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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]This is very numbers heavy, so wouldn't recommend reading if you don't like numbers! I've worked out the average success and cost for red bean cakes as I thought they where stupidly expensive! [b]Rice per run[/b] 634 meat - 317 attempts = 258 success This gives - 1300 rice per run [b]Costs[/b] 6340 bar per run/1300 rice 30 (Runs) x 258 (jerkies per run) = 7,740 total jerkies (Total jerkies) 7,740 x 5 (rice per extract) = 39,000 rice [b]Cost per 39k rice[/b] 20k bar to make 39k rice [b]Number of meat per 39k rice[/b] (Meat per run) 634 x 30 (Number of runs to make 39k rice) = 19k [b]Rice cakes per run[/b] 220 rice & 440 wheat flour = 170 rice cakes (8800 cost) This gives - 170 rice cakes per run [b]Costs[/b] 440 x 20 (Wheat flour) 8,800 per run 39,000 (Total rice) / 220 (Rice per run) = 177 runs to use up rice 177 (Total runs) x 170 (Average success rate per run) = 30k rice cakes [b]Cost per 30k rice cakes[/b] 177 (Total runs) x 8,800 (bar per run) = 1.56 mill [b]Red beans per run[/b] 633 meat - 211 attempts = 165 success This gives - 660 red beans per run [b]Costs[/b] 6,330 bar per run [b]Total runs needed to make 31k red beans[/b] 31,000 (Total number of red beans required) / 660 (Red beans per run) = 47 47 (Runs) x 6330 = 300k [b]Number of meat per 31k red beans[/b] (Meat per run) 633 x 47 (Number of runs) = 30k meat [b]Red mung bean cakes per run [/b] 311 red beans 311 rice cakes 311 attempts per run = 255 success 31,000 (Total amount of rice cakes and red beans) / 311 (Attempts per run) = 100 (Total runs) 100 x 255 = 25,500 red mung bean rice cakes [b]Successes[/b] Total Meat = 50k Rice 7,740 success Rice cakes 31,500 success Red beans (Meat piles) 7,750 Red bean mung cake 25,500 [b]Total successes[/b] 72,500 [b]Total cost[/b] 1,900,000 bar For those that have got this far, 1,900,000 / 25,000 (Total rice cakes) = 76 apc per rice cake +25's are 38 apc, so you're paying double the price and get 15 extra MP at 1/2 the weight This is the lower boundary for what you'll get for your bar at around 80 skill when I started. Started on 80 skill now on over 100 just finishing my first 23k red bean rice cakes. If anyone see's a flaw in my calculations please tell me -_-[/quote]

[quote="MATTHEW"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"]This is very numbers heavy, so wouldn't recommend reading if you don't like numbers! I've worked out the average success and cost for red bean cakes as I thought they where stupidly expensive! [b]Rice cakes per run[/b] 210 rice & 440 wheat flour = 170 rice cakes (8800 cost) This gives - 170 rice cakes per run [b]Costs[/b] 440 x 20 (Wheat flour) 8,800 per run 39,000 (Total rice) / 210 (Rice per run) = 186 runs to use up rice 186 (Total runs) x 170 (Average success rate per run) = 31k rice cakes [b]Cost per 31k rice cakes[/b]186 (Total runs) x 8,800 (bar per run) = 1.64 mill If anyone see's a flaw in my calculations please tell me -_-[/quote] Where it says 210 rice, it should be 220. So the rest of the calculations that use the numbers from this calculation are also wrong. Its not far off though i'm sure ;p [/quote]

[quote="POOPANTS"]I concur[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]Updated np[/quote]

[quote="IMCON"]Looks about right. The only reason I make them at all is that I want the cooking skill anyway. Shame they're not more useful, really. Also, any time saved is completely eclipsed by the time involved in making the things. >.<[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="IMCON"]Looks about right. The only reason I make them at all is that I want the cooking skill anyway. Shame they're not more useful, really. Also, any time saved is completely eclipsed by the time involved in making the things. >.<[/quote] Yeah but the time spent extracting, you'd spend buying meat, also you never have to wait for restock with all the materials you get from extract so kinda works out well ^^[/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]+1 to whole thread. Helped a crafting retard like myself get some skills. Saved a mil+ on mp pots.[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]np[/quote]

[quote="MICKYC"]as a complete noob for cooking - is there a recognised strategy for skilling up cooking most efficiently plz?[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]2 Meat per try, the only way :D[/quote]