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Hsoma GVW 22/04/18

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"KAJOKEN"Lol lin pk is a part of game


Pk is grieffing isn't so don't try to be mr nice now
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[quote="LINNYI"][quote="KAJOKEN"]Lol lin pk is a part of game [/quote] Pk is grieffing isn't so don't try to be mr nice now[/quote]
The logic here is fatally flawed.

Mistress DO hit DL, infact the first fight in the video is Diablo vs Demon.

Espada DONT hit NM VK. (alliance??????) < Joke, but... seriously

Anyway it's immaterial, even IF Mistress were helping DL, which we weren't, it has been said many many many times from members of NM/VK on this forum and in podcasts that they DO NOT PK guilds who fight against them at GVW. So its irrelevant is it not?

Yagudo you're own highlighted time frame in the video as proof of Mistress helping DL shows nothing, if we helping DL surely we would have targeted Kajo when DL were? But they (mistress) didn't, they were as you pointed out, stood doing nothing.

What is Mistress supposed to do? If we hit NM or DL we get pked. So we don't, we hit Espada. And then get accused of what we were avoiding doing anyway.

So then what, we don't show for GVW? Then you moan no one is there.

The result? Kajo (self proclaimed #1 PvPer who announces his arrival on the server with "Your God is here") calling for a PK war with a relatively low level guild comprising of casual, non PvP orientated, social players. Are you really going to get behind this NM?, because it really doesn't look great.
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[quote="MONTEL"]The logic here is fatally flawed. Mistress DO hit DL, infact the first fight in the video is Diablo vs Demon. Espada DONT hit NM VK. (alliance??????) < Joke, but... seriously Anyway it's immaterial, even IF Mistress were helping DL, which we weren't, it has been said many many many times from members of NM/VK on this forum and in podcasts that they DO NOT PK guilds who fight against them at GVW. So its irrelevant is it not? Yagudo you're own highlighted time frame in the video as proof of Mistress helping DL shows nothing, if we helping DL surely we would have targeted Kajo when DL were? But they (mistress) didn't, they were as you pointed out, stood doing nothing. What is Mistress supposed to do? If we hit NM or DL we get pked. So we don't, we hit Espada. And then get accused of what we were avoiding doing anyway. So then what, we don't show for GVW? Then you moan no one is there. The result? Kajo (self proclaimed #1 PvPer who announces his arrival on the server with "Your God is here") calling for a PK war with a relatively low level guild comprising of casual, non PvP orientated, social players. Are you really going to get behind this NM?, because it really doesn't look great.[/quote]
Mont i can play on my own and pk everyone :) i dnt care if i kill but worth a try :)
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[quote="KAJOKEN"]Mont i can play on my own and pk everyone :) i dnt care if i kill but worth a try :)[/quote]
poor excuses for a shit guild like no_mercy
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[quote="MINGEPIECE"]poor excuses for a shit guild like no_mercy[/quote]
Minge go on dsoma discuss and close your mouth this is not devil discussion
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[quote="KAJOKEN"]Minge go on dsoma discuss and close your mouth this is not devil discussion [/quote]
"ITEMSES"I think that alliances are overrated, not even VK and NM could destroy the mighty DL!


What about the mighty titans?? :O
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[quote="YAGUDO"][quote="ITEMSES"]I think that alliances are overrated, not even VK and NM could destroy the mighty DL![/quote] What about the mighty titans?? :O [/quote]
"HADOU"
"YAGUDO"

With these numbers does any guild really need alliances play free for all??



Its annoying when guilds don't free for all. Bit like when DL had 6 members and NM and BK refused to fight each other which meant DL didn't have a chance at a lucky win.


Agree with you hadou however DL and titans always been allies just like NM amd VK... but im going on about other guilds like mistress..

They clearly ready to get involved with this rivalry that we have going ingame and choose a side but are not ready to play outside the war... everyone knows this game dosent work like that.... unless your espada who have played it well not to get involved in bullshit so they not involved outside the war!!

Havent even mentioned how many chars gleesh hit and rin well that speaks for its self that "alliance"

Lins post clearly confirms this.. shame really but its one of those "is what it is"
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[quote="YAGUDO"][quote="HADOU"][quote="YAGUDO"] With these numbers does any guild really need alliances play free for all?? [/quote] Its annoying when guilds don't free for all. Bit like when DL had 6 members and NM and BK refused to fight each other which meant DL didn't have a chance at a lucky win.[/quote] Agree with you hadou however DL and titans always been allies just like NM amd VK... but im going on about other guilds like mistress.. They clearly ready to get involved with this rivalry that we have going ingame and choose a side but are not ready to play outside the war... everyone knows this game dosent work like that.... unless your espada who have played it well not to get involved in bullshit so they not involved outside the war!! Havent even mentioned how many chars gleesh hit and rin well that speaks for its self that "alliance" Lins post clearly confirms this.. shame really but its one of those "is what it is" [/quote]
There is no alliance with Mistress and DL - people need to get a grip.

Linny has gone out of her way to set up a guild that is non-aligned and has fought vigorously to keep it that way in the face of tremendous abuse.

For the record ....

Rin only just joined Mistress and may well have some allegiance to DL - it does not reflect Mistress members.

Montel does have a dialogue with some DL players but, from what I have seen (as Jackelpup in DL) he has never "allied" at GVW nor ever said so in Mistress guild chat.

I have Jac (DL) and Prowler (Mistress) but attend GVW as Jac and fight for a DL win.

That's it.

There is nothing sinister and no conspiracy theories.

Jac/Prowler
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]There is no alliance with Mistress and DL - people need to get a grip. Linny has gone out of her way to set up a guild that is non-aligned and has fought vigorously to keep it that way in the face of tremendous abuse. For the record .... Rin only just joined Mistress and may well have some allegiance to DL - it does not reflect Mistress members. Montel does have a dialogue with some DL players but, from what I have seen (as Jackelpup in DL) he has never "allied" at GVW nor ever said so in Mistress guild chat. I have Jac (DL) and Prowler (Mistress) but attend GVW as Jac and fight for a DL win. That's it. There is nothing sinister and no conspiracy theories. Jac/Prowler[/quote]
VK are definitely biting off more they can chew. As if you weren't getting dominated enough as it is, you're picking a fight with another guild which is neutral because you lost another GVW you clearly had no chance of winning.
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[quote="BENZYL"]VK are definitely biting off more they can chew. As if you weren't getting dominated enough as it is, you're picking a fight with another guild which is neutral because you lost another GVW you clearly had no chance of winning.[/quote]
"YAGUDO"unless your espada who have played it well not to get involved in bullshit so they not involved outside the war!!



Lets say it like it is mate, balls out of the bath .... Espada would be in the position Mistress were in now if they weren't as strong as they are. But you'll look like proper big men on the feed. You're continued unwillingness to see that Espada hit NM even less than Mistress hit DL and thus implies even more so that actually you accusation is completely the other way round is further proof of this.

largely ignoring the actions of Rin, who was only in the guild for 1 hour:

@0:50 Mistress on DL
@1minute Espada on DL
@1minute MIstress on Espada
@1:36 Espada on Mistress
@1:49 Espada on DL
@2:00 Mistress on Espada (espada still hitting me)
@2:25 Espada on DL
@2:40 Mistress on Espada
@2:42 Thunder (NM) on Mistress
@2:50 Thunder on Mistress


On the basis Espada do not attack No Mercy even once, they must be allied to No Mercy (by your logic at least)
On the basis Mistress only attack Espada and DL until Thunder attacks Mistress, at which point they attack Thunder as well, we can conclude there is 0 evidence in this video for any kind of alliance. In fact all it shows is Espada helping YOU.
I'm not accusing Espada here of being in an Alliance with NM, what I'm saying is that your argument for Mistress being in an alliance with DL is completely fallacious.

So hang up your bone boots, put down your stinger bow and you know the rest.

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[quote="MONTEL"][quote="YAGUDO"]unless your espada who have played it well not to get involved in bullshit so they not involved outside the war!! [/quote] Lets say it like it is mate, balls out of the bath .... Espada would be in the position Mistress were in now if they weren't as strong as they are. But you'll look like proper big men on the feed. You're continued unwillingness to see that Espada hit NM even less than Mistress hit DL and thus implies even more so that actually you accusation is completely the other way round is further proof of this. largely ignoring the actions of Rin, who was only in the guild for 1 hour: @0:50 Mistress on DL @1minute Espada on DL @1minute MIstress on Espada @1:36 Espada on Mistress @1:49 Espada on DL @2:00 Mistress on Espada (espada still hitting me) @2:25 Espada on DL @2:40 Mistress on Espada @2:42 Thunder (NM) on Mistress @2:50 Thunder on Mistress On the basis Espada do not attack No Mercy even once, they must be allied to No Mercy (by your logic at least) On the basis Mistress only attack Espada and DL until Thunder attacks Mistress, at which point they attack Thunder as well, we can conclude there is 0 evidence in this video for any kind of alliance. In fact all it shows is Espada helping YOU. I'm not accusing Espada here of being in an Alliance with NM, what I'm saying is that your argument for Mistress being in an alliance with DL is completely fallacious. So hang up your bone boots, put down your stinger bow and you know the rest. [/quote]
Gotta say even though I don't play anymore I still thoroughly enjoy reading the forums, game has always been like this alliances are never a problem when you're in one but when your alliance falls off they're then a problem (:
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Gotta say even though I don't play anymore I still thoroughly enjoy reading the forums, game has always been like this alliances are never a problem when you're in one but when your alliance falls off they're then a problem (:[/quote]


So hang up your bone boots, put down your stinger bow and you know the rest.



lol

Fair play on the points you have mentioned, your points are valid and true... not sure how many GVs you been to or played but are you aware that Espada only attack guild on stone??

Just say it how it is rather then play games, you get your reaction!

Doesn't help GV is recorded or you could have pulled it off...




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[quote="YAGUDO"][/quote] So hang up your bone boots, put down your stinger bow and you know the rest. [/quote] lol Fair play on the points you have mentioned, your points are valid and true... not sure how many GVs you been to or played but are you aware that Espada only attack guild on stone?? Just say it how it is rather then play games, you get your reaction! Doesn't help GV is recorded or you could have pulled it off... [/quote]
Aye it records us fighting Espada.

We are not hitting NM or DL. Only thunder after they killed me 4 times I hit them back
But because we are not hitting DL we must be ally.
But we are not hitting NM either, so must be ally of NM as well ?

Everyone knows if u hit NM in gvw you get pked outside of it, even though you say you don’t, the feed will attest to the fact that you do even like in this case.... we didn’t even hit NM ... but purely on the basis that we didn’t hit DL is enough for the Pks to start occurring.

You’re argument is still completely invalid.
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[quote="MONTEL"]Aye it records us fighting Espada. We are not hitting NM or DL. Only thunder after they killed me 4 times I hit them back But because we are not hitting DL we must be ally. But we are not hitting NM either, so must be ally of NM as well ? Everyone knows if u hit NM in gvw you get pked outside of it, even though you say you don’t, the feed will attest to the fact that you do even like in this case.... we didn’t even hit NM ... but purely on the basis that we didn’t hit DL is enough for the Pks to start occurring. You’re argument is still completely invalid.[/quote]
In fact it’s so invalid it’s obsurd and I think you must be trolling me :D
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[quote="MONTEL"]In fact it’s so invalid it’s obsurd and I think you must be trolling me :D[/quote]
Speaking personally(not for Espada) - I think we just go for the stone, no questions asked, in fact we don't even talk about who is on the stone, lol.

I've never heard a guildee or Kurenai say "Go for DL" or "Leave VK", we're very much indifferent to everyone there. And if Lin reads this, two GVW's ago, when you said "I don't know who im hitting", it was me :P


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[quote="FOXTRCK"]Speaking personally(not for Espada) - I think we just go for the stone, no questions asked, in fact we don't even talk about who is on the stone, lol. I've never heard a guildee or Kurenai say "Go for DL" or "Leave VK", we're very much indifferent to everyone there. And if Lin reads this, two GVW's ago, when you said "I don't know who im hitting", it was me :P [/quote]

 

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