issues. Range, feathers.. and you never ever get hit?

I can't accept when people say "bow is fine" ... that just translates to me as "i don't actually want to fight" i just "want to have a guaranteed win" ... i think there should be a new TIER of weapons for EVERY WEAPON, and NO NEW BOWS!

At least Intelligence/Mages can be stopped by them being hit.
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[quote="ISELIX"][quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="SUPRA"].... because it's easily the best on human. [/quote] It isn't per se. Hardly anyone has gone dex without also taking account of other attributes. [quote="SUPRA"] ... if it was balanced to be more equal it wouldn't detract from your experience it would enhance everyone else's. [/quote] "Balance" is a matter of opinion and, in any event, why is "balance" fair? It's a game of war. Last time "balance" was introduced all the weapons got buffed except bow and that certainly DID detract from my experience - instead of feeling all "warm and fuzzy" I felt exceptionally pissed off. I know for a fact some others did too. Archers sacrifice strength in lieu of dex. They also sacrifice some decent auras that other weapons have. It is by no means one sided. Jac [/quote] You are completely delusional. Everyone other than you accepts that bow range causes PVP issues. Range, feathers.. and you never ever get hit? I can't accept when people say "bow is fine" ... that just translates to me as "i don't actually want to fight" i just "want to have a guaranteed win" ... i think there should be a new TIER of weapons for EVERY WEAPON, and NO NEW BOWS! At least Intelligence/Mages can be stopped by them being hit. [/quote]
"ISELIX"
Everyone other than you accepts that bow range causes PVP issues.


Everyone?

"ISELIX"
i think there should be a new TIER of weapons for EVERY WEAPON,


You effectively got that - all weapons (except bows) were buffed up.

Perhaps you would prefer anyone with a bow just quit so you can run around unimpeded with your superiority complex?

Jac

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[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="ISELIX"] Everyone other than you accepts that bow range causes PVP issues.[/quote] Everyone? [quote="ISELIX"] i think there should be a new TIER of weapons for EVERY WEAPON, [/quote] You effectively got that - all weapons (except bows) were buffed up. Perhaps you would prefer anyone with a bow just quit so you can run around unimpeded with your superiority complex? Jac [/quote]
maybe reduce accuracy / dmg from range at varying degree's would allow people to pvp from afar but do less dmg or come in closer to deal max damage
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[quote="FRINGE"]maybe reduce accuracy / dmg from range at varying degree's would allow people to pvp from afar but do less dmg or come in closer to deal max damage[/quote]
Higher lvls should start to reduce myth of bow, the higher the lvl the higher the possible dex. So we should start to see dex beasts Vs Pure tanks Vs pure Mages Vs Pure deeps. I believe Hsoma could take a step like dsoma where INT isnt MD as a 200/200 is slightly OP. A predominant Mage should have more MD than somebody who wants to hold an axe on stone imo. So a possible MD on staff scaling per lvl of staff is the only fix to that i can think of =D
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[quote="SAM"]Higher lvls should start to reduce myth of bow, the higher the lvl the higher the possible dex. So we should start to see dex beasts Vs Pure tanks Vs pure Mages Vs Pure deeps. I believe Hsoma could take a step like dsoma where INT isnt MD as a 200/200 is slightly OP. A predominant Mage should have more MD than somebody who wants to hold an axe on stone imo. So a possible MD on staff scaling per lvl of staff is the only fix to that i can think of =D[/quote]
Must say +1 to Iselix's idea of a new tier of weapons excluding bows.
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[quote="PAPAPILAS"]Must say +1 to Iselix's idea of a new tier of weapons excluding bows.[/quote]
Remove flinch from Bow only then it wont take 10 seconds to move 4 space to attack them, fast bows, high dex and flinch is just overkill ;o
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[quote="RAIG3XI"]Remove flinch from Bow only then it wont take 10 seconds to move 4 space to attack them, fast bows, high dex and flinch is just overkill ;o[/quote]
Jac, you have to see my point?!

Using a bow in combat... with 50 feathers... all you need to do is lock on target, hit and use aura.. the feather and repeat.

As a sword user, the above tactic means i never manage to close the distance to fight in open world pvp. It's not actually so much of a problem in GVW imo.

But, seriously... you got to see the point of the anti-bow brigade!

Range vs knux/spear/axe/bow is a massive advantage
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[quote="ISELIX"]Jac, you have to see my point?! Using a bow in combat... with 50 feathers... all you need to do is lock on target, hit and use aura.. the feather and repeat. As a sword user, the above tactic means i never manage to close the distance to fight in open world pvp. It's not actually so much of a problem in GVW imo. But, seriously... you got to see the point of the anti-bow brigade! Range vs knux/spear/axe/bow is a massive advantage[/quote]
"ISYLVER"I personally would like to see a new level cap increase in the summer. Let’s see how it all pans out.


lol isylver already on the ball :P
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[quote="BRADLEY_COLE"][quote="ISYLVER"]I personally would like to see a new level cap increase in the summer. Let’s see how it all pans out.[/quote] lol isylver already on the ball :P[/quote]
SUPRA

Personally think archers should have their Dex reduced by a chunk they already have range. At least a knuckle user needs the Dex fighting toe to toe taking hits seems archers get double the love with range and big Dex. Just my thoughts sorry to highjack!




Been said before - but archers should loose attack power and accuracy as range increases; as too should mages - might be good if mages missed occasionally too...........
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[quote="MICKYC"][quote=]SUPRA Personally think archers should have their Dex reduced by a chunk they already have range. At least a knuckle user needs the Dex fighting toe to toe taking hits seems archers get double the love with range and big Dex. Just my thoughts sorry to highjack! [/quote] Been said before - but archers should loose attack power and accuracy as range increases; as too should mages - might be good if mages missed occasionally too...........[/quote]
Definitely should buff other weaps, make people actually think about changing. I know that banana sword was a joke but imagine a nice attack sword with 200 skill req. Only problem is people would just use bow and sword unless u make stinger over. 150 skill. People would actually start pvping properly in close range and would bring sword users back to life like the old days.
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[quote="CYROX"]Definitely should buff other weaps, make people actually think about changing. I know that banana sword was a joke but imagine a nice attack sword with 200 skill req. Only problem is people would just use bow and sword unless u make stinger over. 150 skill. People would actually start pvping properly in close range and would bring sword users back to life like the old days. [/quote]
Reduce bow range to 4 or 5?
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[quote="QXJIANG"]Reduce bow range to 4 or 5?[/quote]
range of archer isnt really an issue. its the damage dealt over distance. with near 100% hit rate plus flinching of characters being hit so they are barely able to move while being hit
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[quote="FRINGE"]range of archer isnt really an issue. its the damage dealt over distance. with near 100% hit rate plus flinching of characters being hit so they are barely able to move while being hit[/quote]
"MICKYC"
SUPRA

Personally think archers should have their Dex reduced by a chunk they already have range. At least a knuckle user needs the Dex fighting toe to toe taking hits seems archers get double the love with range and big Dex. Just my thoughts sorry to highjack!




Been said before - but archers should loose attack power and accuracy as range increases; as too should mages - might be good if mages missed occasionally too...........


Not bad idea, but than mages attack shout stop being interruptable, and let it be more wish opponent got, than less probably we will hit spell. (Same as dex works for physical damage)
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[quote="SANARAR"][quote="MICKYC"][quote=]SUPRA Personally think archers should have their Dex reduced by a chunk they already have range. At least a knuckle user needs the Dex fighting toe to toe taking hits seems archers get double the love with range and big Dex. Just my thoughts sorry to highjack! [/quote] Been said before - but archers should loose attack power and accuracy as range increases; as too should mages - might be good if mages missed occasionally too...........[/quote] Not bad idea, but than mages attack shout stop being interruptable, and let it be more wish opponent got, than less probably we will hit spell. (Same as dex works for physical damage)[/quote]

 

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