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So we can agree or disagree that certain weapons have distinct advantages and disadvantages...

But what about the fact that shield users effectively gain a extra +5 or even up to +8 upgrades they can use. We can say its a choice of playstyle but that's quite an advantage. Ok sure a 1 handed weapon doesn't have nearly the attack a 2 handed does so it may seem like it equals itself out

Suppose I don't have a suggestion other than upping 2 handed weapons somewhat or maybe increasing the range of values a 2 handed can be improved on?
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]So we can agree or disagree that certain weapons have distinct advantages and disadvantages... But what about the fact that shield users effectively gain a extra +5 or even up to +8 upgrades they can use. We can say its a choice of playstyle but that's quite an advantage. Ok sure a 1 handed weapon doesn't have nearly the attack a 2 handed does so it may seem like it equals itself out Suppose I don't have a suggestion other than upping 2 handed weapons somewhat or maybe increasing the range of values a 2 handed can be improved on?[/quote]
Take for example a top att BWA vs a top att Pike. They are both very similar in attack values, but with the axe you get a faster starting speed along with the addition of bulwark sheild too boost it. Whereas spear is slightly slower but with a handy aura which boosts att every 8 seconds in effect giving you an extra hit. Therefore kinda equally things out.

Personally I think these are fine as they are because you obviously sacrifice one thing to gain another.

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[quote="TYRESE"]Take for example a top att BWA vs a top att Pike. They are both very similar in attack values, but with the axe you get a faster starting speed along with the addition of bulwark sheild too boost it. Whereas spear is slightly slower but with a handy aura which boosts att every 8 seconds in effect giving you an extra hit. Therefore kinda equally things out. Personally I think these are fine as they are because you obviously sacrifice one thing to gain another. [/quote]
I dunno Tyrese. I mean, if you take advantages versus disadvantages, that makes BWA far nicer to play with in my opinion.

Its way too late in Somas lifespan to address this but...

BWA

+Faster initial speed than Pike
+Similar attack to Pike (high end)
+Shield (11-11 DF on intense Tower) + STR if Felforged + Shield can be upgraded to +5 or even +8
+Can combo PD with another aura

-Doesn't have an extra attack every 8 seconds with +5 power

Pike

+ 2nd attack every 8 seconds as a guaranteed hit

-Doesn't have shield option as a slot to upgrade with or to mitigate damage

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Didn't really want to make this about spear but it is a polar example I suppose. Knuckle has the same problem, I wont talk about bow for obvious reasons ;p
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]I dunno Tyrese. I mean, if you take advantages versus disadvantages, that makes BWA far nicer to play with in my opinion. Its way too late in Somas lifespan to address this but... BWA +Faster initial speed than Pike +Similar attack to Pike (high end) +Shield (11-11 DF on intense Tower) + STR if Felforged + Shield can be upgraded to +5 or even +8 +Can combo PD with another aura -Doesn't have an extra attack every 8 seconds with +5 power Pike + 2nd attack every 8 seconds as a guaranteed hit -Doesn't have shield option as a slot to upgrade with or to mitigate damage - Didn't really want to make this about spear but it is a polar example I suppose. Knuckle has the same problem, I wont talk about bow for obvious reasons ;p [/quote]
This is easily sorted introduce a item to go into this slot with no def on it just for upgrading.
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[quote="DIOS"]This is easily sorted introduce a item to go into this slot with no def on it just for upgrading. [/quote]
Can mirrow this on devil spear

Currently just feel like a axer with no spd up, perfect defense and stone

My 2nd aura just dosnt do enough with my current hit rate

Tho I spose with the addiction of 2 auras being used at the same time and spears auras all being attack aura but the 1st aura hasn't help spear as much as every other class (sword probly in same boat as 2nd hp regain just dosnt do enough)


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[quote="JAHEIRA"]Can mirrow this on devil spear Currently just feel like a axer with no spd up, perfect defense and stone My 2nd aura just dosnt do enough with my current hit rate Tho I spose with the addiction of 2 auras being used at the same time and spears auras all being attack aura but the 1st aura hasn't help spear as much as every other class (sword probly in same boat as 2nd hp regain just dosnt do enough) [/quote]
spear is supposed to have a higher minimum attack but around the same max att as 2 handed axe. 1 handed wep should now have as high attack.
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[quote="FRINGE"]spear is supposed to have a higher minimum attack but around the same max att as 2 handed axe. 1 handed wep should now have as high attack.[/quote]
poor bow users they lack defense can we pls change it so we can use shield pls?? axe is soo damn OP :(
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[quote="MANTICORE"]poor bow users they lack defense can we pls change it so we can use shield pls?? axe is soo damn OP :([/quote]
Anyway - your right in that respect fringe. Unless the gms gave up on that fact and was funnelling people down a all axe preference route on hsoma for strength.

I still don’t see how a shield which has 11-24 df or more plus str can be consider to keep one handed weapons in balance. Either 1 handed weapons are over powered or shields are too powerful.

Otherwise we may as well call spear a utility weapon and not a viable class compared to others?
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]Anyway - your right in that respect fringe. Unless the gms gave up on that fact and was funnelling people down a all axe preference route on hsoma for strength. I still don’t see how a shield which has 11-24 df or more plus str can be consider to keep one handed weapons in balance. Either 1 handed weapons are over powered or shields are too powerful. Otherwise we may as well call spear a utility weapon and not a viable class compared to others?[/quote]

 

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